Xbox Series S Page 18

  • Malek86 2 Jan 2021 19:16:13 12,331 posts
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    Mmh, I thought all Xbox One games would get anisotropic filtering? I started Eastshade and it looks very much like simple bilinear.

    I wonder if maybe anisotropic doesn't work if the game isn't at least using trilinear...
  • richarddavies 2 Jan 2021 19:18:29 8,312 posts
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    FUCK BILINEAR!! IT CAN SUCK A BAG OF DICKS AND ITS TWAT MATE TRILINEAR. ANISOTROPIC ALL THE WAY!!
  • Malek86 2 Jan 2021 19:51:14 12,331 posts
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    That's what all Nintendo 64 fanboys say

    Edited by Malek86 at 19:51:19 02-01-2021
  • Deleted user 2 January 2021 20:26:25
    What a lovely little console
  • nickthegun 2 Jan 2021 20:35:20 87,711 posts
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    I think it's great. My only problems with it are, seemingly, generic Xbox problems. The UI is a disaster, they have removed remote play to PC for some reason and the headsets use a proprietary connection method which is just idiotic.

    The console itself is cool, though. I'm going to get a lot of value out of it, I think

    Edited by nickthegun at 20:35:37 02-01-2021
  • mothercruncher 2 Jan 2021 21:21:25 19,474 posts
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    Yep, love mine. It’s neat, inoffensive and just sits there looking chipper in the bedroom. And, yes, Microsoft still couldn’t do a decent interface if their lives depended on it, I half expect to need to right click on a little grey dialogue box, twat about with 37 confusing options and hit “apply”.

    Hot little fucker though- even in standby it’s constantly hot. Thinking of turning off the standby download options, but that feels a bit self defeating.
  • Deleted user 2 January 2021 21:44:32
    @nickthegun remote play is working for me?
  • nickthegun 2 Jan 2021 21:48:56 87,711 posts
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    Is it? The win10 Xbox companion app only sees it as an Xbox one and won't connect to it, giving me a 'game streaming is not enabled' error even though it is. Google seems to suggest this feature is not available on the series series.

    Works on my phone, though because, obviously it would work on an apple device and not a Microsoft one.
  • mikew1985 2 Jan 2021 21:55:15 15,598 posts
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    Phone works, pc doesn't unless you download a test streaming app but i have a slight suspicion that app is not using the local network and instead going over the Internet.
  • Deleted user 4 January 2021 18:27:50
    nickthegun wrote:
    Is it? The win10 Xbox companion app only sees it as an Xbox one and won't connect to it, giving me a 'game streaming is not enabled' error even though it is. Google seems to suggest this feature is not available on the series series.

    Works on my phone, though because, obviously it would work on an apple device and not a Microsoft one.
    I’m using an iPad Air 3 and an xr and both work. Router issue?
  • nickthegun 4 Jan 2021 18:37:17 87,711 posts
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    Nah, it literally doesn’t work on the PC.
  • Your-Mother 4 Jan 2021 18:44:26 8,172 posts
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    Yep. Taken out of Series S/X for some reason.

    https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/apps-help/how-to-use-game-streaming-in-xbox-console-companion-app
  • Technoishmatt 4 Jan 2021 19:01:55 5,365 posts
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    Like wtf! That is bone headed. I want local streaming as alternative to cloud...
  • Technoishmatt 4 Jan 2021 19:02:21 5,365 posts
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    Can you run the android app through some kind of shell on PC?
  • nickthegun 4 Jan 2021 20:02:01 87,711 posts
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    I have a very vague rule of thumb that I won’t make a company’s product work for them anymore. I believe there is some kind of beta streaming app (maybe the one mentioned above) on the Spanish MS App store but I would rather complain about it than fanny around with workarounds.
  • mikew1985 5 Jan 2021 09:05:38 15,598 posts
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    The one I mentioned appears to be a test app for developers. It does work but it is yet another xbox app and like you said nick there's a small amount of faffing to get it to work.

    I really don't know how they have such a fucked up xbox app ecosystem. There is the console companion, the Xbox app, the game pass app, the have beta versions of all those apps too. This is yet another one on top of all those.
    It's so unnecessarily complicated.

