THFourteen wrote:So Steam Deck at least on spec > GPD WIn3? |
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bone-on 805 posts
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Malek86 12,331 posts
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Registered 14 years agoTHFourteen wrote:
The processor in the Win 3 is using Intel's new Xe Graphics iGPU. It's above any of AMD's current Vega APUs. No idea if the RDNA2 part in the Steam Deck will be faster, but then it's a lot cheaper anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were close or even a bit below. Drivers are definitely going to be better too.
The win 3 has a smaller screen too, 5.5” which is going to make a lot of pc games unplayable.
The controls are a bit fucked up too imo.
Also although the cpu is better, the GPU on Intel devices isn’t as good, and the drivers are crap and some games don’t work, destiny 2 just got fixed last week but hasn’t worked on Intel devices for at least a year.
I use my Win Max to moonlight stream from my pc and it’s great.
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Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years agoSo will it meet the Win11 minimum requirements? -
Worlds_ 172 posts
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Registered 4 months agoOne thing that baffled me is; why is the design so crap? Like utter plastic bulky crap.
There’s product designers out there who could have made this look cool. You guys might not be so bothered but working in design myself, it’s so weird to see something of this scale with such ugly design.
Edited by Worlds_ at 23:37:59 18-07-2021 -
OnlyJoeKing 1,293 posts
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Registered 9 years ago@Worlds_ I hated it at first glance, but I suspect I might have been hasty. It's growing on me. Though I wish the screen was a bigger proportion of the machine.
But then again. I recall trying those massive Hori grips for the Switch, and thinking it was far too big. So maybe I'll hate it after all. Time will tell. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoBigOrkWaaagh wrote:
It's running SteamOS or something similar. It's nothing like as flexible or useful.
Dirtbox wrote:
How can it though? Even if it does 'die' it wouldn't be like if Nintendo suddenly stopped making Switch games. It's just a PC in a different form factor, it'll run anything that will run on any other PC.
Not touching this thing with a barge pole. I don't use a computer to play games, I use it to work and it just so happens to play games. This is utterly worthless to me.
It'll be dead in a year just like all their other crap.
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Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWorlds_ wrote:
In design terms, my worry is that it ends up with the same so-called ergonomics as the Wii-U gamepad.
One thing that baffled me is; why is the design so crap? Like utter plastic bulky crap.
There’s product designers out there who could have made this look cool. You guys might not be so bothered but working in design myself, it’s so weird to see something of this scale with such ugly design.
I never noticed how bad the gamepad was until Xenoblade Chronicles X came out. That was the first game I put serious hours into on the Wii-U, rather than playing for a quick blast here and there. I got it on a Friday and played a hell of a lot of it over the weekend.
And on the Monday morning, I had white hot nails of agony shooting through my hands. I barely made it through the week at work, as even normal typing was intensely painful. Turns out the Gamepad's ergonomics were a fucking disaster. It was heavy, but the ridge along the back tended to put a lot of side-on pressure onto your index finger. At the same time, the lack of "wings" like you get on a normal console controller kept your palm cramped. The fixed the first of those problems for the Switch, though not the second.
The Deck does look a bit uncomfortably close to that gamepad. -
Tomo 19,565 posts
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Registered 18 years agoButton placement aside, it looks chunky like the Hori Split pad which everyone seems to rave about. -
BigOrkWaaagh 10,554 posts
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Registered 14 years agoRogueywon wrote:
Win11 requires a TPM chip, strongly doubt this has one, but I haven't checked.
So will it meet the Win11 minimum requirements? -
dfunked09 2,406 posts
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Registered 1 year agoIt's possibly built into the CPU as with most modern ones rather than needing a separate module and can be enabled in the BIOS, but will have to wait and see really. -
StixxUK 8,755 posts
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Registered 19 years agoNot sure what it is, but I'm getting some Game Gear vibes -
dominalien 10,703 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYou lot saying it's useless as is and requires Windows makes me very sad 
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tonyferrino 407 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@Rogueywon The shape of the Switch is the reason I bought one of the Satisfye grips. The added "wings" make a hell of a difference to the comfort when holding it for any decent length of time. I can see how this will be very similar, like you say - you need something for your palms to rest on. -
Fake_Blood 11,093 posts
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Registered 12 years agoRuh-roh!
