NOW... The Revolution Controller Page 2

  • Angel_Treats 16 Sep 2005 08:14:56 11,070 posts
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    It just seems too gimmicky to me. I said the same thing when the DS was announced and as it turns out I wasn't even slightly impressed by the DS, I don't like the thing much at all. I have a feeling this will turn out the same for me.
  • Deleted user 16 September 2005 08:18:50
    As you all know im no Nintendo fan BUT this controller is something that could be revolutionary for the industry if the developers utlise it properly.

    It has the potential to really bring gaming to the masses!

    Imagine playing soul calibur with this!!

    I'll wait to see what the developers do with it though before getting to excited.

    MCM
  • Khab 16 Sep 2005 08:19:28 6,583 posts
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    Bill-Lumberg wrote:
    I think it's too dependent on multi-player, party-style games; this is a niche market. That thing would simply be too tiring to use for any length of time. I guess a fitness game would be good but Sony have beaten them to that with Kinetic.

    Yeah, the niche market of whatever Eyetoy and Singstar are selling... which is a pretty damn big slice of pie. Remember, Nintendo hasn't lost any money on making the GC, and I doubt they will on making the Rev either. Their goal in this generation isn't to compete with the PS3 on Sony's terms, they're certainly going for a completely different market.
  • SirScratchalot 16 Sep 2005 08:20:15 7,921 posts
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    /Is impressed by video....
    If itīs naff Iīll still have two very familiar next gen systems, If it rocks it migh just bring my beloved hobby forward.
    For me as a gamer it seems win-win.
  • phAge 16 Sep 2005 08:25:18 25,487 posts
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    If this works even half as well as advertised, I'm sold. Can't wait to show the girlf this.

    'Till now, I'd taken Nintys "gaming for the entire family"-advertising with a huge grain of salt, but it looks as if they've actually went and made exactly that!

    \o/
  • Deleted user 16 September 2005 08:27:43
    Bill-Lumberg wrote:
    Khab wrote:
    Bill-Lumberg wrote:
    I think it's too dependent on multi-player, party-style games; this is a niche market. That thing would simply be too tiring to use for any length of time. I guess a fitness game would be good but Sony have beaten them to that with Kinetic.

    Yeah, the niche market of whatever Eyetoy and Singstar are selling... which is a pretty damn big slice of pie. Remember, Nintendo hasn't lost any money on making the GC, and I doubt they will on making the Rev either. Their goal in this generation isn't to compete with the PS3 on Sony's terms, they're certainly going for a completely different market.
    Yes but EyeToy and SingStar are for an existing console that dominates the market. Mr Average isn't going to rush out and buy a whole new console just for the controller. And I can't see many 3rd party devs rushing to embrace this - if they can't be bothered to support the Cube why would they go to all this extra effort?

    They support the DS.

    If Joe average see's a game like Halo, Soul Calibur or PGA tour 2007 being played using that controller and the price of the console is no where near as steep as the other two next gen consoles, then I think they would go for it.

    I dont expect a sony fanboi to see this though :p

    MCM
  • SirScratchalot 16 Sep 2005 08:27:46 7,921 posts
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    rhythm wrote:
    /accepts award graciously

    Out of all the games for the DS, how many use the "revolutionary" screen in a way that could actually be classed as such? How many screen-using games would be just as easy (or easier) using any other control method? I love my DS to bits but forgive me if I sound a bit jaded about what I believe third parties will be able to get out of this.


    Never quite got the "revolutionary" talk of the touch screen. Itīs just an interface mate, itīs what you do with it.
    But for a list: All the games I own.
    Another code, Meteos and Kirby(Game of the year BTW! Beautiful) all use the touch screen to such an affect that I canīt imagine playing them without it.

    I once played FPS:s using only a keyboard so I guess mouse + KB isnīt really a revolution. Itīs just what made those games really "click" for me. Same thing with the touch-screen. And as long as third parties get one Ouendan out of it Iīll be happy. You know you can still buy the XB360 and PS3 right? The gaming you like isnīt going anywhere, but this could be something very exciting....

