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gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:53:30 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

Why do you like the Ninty so much over the PSP?

I suppose mainly innovation, but if I took more time to think about it I could say more. Plus, I think the DS is an interesting and very innovative and fun handheld whilst the PSP just has the looks. Like I said: The PSP is a Supercar whilst the DS is a family model. I find no reason for Supercars in real life.

Teeth 22 Jul 2005 17:55:47 7,987 posts
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So, McDonalds....

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:56:58 880 posts
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Yeah, back on topic. Any more discussion on Nintendo being like McDonalds?

gerg 22 Jul 2005 17:58:52 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
Surely you're joking?

Vitual Tennis, World Champ snooker, Ridge racer, SSX on tour, Wipeout pure, GTA LC, NFSU Rivals, Midnight Club 3, Mercury, Lumines,

31 launch titles compared to 16 on DS

16 titles coming from EA this christmas compared to 5?

Yes Hyoushi you've sucessfully pushed the buttons

Okay... Lumines would be the only one to truly interest me. Most of those are sequals or ports of other games...

EDIT: Also, please stay on topic.

Edited by gerg at 17:58:21 22-07-2005

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:03:23 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
31 launch titles compared to 16 on DS

And maybe the fact that the PSP will launch so late is a part of that?

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:04:41 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
See...no bias at all.

I was talking about bias on your 'DS is for girls' fact and that you were using only 1 shop to promote your argument.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:07:29 880 posts
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Great. So now we can get back on topic...

Sid-Nice 22 Jul 2005 18:13:41 15,848 posts
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k.o.t.i,
When you're at work is there some backward teenage babysitter using your E/G account? Comments like this....

k.o.t.i wrote: Nintendo not even a leading brand in gaming.

In 2004 Nintendo were the largest gaming publisher in Japan and were the 3rd largest publisher in the US. Before for you say " Ah yes Pokémon. " The Pokémon franchise is separate from Nintendo, Pokémon was in 6th place in the Japanese chart of 2004.

I find it hard to believe you have your own videogames shop, to me it's like a bog attendant flying Concorde.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:14:12 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

Of course I'm always gonna use the data from my store as the basis of my argument, it'd be stupid not to and that data clearly shows it's a girly toy.

BIAS..

because...

It may be a 'girly toy' (which is a very controversial description) at your shop, but that is only ONE SHOP. IT DOES NOT REPRESENT A WORLDWIDE, OR EVEN UK RESULT. Thus, it is BIASED to use it to say that the DS is a 'girly toy'. Also, even if more woman buy it, it would still not be a 'girly toy'. If only woman bought Halo 3 would it be considered a 'girly toy'?

Sid-Nice 22 Jul 2005 18:17:14 15,848 posts
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k.o.t.i is a girly toy, as he's a complete dildo.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:18:56 880 posts
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bi·as
n.

1. A line going diagonally across the grain of fabric: Cut the cloth on the bias.
2. A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.
3. An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice.
4. A statistical sampling or testing error caused by systematically favoring some outcomes over others.
Sports.
5. A weight or irregularity in a ball that causes it to swerve, as in lawn bowling.
6. The tendency of such a ball to swerve.
7.The fixed voltage applied to an electrode.

Edited by gerg at 18:18:19 22-07-2005

deem 22 Jul 2005 18:20:01 31,667 posts
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gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:20:49 880 posts
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deem wrote:
the DS is for gays.

And that comes from where?

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:23:58 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

Definitively my store shows a bias then.

Woooohooooo.

Not your store. Your facts that the DS is generally accepted as a 'girly toy'.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:27:16 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

Thank you for accepting the fact that it is a girly toy.

WTF? I never accepted it, and won't until facts are layed down.

And please expalin what makes it a 'girly toy', which is a very bad way of saying what you mean anyway.

Edited by gerg at 18:27:02 22-07-2005

Sid-Nice 22 Jul 2005 18:28:19 15,848 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:

Sid Nice wrote:
k.o.t.i is a girly toy, as he's a complete dildo.

One that wouldn't go any where near you you twat.

I wouldn't know, I've managed to get a 10" one in.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:30:03 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
You just said it was a fact.

:shrug: Bad wording. Take it as 'your implification/idea that the DS is a 'girly toy''

If you're taking it as a forfeit, then that's immature,a nd shows to me that I am right.

Sid-Nice 22 Jul 2005 18:32:11 15,848 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
Is that up your arse or in yer mouth?

Straight up my arse and sideway orally. \o/

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:33:06 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
I think you're right.

That the DS is not a 'girly toy'?

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:45:07 880 posts
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So that one example represents a wordwide sale?
And, without facts, those are just words.

MikeD 22 Jul 2005 18:46:17 10,063 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
You're right that my store aint the whole world but it does tend to be represenative of it.
)

representative of England you mean.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:47:50 880 posts
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Any sales. I just want to see hard facts of who buys what and then you have a basis for an argument.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:49:29 880 posts
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The world. Europe. The UK. I've told you enough. Go find them and present them to us.

Freek 22 Jul 2005 18:52:19 7,682 posts
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I don't think you'll find any figures that track who buys what. You'll only find total sales figures, becuase they're the only ones that matter.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 18:54:19 880 posts
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So, thus you have no basis for an argument and this shuldn't have been started in the first place.

MikeD 22 Jul 2005 19:05:27 10,063 posts
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Hyoushi wrote:
I like games

Then go play them!

kururin 22 Jul 2005 19:08:53 1,211 posts
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Treasure like McDonalds. Or maybe they don't, they just did the game for the insane amounts of dollars and cents.

gerg 22 Jul 2005 19:13:08 880 posts
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k.o.t.i wrote:
And that is that I have a microstudy of .12% of the UK market.

I'd say that is a fairly good foundation to base any opinion on.

Now what are you basing your opinion on?

Can you present the results to us?

I am just trying to disproove your theory. Also, if more woman buy something it does not become a 'girly thing'. If only woman bought Halo 3 would it become a 'girly game'?

Secondly, please define 'girly toy' to me.

And .12%? Come on. I want 100%

Edited by gerg at 19:16:11 22-07-2005

spazmo 22 Jul 2005 19:23:00 2,838 posts
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Heres another analogy...

Nintendo = Paul Scholes
Sony = David Beckham

Knowledgeable people know who the better footballer is. Scholes does his talking on the pitch and nowhere else. The general public go with the flash, image conscious, magazine appearing Beckham and wrongly assume he is the worlds best footballer because he has the most exposure.

simple innit!

VIVA Nintendo!

gerg 22 Jul 2005 20:30:56 880 posts
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So, zou're saying a console that can appeal to both girls and boys equally more than its competitior is girly? I don't think so.

PLus I still think 'girly toy' is a bad choice of words as it's like saying pink is a 'girly' colour. It's like gamingdave or soemone said before. Just because ooption B has less of an appeal to girls than market A doesn't make A a 'grily' option.

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