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As an experiment, if you can find a game on existing platforms that allows you to user-define controls....plug in two controllers, hold one in one hand, one in the other and see how good you are at GTA, Halo etc. Peej |
NOW... The Revolution Controller • Page 9
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pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Epitaph 860 posts
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Registered 18 years agoWhat, like GoldenEye? -
pjmaybe wrote:
OMG LIKE A MOUSE IN ONE HAND WITH LOTS OF BUTTONS AND A KEYBOARD!
As an experiment, if you can find a game on existing platforms that allows you to user-define controls....plug in two controllers, hold one in one hand, one in the other and see how good you are at GTA, Halo etc.
Peej
Yes, this would be WAY too hard! 1 controller in each hand! It's WAY too complicated!
Edit: Sorry Peej, I couldn't help myself!
Edited by Djini at 16:31:14 16-09-2005 -
Roarer 734 posts
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Registered 19 years agoMilk wrote:
What about LMA manager?
Don't know if you're being sarcastic, but since the revolution controller is basically like a 3D mouse, traditional mouse-controlled games would work perfectly. -
RichDC 9,177 posts
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Registered 17 years agopjmaybe wrote:
As an experiment, if you can find a game on existing platforms that allows you to user-define controls....plug in two controllers, hold one in one hand, one in the other and see how good you are at GTA, Halo etc.
Peej
The thing there is though, current pads are designed and weighted to be used with two hands, so trying to use one in each hand just doesn't work. However the Rev's have been designed and I would imagined weighted appropriately. -
pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 20 years agoDjini wrote:
pjmaybe wrote:
OMG LIKE A MOUSE IN ONE HAND WITH LOTS OF BUTTONS AND A KEYBOARD!
As an experiment, if you can find a game on existing platforms that allows you to user-define controls....plug in two controllers, hold one in one hand, one in the other and see how good you are at GTA, Halo etc.
Peej
Yes, this would be WAY too hard! 1 controller in each hand! It's WAY too complicated!
Edit: Sorry Peej, I couldn't help myself!
Edited by Djini at 16:31:14 16-09-2005
This thing so needs a "sarcasm" smiley.
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KTM 1,674 posts
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Registered 17 years agoWhat confuses me is how making it long and square is going to attract non-gamers. You pick up a tv remote, point it in the general vicinity of the tv and press a button. Then you put it down. Finding the right adapter, untangling the wires, plugging it in, remembering the right 'wiggle' for control, holding your arm aloft and then doing all kinds of other shit is much much much more complicated. WHat a fucking stupid idea. Why not make it look like a fluffy bunny? THAT wont scare anyone away from games, (girls and grandmas will love it) and you can hold the little fucker with 2 hands.
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Milk 2,253 posts
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Registered 17 years agoRoarer wrote:
Milk wrote:
What about LMA manager?
Don't know if you're being sarcastic, but since the revolution controller is basically like a 3D mouse, traditional mouse-controlled games would work perfectly.
I was just trying to pick another genre... I have a feeling that it will work quite well for most things, but that not many people will use it (ala trackballs). -
KTM wrote:
I can assure you that in my house, you never put it down and gaurd it with your life... The TV and Media Center remote is like 'the one ring' in MY living room
You pick up a tv remote, point it in the general vicinity of the tv and press a button. Then you put it down..gif)
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Milk 2,253 posts
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Registered 17 years agoKTM wrote:
What confuses me is how making it long and square is going to attract non-gamers. You pick up a tv remote, point it in the general vicinity of the tv and press a button. Then you put it down. Finding the right adapter, untangling the wires, plugging it in, remembering the right 'wiggle' for control, holding your arm aloft and then doing all kinds of other shit is much much much more complicated. WHat a fucking stupid idea. Why not make it look like a fluffy bunny? THAT wont scare anyone away from games, (girls and grandmas will love it) and you can hold the little fucker with 2 hands.
Edited by KTM at 16:38:00 16-09-2005
Are you are on your period KTM?
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spazmo 2,838 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI think i'll trust Nintendo's judgement on this. After all, they have been thinking about and testing this for months now. They are'nt going to release some poorly implemented, shoddy peice of work that only allows for 1 or 2 types of games. -
sam_spade 15,745 posts
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Registered 20 years agoIt wouldn't take a genius to create a peripheral that allows you to slot the controller in.
Something like this: (--) that would allow you to create a steering wheel and with the addition of a cable you can create force-feedback and a re-centering feature.
The unit could also provide forward and back motion if it had a locking feature. -
Teeth 7,987 posts
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Registered 18 years agoThat's much better than my penis-wheel, sam. Nice one. -
Fantastic stuff Nintendo, that's just plain awesome. I really like the sound of it and I can't wait to see the games.