    I guess what Iīm saying is that right now it comes down to wether one thinks the glass is half empty or half full for the revo. Either way it should be seen as overflowing for gaming.
  • Blerk Moderator 16 Sep 2005 08:30:18 48,222 posts
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    What a stupid idea.

    "Revolution" my arse.
  • MikeD 16 Sep 2005 08:32:33 10,063 posts
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    Yeah, let's try to keep this friendly. I haven't seen any blatant fanboy behaviour just yet.


    Blerk, I thought you were practising your meh's. All meh'd out. Come on, we are waiting for it. :-)
  • Derblington 16 Sep 2005 08:34:28 35,161 posts
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    I don't like it. I don't like the fact they're removing the 'gaming look'. It reminds me of those crappy plug-ins for your tv :(

    And tbh, I don't know anyone who's going to think a game is easier to play using a normal remote than a gamepad. It may look 'familiar' but there's still buttons all over it and add-ons to use. It's all the buttons and sticks that confuse non-players now.

    /is very disappointed :'(

    I like the console in white tho.
  • spazmo 16 Sep 2005 08:34:43 2,838 posts
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    Let's just be thankful that there will be something different out there rather than *3* of the same thing. If you don't like Nintendo's offering then please choose a PS3 or XBox 360.
  • Deleted user 16 September 2005 08:36:20
    Bill-Lumberg wrote:
    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Bill-Lumberg wrote:
    Khab wrote:
    Bill-Lumberg wrote:
    I think it's too dependent on multi-player, party-style games; this is a niche market. That thing would simply be too tiring to use for any length of time. I guess a fitness game would be good but Sony have beaten them to that with Kinetic.

    Yeah, the niche market of whatever Eyetoy and Singstar are selling... which is a pretty damn big slice of pie. Remember, Nintendo hasn't lost any money on making the GC, and I doubt they will on making the Rev either. Their goal in this generation isn't to compete with the PS3 on Sony's terms, they're certainly going for a completely different market.
    Yes but EyeToy and SingStar are for an existing console that dominates the market. Mr Average isn't going to rush out and buy a whole new console just for the controller. And I can't see many 3rd party devs rushing to embrace this - if they can't be bothered to support the Cube why would they go to all this extra effort?

    They support the DS.

    If Joe average see's a game like Halo, Soul Calibur or PGA tour 2007 being played using that controller and the price of the console is no where near as steep as the other two next gen consoles, then I think they would go for it.

    I dont expect a sony fanboi to see this though :p

    MCM
    Why the hell am I a Sony fanboy? I'm sitting here salivating over when my GameBoy Micro is going to arrive! And I have a Cube which I bought on launch day. Can't we ever have a thread where that word isn't used?

    Heh, sorry, its just a slight dig from the first post I read from you. It's not related to this thread. Dont take it to heart...hence the :)

    Back on topic: How successful the Revolution is depends on the developers and what they do with this controller. Without the games the console just wont cut it. ( Most obvious statement of the day)

    MCM
  • Blerk Moderator 16 Sep 2005 08:37:01 48,222 posts
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    MikeD wrote:
    Blerk, I thought you were practising your meh's. All meh'd out. Come on, we are waiting for it. :-)
    It's too stupid for 'meh'. 'Meh' was reserved for 'gimmicky pointlessness'. This is just idiotic.
  • itamae 16 Sep 2005 08:38:54 10,213 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Imagine playing soul calibur with this!!
    /imagines

    Nope, won't work. Not at all. Now a new weapons-based fighting game without canned moves and character movement built around the Rev controller - that might just work. But I'm pretty sure Namco won't develop one.

    A game like Katamari Damacy on the other hand would be perfect to play with that TV remote thing.
  • pjmaybe 16 Sep 2005 08:38:55 70,666 posts
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    That's what we've been waiting for? A fucking Phillips CD-I controller? That's the revolution?!?!?!?!?!?!

    Well hats off to you Nintendo, I certainly didn't see that coming.

    All that potential, all the clever stuff they've done in the past and now we've got an OHP remote.

