DS & PSP: Facts and figures • Gaming • DS • Eurogamer.net

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 01:27:05 7,087 posts
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Here's an quite interesting article titled PSP Vs. DS War Rages which actually has *gasp* facts and figures to back it up. It compares the two's performance in Japan and the US.

There is one major gripe I have with article, though and it's this line:

Without SM64DS being bought along with nearly every launch DS, PSP software sales would already be leading, despite Nintendo's US head start

That's a bit like saying "If Chelsea had scored more goals in the match they would've won", non?

Anyways... Vive la difference!

IronGiant 8 Aug 2005 01:32:17 6,352 posts
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Wow, both systems are popular.. big deal, couldn't have predicted that.

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:33:36 1,345 posts
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jump super stars wins!

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 01:36:28 7,087 posts
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IronGiant wrote:
Wow, both systems are popular.. big deal, couldn't have predicted that.

Thanks for your contribution. If facts and figures about the DS & PSP don't interest you why did you bother posting?

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:38:27 1,345 posts
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come on, there are no facts. there are sales figures, which have absolutely nothing to do with quality.

IronGiant 8 Aug 2005 01:42:59 6,352 posts
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Try doing a search on sales figures and you'll find plenty. In fact there's a thread dedicated to just that hence this thread is pointless. Both machines are successful, what else is there to say.

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:43:36 1,345 posts
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set up a curve

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 01:43:53 7,087 posts
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technos wrote:
come on, there are no facts. there are sales figures, which have absolutely nothing to do with quality.

erm.... sales figures are facts aren't they?

/is confused

And I don't think I was making any statements about quality, just thought it was interesting to see how the two fledgling handhelds are doing.

Next time I'm come in and go "N1nT3|\|d05 G|-|3Y" and we can start a proper flame-war if you'd both prefer. Geez.

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:45:02 1,345 posts
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I don't think irongiant root for nintendo btw

sephy 8 Aug 2005 01:45:30 4,036 posts
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technos wrote:
come on, there are no facts. there are sales figures, which have absolutely nothing to do with quality.

No facts?

You said yourself there are sales figures. if these aren't facts then what is? They aren't some randomly generated number. The thread clearly wasn't intended to state which was better quality.

I mean wtf?

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 01:46:48 7,087 posts
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IronGiant wrote:
Try doing a search on sales figures and you'll find plenty. In fact there's a thread dedicated to just that hence this thread is pointless. Both machines are successful, what else is there to say.

Perhaps we should just end the forum now 'cos, like, stuff happens, what else is there left to say.

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:46:51 1,345 posts
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Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
erm.... sales figures are facts aren't they?

they are, of course

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:47:16 1,345 posts
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sephy wrote:

technos wrote:
come on, there are no facts. there are sales figures, which have absolutely nothing to do with quality.
No facts?

You said yourself there are sales figures. if these aren't facts then what is? They aren't some randomly generated number. The thread clearly wasn't intended to state which was better quality.

I mean wtf?

blah blah blah

sephy 8 Aug 2005 01:47:42 4,036 posts
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technos wrote:

Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
erm.... sales figures are facts aren't they?
they are, of course

but you just said they weren't!

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:47:52 1,345 posts
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Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
Perhaps we should just end the forum now 'cos, like, stuff happens, what else is there left to say.

you could try posting inside the thread dedicated to this stuff?

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:50:28 1,345 posts
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sephy wrote:

technos wrote:

Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
erm.... sales figures are facts aren't they?
they are, of course
but you just said they weren't!

it's a separate statement, if you don't get it you don't get it.

asphaltcowboy 8 Aug 2005 01:51:22 5,157 posts
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Interesting read, thanks Pac!

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 01:51:57 7,087 posts
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@technos: Wow. So all this nit-picking from you and your behaving like a dick is because I posted something that you felt should've gone into another thread?

Edited by Pac-man ate my wife at 01:52:35 08-08-2005

sephy 8 Aug 2005 01:52:23 4,036 posts
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technos wrote:
come on, there are no facts. there are sales figures,

oh, i'm sorry for thinking that these two sentances are unrelated

/goes back to school for obviously being dumb

-_-

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:53:00 1,345 posts
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from me? naw, not nitpicking, I was just being funny.

