WTF are Apple playing at?

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  • Lutz 8 Sep 2005 09:38:58 48,870 posts
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    The iPod Phone has been revealed...

    /watches the world fail to tremble...

    They've created a phone right, that plays music! WOW!

    ...

    About 3 years too late, no? And get this, it can only have 100 tracks on it, even if you have more space available (Great move THERE Apple) and you have to enter into 2 year contract to get it!

    Who do Apple think they are? They're releasing tech that has been around for AT LEAST 30 months, capping it stupidly, and asking for double the norm commitment in a tarriff, just cos it's an Apple product...

    Get over yourselves Apple...

    Edited by Lutz at 09:44:33 08-09-2005
  • Deleted user 8 September 2005 09:40:54
    ..not to mention getting Motorolla, the Alba of mobiles, to make it for them!
  • Derblington 8 Sep 2005 09:41:40 35,161 posts
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    They are not forcing you to buy it if you don't want it so i don't really see the problem.

    The big sell about it is that it links to iTunes so that you can easily store and navigate your music. And it's not just them - they're in partnership with a phone co so I don't think they're solely responsible.
  • phAge 8 Sep 2005 09:42:28 25,487 posts
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    C'mon Lutz - Apple releases ONE product that doesn't thoroughly pound the opposition into the ground, and you start calling for blood?
  • Shinzou 8 Sep 2005 09:44:38 887 posts
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    Forget the phone its all about the nano!
  • Lutz 8 Sep 2005 09:46:57 48,870 posts
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    phAge wrote:
    C'mon Lutz - Apple releases ONE product that doesn't thoroughly pound the opposition into the ground, and you start calling for blood?
    Nonono, what I'm getting at is they're releasing a product that is inferior to a other products released 3 years ago and effectivly charging double for it.

    Apple products are always traditionally more expensive as they believe they're better, and that's fine. But here they are clearly releasing something old and out dated and expecting it to sell simply because it's an apple.

    My phone is 30 months old, does everything that one does (music wise) and more, as mine can download tracks and hold more than 100. And that article hints at the shuffle feature, meaning you can ONLY shuffle (IIRC).

    There's a difference between releasing something different and in your view better, and rehashing ancient tech and hoping your brand name will carry it.
  • zErOb_cOOl 8 Sep 2005 09:50:26 3,237 posts
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    And surprise surprise the BBC have covered the 'wonderful' gadget, just like that weather predicting peg the other day
  • Lutz 8 Sep 2005 09:51:53 48,870 posts
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    Slurpy J wrote:
    Like I said though, Cingular approached Apple and asked if they can use Itunes, so it's not like Apple are releasing a product, they have just give Cingular the rights to use itunes.
    OK, so Cingular are hoping that the Apple brand will sell thatphone them. Apple aren't discouraging it though, nor making any improvement to the tech. Nor are motorolla.

    What I'm getting at is that a phone has been released, is expecting to sell lots, and is ancient in terms of functionality.
  • Lutz 8 Sep 2005 09:52:19 48,870 posts
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    zErOb_cOOl wrote:
    And surprise surprise the BBC have covered the 'wonderful' gadget, just like that weather predicting peg the other day
    Nowt wrong with a weather predicting peg. It'd probably be more accurate that Mr Fish any day.
  • phAge 8 Sep 2005 09:52:23 25,487 posts
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    Lutz wrote:
    My phone is 30 months old, does everything that one does (music wise) and more, as mine can download tracks and hold more than 100.
    Ah - but is it an Apple? ;)

    Actually, it *does* look a bit shit. Why not get the Apple designers to make it, instead of some Dell rejects? And the 100 song cap is a thoroughly bad idead. Hasn't got much going from it at all.

    Anyway, I'm just mad 'cause I just bought a mini approx. 6 hours before the nano was revealed.

    Decisions, decisions...
  • Derblington 8 Sep 2005 09:53:06 35,161 posts
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    Lutz wrote:
    What I'm getting at is that a phone has been released, is expecting to sell lots, and is ancient in terms of functionality.
    Like the GB micro then.
  • Derblington 8 Sep 2005 09:54:00 35,161 posts
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    phAge wrote:
    Anyway, I'm just mad 'cause I just bought a mini approx. 6 hours before the nano was revealed.

    Decisions, decisions...
    That's bad luck!
  • zErOb_cOOl 8 Sep 2005 09:54:34 3,237 posts
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    How do you think the Apple boss got his name...by sucking so so much.
  • Deleted user 8 September 2005 09:55:04
    Lutz wrote:
    phAge wrote:
    C'mon Lutz - Apple releases ONE product that doesn't thoroughly pound the opposition into the ground, and you start calling for blood?
    Nonono, what I'm getting at is they're releasing a product that is inferior to a other products released 3 years ago and effectivly charging double for it.

    Apple products are always traditionally more expensive as they believe they're better, and that's fine. But here they are clearly releasing something old and out dated and expecting it to sell simply because it's an apple.

    My phone is 30 months old, does everything that one does (music wise) and more, as mine can download tracks and hold more than 100. And that article hints at the shuffle feature, meaning you can ONLY shuffle (IIRC).

    There's a difference between releasing something different and in your view better, and rehashing ancient tech and hoping your brand name will carry it.

