Nintendo like McDonalds? • Gaming • DS • Eurogamer.net

gerg 22 Jul 2005 16:07:38 880 posts
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There's always a big dispute about whether Nintendo is for kids, and I was thinking about it and came across describing Nintendo in this aspect like McDonalds.

Now, McDonalds is like any other fast food company, like Burger King or KFC. But, it has been said that McDonalds aims specifically for children.

It has the mascot - Ronald McDonald
It has the playgrounds
It has the Happy Meals with the fast food toys.

And yet adults enjy eating there too.
Sort of like Nintendo, eh?

MrWorf 22 Jul 2005 16:08:52 64,193 posts
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/grabs spliff from gerg

No more for you

Edited by Razz at 16:07:56 22-07-2005

Load_2.0 22 Jul 2005 16:11:01 33,582 posts
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See what happens when you make mushrooms illegal? People stockpile and then they raid that stockpile when they should be working....

Machiavel 22 Jul 2005 16:22:34 5,964 posts
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Wonder what would happen if people just played Nintendo games for a month without any other gaming sustenance?

A rise in Haiwaiian shirt and the popularity of musicals perhaps?

dadrester 22 Jul 2005 16:24:40 2,560 posts
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Machiavel wrote:
Wonder what would happen if people just played Nintendo games for a month without any other gaming sustenance?

A rise in Haiwaiian shirt and the popularity of musicals perhaps?

lol

drumbaby 22 Jul 2005 16:27:38 2,688 posts
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Always seems like a good idea at the time, and you remember it being really good...but it gets sickly very quickly.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 16:37:39 880 posts
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I thought it was a good comparison.

Whizzo 22 Jul 2005 16:39:46 44,810 posts
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It's not actually that bad gerg but then I'm more of a KFC fan... ;-)

gerg 22 Jul 2005 16:41:56 880 posts
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I wasn't comparing the sales aspect or whatever, just in the aspect of their audience...

Freek 22 Jul 2005 16:42:04 7,682 posts
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McDonalds, a cheap fastfood company putting out an endless suply of garbage and ocaisionally licenses other companies' IP to putt in it's meals to be popular.
No that's EA not Nintendo.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 16:43:30 880 posts
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I mean in the audience aspect...

gerg 22 Jul 2005 16:45:44 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

gerg wrote:
I wasn't comparing the sales aspect or whatever, just in the aspect of their audience...

Nope

Ninty is for fanbois and decerning gamers.

Sony is for the 2 year old chav in a burberry buggy.

Every console has their fanboys... stope being so negative. I love Nintendo for all it's worth, but I'm not a fanboy.

Kay 22 Jul 2005 16:50:11 21,321 posts
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McDonalds is mass market, whereas Nintendo haven't been for a long time. McDonalds frequently try to change their image to make themselves more appealing to the consumer (e.g. the recent salad menu addition), and in order to make more money. Nintendo are not like that.

Maybe in the early nineties the comparison could have been made, but not now.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 16:53:03 880 posts
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Kay wrote:
McDonalds is mass market, whereas Nintendo haven't been for a long time. McDonalds frequently try to change their image to make themselves more appealing to the consumer (e.g. the recent salad menu addition), and in order to make more money. Nintendo are not like that.

Maybe in the early nineties the comparison could have been made, but not now.

I was actually say taht you could compare the whole new, healthier (and not working) image of McDonalds tohow Nintendo seems to be trying to mature its image with a sleeker and sharper console design and games like Possession appearing on the Revolution.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 16:55:14 880 posts
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I would actually say the PSP is a Supercar and that the DS is a family model.

hrug: Anyway, that's getting off topic.

EDIT: And decerning doesn't show up in dictionary.com

Edited by gerg at 16:55:26 22-07-2005

WoodenSpoon 22 Jul 2005 17:01:15 12,360 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
PS2 = Ford.....mass market quality gaming.

XBOX = BMW quality brought to the masses

Cube = Mitsubishi, you know it's quality who gives a fuck!

They are all sucessful in their own rights

Just in case you were wondering

SP = Peugeot 206. Sexy but had it's best days

DS= Mini The new sexy girly offering

PSP= Porsche Boxter Sexy as fuck and you'll make do until you can afford a 911

360= Rolls royce

PS3= 911 Need I say more.

o_0

Don't you have a shop to run?

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:01:32 880 posts
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I don't think the PSP is the Batmobile as the PSP is slowed down by load times and not very durable. The Batmobile is as fast as hell and at least the Tumbler version is also as durable.

And what do you mean about the DS being like Penelope's car?

Edited by gerg at 17:01:09 22-07-2005

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:09:00 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
Have you played or seen a psp playing? It's the sexiest piece of kit of the last 20 years

Trust me it's The Batmobile

"Chicks dig the car"

DS although I'm loath to pidgeon hole it to just be a girly machine......it's shaping up that way.