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:53:29 1,345 posts
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sephy wrote:

technos wrote:
come on, there are no facts. there are sales figures,
oh, i'm sorry for thinking that these two sentances are unrelated
/goes back to school for obviously being dumb
-_-

okay

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 01:54:34 7,087 posts
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Cheers cowboy. It'll be interesting to see how the DS fares once its 'big hitters' arrive on the scene. And there's GTA on the PSP looming which should send sales into the stratosphere!

technos 8 Aug 2005 01:56:22 1,345 posts
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jump super stars releases today in japan btw. 8th.

in a couple of days we'll have the first day sales for that one. 200,000+ pre-orders and all, it should explode. if it doesn't, that would be sad.

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 02:00:05 7,087 posts
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technos wrote:
jump super stars releases today in japan btw. 8th.

in a couple of days we'll have the first day sales for that one. 200,000+ pre-orders and all, it should explode. if it doesn't, that would be sad.

I've heard that it's not going to get a Western release because it's a licencing nightmare what with the 100+ different characters. Anyone know if that's true?

/hovers over Lik-Sang buy button

Edited by Pac-man ate my wife at 02:00:37 08-08-2005

technos 8 Aug 2005 02:05:26 1,345 posts
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it probably won't, but I'm not sure licensing is anything to do with it as all characters are jump magazine manga properties and goes as one license in japan .. maybe anime/manga licensing isn't separate in the US, don't remember.. have read about this though so I should actually know.. but eh

anyway, it's a sure buy in japanese form for me. will be interesting to find out how much I won't 'get' of it.. but since it's a fighter it'll probably go down okay. even the comicstrip powerup things.

Edited by technos at 02:06:36 08-08-2005

asphaltcowboy 8 Aug 2005 02:07:22 5,157 posts
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Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
Cheers cowboy. It'll be interesting to see how the DS fares once its 'big hitters' arrive on the scene. And there's GTA on the PSP looming which should send sales into the stratosphere!

Yeah, I think PSP/DS sales in the EU will emulate the US once the PSP gets released here (perhaps the competition will be good for consumers?). Whether that's because of teh games or because of the powerful graphics and look of the machine though is anyone's guess...

I still think everyone should own a DS regardless though

asphaltcowboy 8 Aug 2005 02:08:38 5,157 posts
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Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
I've heard that it's not going to get a Western release because it's a licencing nightmare what with the 100+ different characters. Anyone know if that's true?

/hovers over Lik-Sang buy button

Not sure, but the Naruto games are being released outside of Japan, which is great! Of course, Ninty should jsut make a SSB game! Hopefully Jump will get a release too!

EDIT: and yes, that comment about SM64DS was really dumb :/

Edited by asphaltcowboy at 02:11:06 08-08-2005

technos 8 Aug 2005 02:11:43 1,345 posts
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Yeah, I think PSP/DS sales in the EU will emulate the US once the PSP gets released here (perhaps the competition will be good for consumers?).

don't know, asphalt. the ds release has definitely been better for europe than it was for the us. and the upcoming ds titles that should be strong sellers are releasing around the same time here as there. competition usually don't drive prices up, so yeah, all good for el consumeros.

anyway. I'm trying hard to compile a list of interesting upcoming PSP games, if anyone's got suggestions I might've overlooked for the list.. that would be helpful.

(daxter, frantix, pursuit force, metal gear acid 2, spinout, sticky balls, tokobot, xyanide)

Edited by technos at 02:19:51 08-08-2005

Jolly-Red-Dwarf 8 Aug 2005 02:20:09 137 posts
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The PSP pisses all over the DS, but I think the article is slightly biased towards Sony's machine.

Both systems have now established themselves in Japan as well as the US, so where do they currently stand? We break down each system's top 10, as well as examine why the PSP is dominating America, while the DS conquers Japan.

If the PSP is dominating America, then why has the DS sold more consoles and games? In time the PSP will rule especially when it's launched in Europe.

I got my PSP with a 2gb memory stick...is surprised with the US sales figures PSP games to console almost 2 to 1. I won't be paying �39.99 for a game.... " You know wot I mean A'rry. "

Pac-man-ate-my-wife 8 Aug 2005 02:21:24 7,087 posts
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You've probably been there but Gamefaqs has an upcoming PSP release list. Not sure how comprehensive it is but there might be a few you've overlooked.