    Edited by mikew1985 at 09:06:25 05-01-2021
  • hillbilly66 16 Jun 2021 11:09:43 3,502 posts
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    Just ordered mine. I'm wondering how scalable hardware will work when some Series X software is aiming for 1080p in order to prioritise framerate. Where does that leave the Series S. 30fps I guess.
  • Britesparc 16 Jun 2021 11:48:00 2,342 posts
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    Which games are targeting 1080p on Series X? Do you mean for 120hz modes?

    I'm hoping most games on the Series S will run 1080p/60 but I'm not sure how 120hz modes will work going forward.
  • hillbilly66 16 Jun 2021 12:05:52 3,502 posts
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    I was gooogling for patch updates and found this, which has a fair few games that the fps boost feature only supports Series X not S. Although it's speculation on my part I guess.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-fps-boost
  • Malek86 16 Jun 2021 12:10:07 12,331 posts
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    Some Series games already only support 120fps on the X, so that's likely to continue.

    For the most part I expect it to still run games at 60fps, maybe dropping to 900p as the engines get more demanding.
  • hillbilly66 16 Jun 2021 12:27:57 3,502 posts
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    The witcher is 30fps on S and 4k 60fps on the X. Although with that said there is a next gen patch being developed so that may well change.
  • JamboWayOh 16 Jun 2021 13:21:50 25,236 posts
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    Malek86 wrote:
    Some Series games already only support 120fps on the X, so that's likely to continue.

    For the most part I expect it to still run games at 60fps, maybe dropping to 900p as the engines get more demanding.
    Things like resolution probably won't matter as much when thry bring out their AI upscaling solution which they are definitely working on.
  • Deleted user 16 June 2021 13:23:19
    @hillbilly66 is that a recent change? I played Witcher 3 recently on the XSX and it was 4k 30fps or 1080p 60fps only (performance or graphic settings). Looking forward to the next gen patch, I left the DLC until that's out so will be cool to see what's changed.
  • Sharz 16 Jun 2021 13:32:25 2,121 posts
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    @andytheadequate

    If you enable performance mode on the Series X it actually uses unlocked framerate (to 60) and scalable dynamic resolution. As it was tuned for Xbox one X you get different experience on the series X that results in 4k 60fps, while the actual quality/graphic mode is locked 4k 30fps.

    Edited by Sharz at 13:36:19 16-06-2021
  • hillbilly66 16 Jun 2021 14:11:57 3,502 posts
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    Oh okay. That sounds like a situation made convenient by the existing version more than a power issue with the S. Hopefully anyway
  • Kay 21 Jun 2021 18:19:53 21,321 posts
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    Anybody using a Series S on a 4k TV and happy with the purchase? I bought one yesterday, but now considering returning it and waiting for an X instead - I figured if I'm going to play Game Pass stuff on it, I'd prefer to have all the bells and whistles. But the X seems like overkill, and I don't even have a 4k TV right now anyway (will probably get one towards the end of the year).

    Also, the only exclusive I'm really interested in is Forza, and I wonder how much the resolution matters when you're speeding past the scenery anyway.
  • hillbilly66 21 Jun 2021 18:25:51 3,502 posts
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    I understand where you're coming from. I still like mine even though the way developers hoover up resources means a cut down model probably has a precarious future. Cyberpunk is a bit of a warning because on the x to hit 60fps they set the resolution to 1080p and the S got 1080p 30.

    Edited by hillbilly66 at 18:26:28 21-06-2021
  • Phattso 21 Jun 2021 18:32:08 27,426 posts
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    Probably worth pointing out that 30fps is about triple what the last gen consoles got in CyberPunk, mind you. :-D
  • hillbilly66 21 Jun 2021 18:34:43 3,502 posts
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    Yeah true and it's meant to be very playable. Just that a compromise at the start of the console life makes you wonder where it's got to go.
  • Kay 21 Jun 2021 18:46:25 21,321 posts
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    Most games still target 60fps though right? I'm not bothered about the odd compromised port of a third-party game, I have a PS5 for those. The Series S would strictly be a Gamepass machine, so as long as those games run fine I'll be happy... I think.
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