At the moment, top of my Next-Gen Most Wanted list, with the PS3 at the bottom. -
SirScratchalot 7,921 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBlerk wrote:
marilena wrote:
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Give me the name of a current gen game and I'll give you a control scheme. I'm supposed to go home in ten minutes, but if you give me the game in time, I'll pot the scheme on Monday, first thing in the morning.
You can barely control it with a normal pad!.gif)
San andreas controls fine with the standard FPS setup on the pc. Once again the only controller setup that´s actually been used with the revo controller -
SirScratchalot 7,921 posts
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Registered 16 years agoQuoted from gamespot:
"Finally, the last demo of the day showed off the analog-stick attachment for the controller--which Nintendo reps likened to a nunchaku--and it was revealed how you could use it in conjunction with the main unit to play a game. In this case, the GameCube's Metroid Prime 2: Echoes was redone to include support for the Revolution controller and the analog attachment. The demo let you play through one of the early areas in the game, which felt considerably different from the original GameCube game. The attachment basically gave the game a much more PC-first-person-shooter feel thanks to the ability to free-look and aim with the main controller by moving it anywhere you wanted. The analog stick controlled your movement. The A button let you jump, while the B button fired your weapon. The shoulder buttons on the analog attachment let you switch visors, scan, and lock on to targets, although the lock-on feature was less necessary thanks to the precision firing available via just looking around with the controller. You could shift to the morph ball by pressing the select button on the main controller's face, which felt surprisingly comfortable to do in the middle of action." -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoAin't got time to read the whole thread yet, so all I can say is WTF are Nintendo thinking? This controller surely ensures that no ports will appear on the Revolution. Even with plugins this forces people to buy extras just to play a game, a restriction which has never really worked with any release in the history of gaming. Maybe Ninty will release some first party titles with bundled controllers so 3rd party ports become a possibility, but not only will cost more but it will confirm that the controller is deficient in the first place.
I really like the idea of the vast range of new control methods which will no doubt lead to many original and highly entertaining games which should appeal to new and jaded gamers alike. But as far as commercial sense is concerned, this seems to have absolutely none. By cutting themselves off from the vast majority of ports Nintendo will oblige gamers to purchase either an X360 or PS3 if they want to play any next gen game that isn’t built around the quirky controller of the Revolution. Basically any franchise game that doesn’t involve plumbers and Zelda. The only games that will be available on the Revolution will be specialised ones, which was one of the selling points of the GameCube. We all know how well that did.
Hopefully Ninty have thought this out a whole hell of a lot more then 1st impressions indicate cuz unless they have some well thought out plans the Revolution will be their Dreamcast. Which would be sad. -
ProfessorLesser 19,693 posts
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Registered 17 years agoFirst of all... FUCK....
...ME...
...SIDEWAYS...
I am thoroughly and completely surprised and anyone who thinks this will kill Nintendo is mad MAD I tell you and yes I'm rambling but I've got a lot of tardish comments to read so I really don't have any time for punc- and OH MY GOD this is so cool I can't wait to actualy get one in my hands and SWISH and CLANG omfg teh LIGHTSABERS!!! Can you even imagine it! tum ti tum /me whistles omg a sea bass with a laser on its head, jesus christ, eh what's this, Doom 3 on the revolution? yes please, oh and Time crisis? Why thank you kindly sir and what's that you say about never seeing Link the same way again...?!?!
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...First person Zelda!?
/swish DIE Ganondorf DIE you ginger bastard! /swings argh, fucking EAT it TASTE the steel, TASTE IIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!
/does shot of PTFE
/dies instantly to avoid people hurting his precious, precious Gareth.de 'happy bubble'
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SirScratchalot 7,921 posts
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Registered 16 years ago*Points out once again that people who have used the controllers says it reacts to very miniscule wrist movements*
You´ll have to come up with a new one.... sorry.... -
otto wrote:
They're out to lunch. One too many trips to the Mushroom Kingdom. That thing a game controller?? Anyone here actually play games on the iPod? No of course not, you can't.
You haven't really read how it works, have you, otto? -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoThis could be great but it ain't gonna sell many consoles I don't think. If Nintendo are only interested in niche markets fair enough to them but I've got a feeling the revelation of this controller is going to lead to some very interesting shareholder meetings in the near future. Not many investors tend to be keen on companies that show no intention of expanding the price of their shares.
Damn right there's going to be some great experiences with this thing. It's just a shame that the masses are very unlikely to ever have them.