    Well that's well and truly got me wanting a Rev :)


    Peej
  • kdsh7 16 Sep 2005 08:40:56 1,273 posts
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    an awful lot of you seem to be judging it on what it looks like (a cheap sony remote) and not what it does!
  • Blerk Moderator 16 Sep 2005 08:41:19 48,222 posts
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    I've just watched the vid that's supposed to 'change my mind'. It didn't. It just reinforced the realisation that 99% of all games will need a standard controller plugged into the bottom of it.

    And is it just me, or is the Revolution now a very weird shape? What's with the whole 'sloping' thing?
  • UncleLou Moderator 16 Sep 2005 08:44:14 40,723 posts
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    I am rather surprised so many people have such a negative opinion already. You must certainly know more than is officially known yet. Why not give it a chance at least?

    I bet you lot, witnessing the invention of the wheel, would have said "Meh, it's crap, it doesn't have any corners!" ;)

    It might well turn out to be shit or under-used due to lack of support, but you have to lack creativity to see it's potential if you dismiss it immediately. IMHO. ;)
  • York 16 Sep 2005 08:44:15 8,667 posts
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    Given how revolutionary they said this would be, I'm glad they've done this rather than some tilt sensor or screen.

    Now to see what game developers do with it.
  • FairgroundTown 16 Sep 2005 08:56:11 2,522 posts
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    Well, it is certainly a "revolution" in the most literal sense - it looks like the control for the "Pong" TV game that my friend had in 1982.

    Sure is going to be interesting. After years of pretty-much the same thing (the N64 controller wasn't vastly different to the GC one, so that is, what, 8 years or more?) I'm really up for something new and different.
  • Whizzo 16 Sep 2005 08:57:39 44,810 posts
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    I think it could be quite useful for specific games that are built around it but you'd want to fall back to a standard style controller for most things.

    Watching the video just makes me wonder how much everyone's wrists are going to ache after a short while of playing around with it.

    Having used wireless 3D mice for presentation purposes it doesn't take long.
  • Teeth 16 Sep 2005 08:58:46 7,987 posts
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    Blerk, from day one the rev's been pictured with a sloping stand.
  • Deleted user 16 September 2005 08:59:43
    itamae wrote:
    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Imagine playing soul calibur with this!!
    /imagines

    Nope, won't work. Not at all. Now a new weapons-based fighting game without canned moves and character movement built around the Rev controller - that might just work. But I'm pretty sure Namco won't develop one.

    A game like Katamari Damacy on the other hand would be perfect to play with that TV remote thing.

    The Dreamcast fishing controller worked great with Soul calibur :)

    MCM
  • darrenb 16 Sep 2005 09:02:50 1,179 posts
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    The new controller seems as if it is bound to fail..

    If they had made it in cool black and put square, circle triangle and cross buttons on it they would have a massive hit on their hands and everyone would love it!!!
  • Blerk Moderator 16 Sep 2005 09:03:34 48,222 posts
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    Teeth wrote:
    Blerk, from day one the rev's been pictured with a sloping stand.
    Maybe I've just been looking at the wrong pictures, then. I was away for E3, remember. :-)

    Did they announce any more details about the machine itself? Or its games?
  • KingOfSpain 16 Sep 2005 09:03:58 5,344 posts
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    at first i was like....WTF......then i was like.........hhhhmmmm...............then i progressed......maybe.............now im like WOOT!!!
  • pjmaybe 16 Sep 2005 09:10:17 70,666 posts
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    As Lou sensibly said, it's too early to tell but hell it's not going to be any good AT ALL for games that require fine adjustment, or quick reactions between buttons. I think it'll be great for the next Wario game though...

    Ah well.

    Peej
  • bef 16 Sep 2005 09:12:06 1,766 posts
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    You can watch a webcast of Iwata here in an hour :

    Revo
  • Blerk Moderator 16 Sep 2005 09:12:41 48,222 posts
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    A quick showing of the vid to the 9 people currently in the office has produced these results:

    Amazing: 0
    Interesting: 0
    Stupid: 9

    I think Nintendo have some convincing to do. :-)
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