IGN Management vs IGN Staff Page 2

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  • Decks 18 May 2021 12:06:37 31,013 posts
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    Lalaland wrote:
    It's amazing how many folk are accepting the framing of this question as being about Israel/Palestine and not editorial independence. It's hilarious to me that a section of the gaming audience that melts down at suggestions of "bias" is willing to ignore commercial interests altering the editorial output of a website for commercial reasons.

    I do not need analysis of Israel/Palestine question from a gaming website, I do expect analysis of the blatant interference of commercial interests over editorial. If you can't see the equivalence to the Gamespot/Gerstmann scenario you are myopic in the extreme.
    I imagine I and many like me, really don't care.
  • Wayne 18 May 2021 12:13:58 4,049 posts
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    I imagine this is one of those conversations where everything that needed to be said, has been said on the first page. But it'll go round in circles for another 20 pages regardless.
  • Not-a-reviewer 18 May 2021 12:14:53 7,686 posts
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    Once there’s interference of commercial interests over editorial on gaming sites, where will it end?

    It’s adorable that you thought commercial interests haven’t influenced content of websites, or any other publication, before this.
  • Not-a-reviewer 18 May 2021 12:15:24 7,686 posts
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    Wayne wrote:
    I imagine this is one of those conversations where everything that needed to be said, has been said on the first page. But it'll go round in circles for another 20 pages regardless.
    Hot Take Wayne.
  • LegendaryApe 18 May 2021 12:18:16 2,498 posts
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    Not-a-reviewer wrote:
    Wayne wrote:
    I imagine this is one of those conversations where everything that needed to be said, has been said on the first page. But it'll go round in circles for another 20 pages regardless.
    Hot Take Wayne.
    Is that a new Pot Noodle flavour?
  • Decks 18 May 2021 12:20:32 31,013 posts
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    Tastes like Cocopops and shame.
  • IRWATWO 18 May 2021 12:23:39 1,378 posts
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    Hot take two (to make a thing go right) - Games journalism is the real danger here. When allowed to take itself seriously, even for a moment, you end up with tragedies like RPS.
  • hillbilly66 18 May 2021 12:29:27 3,502 posts
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    Jazz Rignal on the ethics of war
  • JamboWayOh 18 May 2021 12:30:57 25,236 posts
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    If only Matulef was still here to give us his opinion...
  • Decks 18 May 2021 12:35:22 31,013 posts
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    I can see them parachuting Matulef into the Gaza Strip while ironically wearing a pair of lederhosen and a fur trilby to ask people what their favourite mega CD game was.
  • Rum_Monkey 18 May 2021 12:35:52 3,488 posts
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    I wonder how the reviewer will link it to the time he had ice cream as a child.
  • Vice.Destroyer 18 May 2021 13:01:45 7,437 posts
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    boo wrote:
    While I absolutely sympathise with all the innocents on both sides who are suffering, from my admittedly ill-informed position, I can't help thinking that none of this would have started if Israel hadn't invaded Gaza and the West Bank. Having said that, I'm happy to be educated by someone more knowledgable about the situation.

    But I have to agree with Rob - EG is a Gaming website. If Delia Smith started weighing in about why Halo only deserved 5/10, I'd think "Stick to what you know." To that end, while EG staffers are absolutely entitled to their opinions, I don't think a videogaming website is the right place to be putting forward formal political opinions.

    Just my $0.02 - others will have their own views.
    Totally agree. Also, I have noticed that we are now living in a world where it seems to be impossible to voice an opinion on polarising subjects, without being called a bigot or racist or get death threats and rape threats. For one, let people who can give a nuanced and balanced view on this crisis give their opinions. I'm here for it. Also, nobody wants the dregs of the internet sending them abuse for either supporting Palestine (aka denying Israel the right to exist) or supporting Israel (aka supporting the subjugation of a race). (This was a tongue in cheek comment to illustrate how hard it is to comment on this without igniting a shit storm of unbelievable proportions. EG is not the site to an opinion on this. In my opinion. There are other things we as individuals could and should do. But I don't expect that from EG)

    Edited by Vice.Destroyer at 13:03:19 18-05-2021
  • elstoof 18 May 2021 13:03:21 28,125 posts
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    I’m waiting to hear what Ja Rule has to say about EG not covering IGN covering Israel and Palestine
  • hillbilly66 18 May 2021 13:07:38 3,502 posts
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    With social media we have evolved to the point where everybody has a platform. It is funny when celebrities decide to wade in on issues and get called out because it's nothing to do with why they're famous. Actors etc. To be honest I don't mind hearing what people have to say.
  • Lalaland 18 May 2021 13:10:00 25 posts
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    This is how editorial independence is lost.

    By centering whatever issue of the day generates controversy and claiming any actions by management are about wanting to avoid that. The staff were clearly informed that the statement which claimed to represent their views was imposed by management on foot of concerns about commercial interests. When management put out their statement they lacked the courage to assert who they were and why they were doing that and instead sought to portray their commercially motivated statement as representing editorial opinion. If management at IGN truly felt that the topic was not one they should address they should have said so while clearly identifying themselves, instead they stole the voice of their editorial staff to do so.
  • Fake_Blood 18 May 2021 13:18:38 11,093 posts
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    What’s with the outraged new people?
  • wuntyate 18 May 2021 13:20:05 17,493 posts
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    I think they got lost on the way to the comments section, saw words and usernames, and thought this was it.
  • Not-a-reviewer 18 May 2021 13:20:42 7,686 posts
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    Democracy died the day EG didn’t write about IGNs views on Palestine. I’m amazed the site isn’t swarming with outraged people from around the world.
  • LFace 18 May 2021 13:26:08 192 posts
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    Maybe they will do a Jelly Deals with an offer for a commemorative middle East towel that's 15% off
  • Vortex808 18 May 2021 14:59:09 15,593 posts
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    hillbilly66 wrote:
    Jazz Rignal on the ethics of war
    That's the eagerly waited follow up to the art of war, right?
  • JamboWayOh 18 May 2021 15:39:33 25,236 posts
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    Shit, Wayne was right. Somebody hold me.
  • brokenkey 18 May 2021 16:19:26 11,128 posts
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    This latest thing started off as a result of forceable evection of arabs in Israeli space. I think we can infer that any media silence is because the editorial hand is part of the buy-to-let brigade.

    Edited by brokenkey at 16:20:28 18-05-2021
  • Immaterial 18 May 2021 16:20:09 2,626 posts
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    Wayne wrote:
    I imagine this is one of those conversations where everything that needed to be said, has been said on the first page. But it'll go round in circles for another 20 pages regardless.
    Nearly at the end of page 2 guys. Come on, let's make an effort to keep circling for another 18.
  • Roos-V 19 May 2021 12:06:50 478 posts
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    Given Eurogamer's love of a pun for their subheadings, I'll be really disappointed if "JewJew Rocket" isn't used for their piece
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