Another note. Why the hell aren't the plugins irelss as well? The thumb-stick controller looks great for racing games but who's gonna want to have a remote control sat in their groin just so they can play a game one-handed? -
Chtulie 809 posts
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Registered 17 years agoAfter looking at the presentation video..weell, it's not THAT odd a thing, is it? Especially with the attachment it's basically a regular joypad, except they've found a way to exchange the right stick for a 'light gun' type interface.
With the attachment, you've got your left thumb on a joystick, and two shoulder buttons under the index finger, in your right there's a bunch of buttons and something a little more intuitive then a second stick (FPS on the console always felt like trying to draw a square with the left hand and a circle with the right hand).
It actually seems like it's a whole lot better then a regular pad, you've got mouse like precision on the right, an analogue stick on the left and a whole bunch of buttons.
Plus southpaws ought to be jumping with joy at this. -
AnotherMartin 6,229 posts
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Registered 20 years agoUncleLou wrote:
otto wrote:
They're out to lunch. One too many trips to the Mushroom Kingdom. That thing a game controller?? Anyone here actually play games on the iPod? No of course not, you can't.
You haven't really read how it works, have you, otto?
Judging from half the comments in this thread, I don't think most people have. Half the issues people are having with it where answered months ago and again yesterday/today. Do people read anything other than EG's front page before they make their mind up?
Me? The verdict is still out until I see some software and get my hands on it, there's also too many questions about the box itself that need answering until I can get too excited.
But my initial reaction is a good one, if it works as well as people are saying and the 3rd parties that have come out in support are actualy in support if it and not just hedging their bets then it could be just what the consol market needs. -
ProfessorLesser 19,693 posts
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Registered 17 years agoArgh, couldn't finish page 2 of this thread. It hurts me to see forumites finding something negative to say about this.
Aren't we all experienced enough not to care if this is the end of Nintendo or not? Aren't you excited at being able to play in a way that we never have done before? Who cares if some of the games are crap? This is true of ANY and EVERY system, but we always find ones to rave about.
Why are some people expecting a revolution with a fanfare? It was never going to be a bloody upheaval. What exactly did you want from this, realistically?
I think we're fucking lucky people to have Nintendo around. -
SlackMaster 3,156 posts
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Registered 17 years agorhythm wrote:
I can really appreciate what Ninty are trying to do here but this gives the firm impression that they've lost touch altogether. I'll be really impressed if they can pull this off but it's going to need some unbelievably good games behind it to sell the idea.
Anyone found any videos of it in action?
The way I look at it is it's something new and a different way of controlling and interacting with games. It's not like they are subtracting anything from the console as it will have a traditional pad available that the freehand controller will slot into. All they are doing is expanding to scope of ideas and possibilites in gaming.
The analogue and freehand controller combo looks awesome for 3D and FPS IMO -
SirScratchalot 7,921 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe comments make more sense once a lot of people read how it works... yet a lot of the comments seem to not quite have grasped what it is......
I am very much looking forward to the revolution, hopefully once there are some games to go with it people will be a little less confused and can be negative for more detailed reasons. -
The little poll that the BBC website indicates just over half the people that have answered think the controller is rubbish.
I think it looks ace. -
SlackMaster 3,156 posts
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Registered 17 years agoMost of the pictures on games sites and news sites are just of the controller from the top without the analogue controller bit, so basically it just looks like a TV remote.
If they showed the whole thing underside and all with all the extra bits, and actually explain how the things works properly i.e. how the extra sensors you get with it that sit on your TV pick up movement and distance of the controller so you can look around by moving the remote and move with the analouge in the other hand, they might go 'oh yeah this is great'... I'm just thinking of FPS here but it has the possibility to open up so much more... it looks great and with ideas like this and the DS I'm starting to think that what Nintendo has to offer is so much more appealing.
Yes, I like my beat-em-ups but then they will have a traditional controller for that so it wouldn't bother me at all.
I think that the GameCube didn't really do anything new with it's design and concepts, but it seems that recently with the DS and Revolution they really seem to be coming up with some great stuff that's likely to bring in a whole load of new ideas... it great
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SirScratchalot 7,921 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDon´t really see why you would think that though...... -
Nextgen for me:
Nintendo Revolution = now a must-buy
PS3 (not quite as exciting anymore)
Not that pushed about XBox at all yet.
It's great to know that there's something truly fantastic to look forward to - Metroid Prime 3 with the sweetest control system ever.
I pity those who can't appreciate how well it's going to work. Console games have long suffered due to lack of fast analogue movement as many console gamers didn't want the hassle of a mouse.
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GO THE NINTENDO! - NINTENDO ROCK.
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