    By the same token, my mobile phone is over 2 years old now I think, plays games (and emulation for nes etc), plays films (4 hours of it on a 512MB card), or can hold many hours of music, can act as a full GPS system (with a bluetooth adapter) AND I can make an d recieve voice calls, sms, emails, surf the web etc etc...

    then, those idiots Sony bring out a PSP... AND 'cripple' it with restrictions, unlike my mobile phone...
  • Whizzo 8 Sep 2005 09:55:26 44,810 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    ..not to mention getting Motorolla, the Alba of mobiles, to make it for them!
    I think that's insulting to Alba! I've had one Motorola phone and I got shot of it in a week, POS.
  • Lutz 8 Sep 2005 09:55:27 48,870 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    Lutz wrote:
    What I'm getting at is that a phone has been released, is expecting to sell lots, and is ancient in terms of functionality.
    Like the GB micro then.
    In part, yes.

    Not quite the same, as the GBAM is to the GBA and GBASP what the iPod mini was to iPod.

    The only major flaw of the GBAM is the price. It does add at least 2 better improvements to previous GBA models:

    1: Size
    2: Quality of screen.

    Where as this phone adds approx zero to other music based phones.
  • Deleted user 8 September 2005 09:56:17
    phAge wrote:
    And the 100 song cap is a thoroughly bad idead. Hasn't got much going from it at all.
    How long do you think it'll stay restricted? I mean, really!
  • phAge 8 Sep 2005 09:56:36 25,487 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    Decisions, decisions...
    That's bad luck! It *could* be worse - bought if from Shivoa for £105, so I'll probably be able to flog it again for the same price, and buy a 2BG nano. Just not sure if I want to lose 2GBs of storage, or if the nano is *too* small and fragile.

    But yes, it sucks the donkeys balls. Hard.
  • Whizzo 8 Sep 2005 09:57:02 44,810 posts
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    Lutz wrote:Where as this phone adds approx zero to other music based phones.
    No it adds an Apple logo therefore for some idiots it becomes a must purchase.
  • phAge 8 Sep 2005 09:57:50 25,487 posts
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    Djini wrote:
    phAge wrote:
    And the 100 song cap is a thoroughly bad idead. Hasn't got much going from it at all.
    How long do you think it'll stay restricted? I mean, really!
    Idunno. But even if you remove the cap, the phone still looks shite compaired to, say a W800.
  • Lutz 8 Sep 2005 09:58:18 48,870 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
    No it adds an Apple logo therefore for some idiots it becomes a must purchase.
    I agree completely Whizzo.
  • zErOb_cOOl 8 Sep 2005 09:58:52 3,237 posts
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    Lutz wrote:
    Nonono, what I'm getting at is they're releasing a product that is inferior to a other products released 3 years ago and effectivly charging double for it.

    Apple products are always traditionally more expensive as they believe they're better, and that's fine. But here they are clearly releasing something old and out dated and expecting it to sell simply because it's an apple.

    Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly . Thats what I can't stand about Apple.

    The way they are ripping off the less well informed of us out there with such ease. And just because of the name (and the price) you think you are getting/paying for the forefront of technology.
  • Deleted user 8 September 2005 09:59:27
    Lutz wrote:
    Whizzo wrote:
    No it adds an Apple logo therefore for some idiots it becomes a must purchase.
    I agree completely Whizzo.
    Yeah, no-one with ANY sense whatsoever buys a BRAND now do they!

    /ROFL
  • Ginger 8 Sep 2005 09:59:39 7,256 posts
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    Shinzou wrote:
    Forget the phone its all about the nano!
    /tapes nanopod to Nokia phone

    Edited by Ginger at 10:04:37 08-09-2005
  • Pike 8 Sep 2005 10:00:55 13,459 posts
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    Djini wrote:
    Lutz wrote:
    Whizzo wrote:
    No it adds an Apple logo therefore for some idiots it becomes a must purchase.
    I agree completely Whizzo.
    Yeah, no-one with ANY sense whatsoever buys a BRAND now do they!

    /ROFL

    Well that isn't really what they wrote is it?
  • Lutz 8 Sep 2005 10:03:54 48,870 posts
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    Djini wrote:
    Yeah, no-one with ANY sense whatsoever buys a BRAND now do they!

    /ROFL
    No-one with any sense buys a brand that's 3 years out of date no...

    As much as I love certain electronics companies, I wouldn't pay £300 for a 28" 4:3 TV now would I?

    Edit: Or what Pike said. :)

    Edited by Lutz at 10:09:11 08-09-2005
  • phAge 8 Sep 2005 10:05:19 25,487 posts
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    zErOb_cOOl wrote:
    Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly . Thats what I can't stand about Apple.

    The way they are ripping off the less well informed of us out there with such ease. And just because of the name (and the price) you think you are getting/paying for the forefront of technology.
    Ah. So the poor consumers are being misled to buy inferior Apple tech, simply because every Apple product ('cept the phone) *reeks* of quality in design and function? And the high price is in fact a fiendish way of fooling consumers into thinking they're buying cutting-edge tech? If only other companies had thought of that one first, eh?

    Bad Apple indeed...
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