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Worlds_ 172 posts
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Registered 4 months agoWhilst I see what you guys are seeing (screen size, button placement), I actually meant the plastic design - the product design.
For example, take the classic iPod or iPhone. That's 'brilliant' design. The Nintendo DS was good, but there's very little about this Deck which is great design.
Forget button placements and all that, I'm meaning the actual shape or specifically the look of it.
Anyway, all this has got me thinking whether I should cancel and just buy a PC, get back into PC gaming. I used to do a lot 15 years ago, was literally one of the best players on C&C Generals 😂 and I still miss RTS games so much. Hmmmm -
mrpon 37,366 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI think the shape is intentional to cover two aspects: battery size and heat dissipation.
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Porko_Rossi 127 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI just preordered one for getting back into some RTS games, C&C and SimCity 2000 etc. I weighed up restricted access to the TV, unable to buy a ps5 and the lack of premium Nintendo games like Metroid/mario RPG for my switch. -
Kay 21,321 posts
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Registered 17 years agoStixxUK wrote:
Atari Lynx for me.
Not sure what it is, but I'm getting some Game Gear vibes -
One_Vurfed_Gwrx 4,467 posts
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Registered 15 years agomrpon wrote:
With the size of it I am still surprised the battery isn't a bit bigger, matching the likes of the OneXPlayer and GPD WinMax specs at least (almost 60 W/h) and it is smaller than GPD Win3's too which is odd.
I the shape is intentional to cover two aspects: battery size and heat dissipation.
I wonder if it has a 'correct orientation's screen as one complaint from the Chinese devices has been that they are vertical screens by default.
Will be interesting to see how noisy it is too as I haven't had a 'fanned' Win handheld as my Vision is an Atom and passively cooled (and can get very hot). I had been very close to ordering a OneXPlayer during the IndieGogo but resisted it...
As for operating systems I will give SteamOS a try but may end up dualbooting (if I can get a reliable Win10 key or my retail box Win7 will install and upgeade for free (as apprently it still works)). I assume actual compiled for Linux emulators and the like may run a tad better without the Windows overhead but have never tried any linux variants on a PC. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@Malek86
Folks on the Aya Neo discord are estimating that the 8 RDNA2 CUs in the steam deck are about twice as powerful as the 6 Vega CUs in the 4500U.
Most of the games I’ve played on handheld PCs have been GPU bound so I think this bodes well for the steam deck outperforming anything on the market right now. Maybe. -
SnackPlissken 3,512 posts
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Registered 4 years agoCan you run Cory in the House at 60fps emulated? -
Worlds_ 172 posts
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Registered 4 months agomrpon wrote:
Yes but honestly a designer could have designed the shape better. It doesn't have to be ugly, which it is in product design terms. Basically, there's no excuse.
I think the shape is intentional to cover two aspects: battery size and heat dissipation.
Edited by Worlds_ at 14:17:07 19-07-2021 -
smoothpete 37,743 posts
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Registered 17 years agoStixxUK wrote:
My first thought was Atari Lynx
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Without being able to hold one in my hands, I have my concerns about the button and stick placement.
Having the analogue sticks directly next to and inside the d-pad and face buttons doesn't strike me as immediately comfy. I have small hands so reaching the sticks with my thumb might not prove the comfiest.
Just getting flashbacks to using the old original Xbox Duke controller; it's doable bit not the comfiest. -
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Registered 6 years agoI wouldn't expect to play rts games with proficiency on those track pads. -
I'm not a fan of track pads in general. Not tried those of course, but it's something else I'd want to try before purchasing. -
Fake_Blood 11,093 posts
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Registered 12 years agoI’ve been using the Index for a while, I’d be surprised if the ergonomics on this will be bad. It’s hard to imagine without holding one, I got the WiiU gamepad out to get an idea what it might be like, but this thing is 1.4 pounds so hard to say. -
KD 3,575 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThis might get me to play Persona 4 -
Trowel 24,512 posts
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Registered 18 years agoKD wrote:
You can pick up an OLED Vita for less than £100.
This might get me to play Persona 4 -
Vita won’t do the rest of the stuff.
It's also not true. 
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