OMG, that is pure crap. Yes, I've seen the PSP and it is not the Batmobile. They may think it looks sexy, but then again, the Batmobile is not sexy. Have you seen the Tumbler? The Batmobile is a tough, durable, speed demon machine. A 'sexy' PSP is not.
And the DS is not a girl machine.

The PSP wowed me for a while, being smaller than I thought, and with those clear L+R buttons, but isn't all that. It's a game machine after all.

Edited by gerg at 17:09:07 22-07-2005

Edited by gerg at 17:11:49 22-07-2005

Edited by gerg at 17:13:14 22-07-2005

gamingdave 22 Jul 2005 17:12:56 5,087 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
Have you played or seen a psp playing? It's the sexiest piece of kit of the last 20 years

Trust me it's The Batmobile

"Chicks dig the car"

DS although I'm loath to pidgeon hole it to just be a girly machine......it's shaping up that way.

It may be sexy, but its not all about what a machine looks like. Thats the worst thing with the gaming industry in this country, style over substance. Not saying the PSP has no substance but it blatently has lots of faults or things that could have been better, but people dont care because it looks good.

Retailers are in business to make money, but when independant retailers recomend products on their looks no wonder the charts are a depressing read.

-- EDIT --

In fact its not sytle over substance, its marketing hype over reality.

Edited by gamingdave at 17:12:39 22-07-2005

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:14:54 880 posts
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Can we please try and stay on topic..?

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:18:28 880 posts
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The Tumbler.. from Batman Begins.

But you are so biased. I have yet to see anything that makes the DS purely for girls. Ain't that sexist too?

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:23:24 880 posts
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In your store is not the world. Just because in your store more girls buy the DS than men, doesn't make it a fully girl machine.

And if chicks 'dig the PSP', why isn't it being bought mostly by them. Also, please explain all of the things in your lists and what makes them like their respective consoles.

You're biased because you base your results on one thing (your shop) and don't take into account the rest (the whole gaming world).

Edited by gerg at 17:23:47 22-07-2005

gamingdave 22 Jul 2005 17:24:04 5,087 posts
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I own both, and recently its been the PSP in my pocket on the way to work.

I wouldnt say the DS is a "girls" machine. I would say a lot of girls may not be interested in the PSP though.

If machine A had a 50-50 split of male and female owners, and machine B had a 90-10 split of male and female owners that wouldnt make machine A a girls machine, it would suggest however that girls dont like machine B.

Your store doesnt appear to be an accurate representation of the averge though does it, what with your PSP preorders being 35 times more than the DS.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:31:02 880 posts
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First of all, do not bring sexuality (heterosexual and homosexual) into this. Saying the DS is bought by girls and gay boys is implying that gay men are like girls, which I can tell you is not immeditaely true. And many people have different ideas on what it is to be gay, so it's all in opinion.

Secondly, 'sexy' does not mean 'digged' by girls. I'd say 'sexy' means 'digged' by men.

Thirdly, how can you say that your store is a representitive of the whole world. What if more girl gamers go to your store than men? Does that automatically mean that there are more female gamers than men? To work out who buys what you need to look at sale charts etc.

Edited by gerg at 17:32:31 22-07-2005

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:35:26 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
But it does seem to be reflected across retail that the DS is a girls product.

Erm... facts and numbers please. Right now it's word against word. We need facts.

Edited by gerg at 17:35:01 22-07-2005

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:40:17 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

I don't have 'em!

Then how can you make an argument for the whole world based off of nothing except the general results in your one store? You need a base for your argument...

gamingdave 22 Jul 2005 17:40:53 5,087 posts
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I didnt write that, someone else did, oh im confused.

Anyway, I say:

Sony is a home entertainment manufacturer
Microsoft is a software manufacturer
Nintendo are games makers

non of them are very edable

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:43:34 880 posts
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gamingdave wrote:
I didnt write that, someone else did, oh im confused.

I know. I mucked up the quoting.. lol

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:45:36 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

gerg wrote:

k.o.t.i wrote:

I don't have 'em!

Then how can you make an argument for the whole world based off of nothing except the general results in your one store? You need a base for your argument...

I do. My store.

What would you say would be a good sample amount of units sold to judge who a console is sold to?

As already said, your store is not a representitive of the whole world, you even admitted it when Halo 2 didn't sell well. I think that when you find some facts and figures based off research done into who buy what console on the world's scale, than we can properly argue.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:47:11 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
So how would you do a micro study then?

A micro study? All I know is that you can easily finds out sale figures via surveys etc.

I think finding sales figures for the UK would be easiest.

Edited by gerg at 17:48:21 22-07-2005