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Ecanem 24 Jul 2006 13:38:56 5,039 posts
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morriss wrote:
Looks great. You need testers? I'll gladly help.

Thx, yes we'll need testers - I'll keep you in mind! - got a gamepad with analogue stick for your pc? =)

morriss 24 Jul 2006 14:16:17 71,293 posts
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Ecanem wrote:

morriss wrote:
Looks great. You need testers? I'll gladly help.

Thx, yes we'll need testers - I'll keep you in mind! - got a gamepad with analogue stick for your pc? =)

Yep. I've got the Joytech 360 Gamepad.

Ecanem 28 Sep 2006 16:27:19 5,039 posts
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I'd like some input please.. How would you rate a club overall?

As usual we would like some help from our forumites and we're currently discussing a system that could be useful for deciding team ratings.

Team ratings will be used to tell how many 'points' a team will receive that will then be further distributed down to the footballers in each team, so that we would get a somewhat realistic version of how good a team is compared to another..

We've come up with a setup that collects the total amount of points a team has earned in the previous 5 seasons, and this is the score they got:

(2004-2005 - 2003-2004 - 2002-2003 - 2001-2002 - 2000-2001)

Arsenal: 83+90+67+87+70 = 397 pts
ManUtd: 77+75+83+77+80 = 392 pts
Chelsea: 95+79+78+64+61 = 377 pts
Liverpool: 58+60+64+80+69 = 331pts

Real Madrid: 80+70+78+66+80 = 374 pts
Barcelona: 84+77+56+64+63 = 344 pts
Deportivo: 51+71+72+68+73 = 335 pts
Valencia: 58+77+60+75+63 = 333 pts

With these results Real Madrid would be the strongest team in Spain, while Arsenal would be strongest in England.. Do you feel a system like this would give a fair representation of a teams current strength?

One issue is with a team like Chelsea that have invested heavily in the most recent seasons. Another is Internazionale that have replaced a lot of players also - and what about Juventus for example?

Keep in mind that WOF is not trying to emulate the real world of football as accurately as possible, but still we would like to have it not too far off, if you know what I mean..

Also, for the sake of keeping it simple, accolades earned in European Cups etc. isn't taken into consideration either.. - is this wrong? (Barcelona won the Champiions League for example and dominated their league also.. do they deserve extra points for this achievement?)

As for comparisons from one league to another (Premier League v Serie A for example) - another layer of calculations will be added - so these points we're discussing here does not reflect the strengths across borders, but only in domestic leagues..

We would love to hear if you have any thoughs on this - maybe you could apply this setup to your own leagues and see if the result seems 'fair'..?

Feel free to discuss it here or at the official WOF forum:

WOF forum discussion

Edited by Ecanem at 16:29:17 28-09-2006

Deleted user 28 September 2006 16:33:12

The weighting idea is a good one. Just so long as Utd are better than Liverpool. If not, then you'll know something has gone horrendously wrong

Ecanem 28 Sep 2006 16:35:24 5,039 posts
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Oh I forgot to add... it should be current + traditional rating.. so it shouldn't just be for the last few years.. if that makes sense..

Deleted user 28 September 2006 16:39:53

/fingers in ears

LA-LA-LA-LA-LA

I can't hear you furbs

LA-LA-LA-LA-LA

Ecanem 28 Sep 2006 17:14:22 5,039 posts
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Furbs wrote:
So you sort of have a "fixed" rating based on how successful they've been overall (ie Liverpool and Man U at the top) and thats combined with the calculation above you mean? Makes sense, especially when you consider the Juve situation.

Fozzie, you can tell Ecanem is a Man U fan, they've omitted European success in the last five years just so they can come out on top

Hehe, no european cup results are included because this system was intended to decide domestic 'strength' only..

Yes, it was the intention that the clubs should be represented both at current strenght but also traditionally.. - but it wouldn't be fixed in the game. The use is only for having settings when you first play a league season for example.. from then on everything would be dynamic if you play season after season etc..

TripSkyway 29 Sep 2006 04:34:08 2,584 posts
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Looks nice, I really like the character designs.

Ecanem 29 Sep 2006 10:39:07 5,039 posts
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Trip SkyWay wrote:
Looks nice, I really like the character designs.

Thx! =)

BlackCelebration wrote:
I am excited by real-time gwafikz!!

Uhm, aha.. cool! =)

Ecanem 8 Oct 2006 00:03:32 5,039 posts
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Here's a preview of the new-look menus..

match setup

lineup

(don't pay too much attention to the actual names or values.. I didn't bother finding the proper names but used the WXI Red and WXI Blue names instead)

Edited by Ecanem at 00:04:29 08-10-2006

Toonster 8 Oct 2006 00:05:28 6,930 posts
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Did somebody say football!?

morriss 8 Oct 2006 00:19:53 71,293 posts
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Ecanem wrote:
Here's a preview of the new-look menus..

match setup

lineup

(don't pay too much attention to the actual names or values.. I didn't bother finding the proper names but used the WXI Red and WXI Blue names instead)

Looking good. Love the layout. Can't wait to test it! .)

Ecanem 8 Oct 2006 11:50:47 5,039 posts
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Morris wrote:
Looking good. Love the layout. Can't wait to test it! .)

Thx! =)

BlackCelebration wrote:
I'm an idiot. I live in Wales. both of my parents are idiots too.

Go spam somewhere else please..

Edited by Ecanem at 11:51:27 08-10-2006

Ecanem 16 Oct 2006 22:04:20 5,039 posts
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Here's a new desktop image...

preview 600x480

Full sized versions can be found here:

800x640

1280x1024

Ecanem 16 Oct 2006 22:09:55 5,039 posts
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Here's a little preview of the facial expressions on the footballers.. Until now you've never seen the little buggers smile or anything so here's a chance now.. =)

Expression images at WOF forum..

Ecanem 16 Oct 2006 22:14:17 5,039 posts
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Mapster wrote:
/sends naughty text to Ecanem

/blushes

That's exactly right - the pose the footballer is in is just as he's released a shot - well spotted!

Ecanem 16 Oct 2006 22:17:34 5,039 posts
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Mapster wrote:
I smile like that every time I score

Obviously! =P

/sends naughty picture

Ecanem 17 Oct 2006 09:17:59 5,039 posts
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Mapster wrote:
Woah!

She takes it that way?

she?

/throws in the towel - let's keep this thread a bit more on topic.. =P

Ecanem 28 Dec 2006 02:06:07 5,039 posts
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Here's a preview of the new and (hopefully) improved team-line up screen..

640x480

1280x960

Ecanem 29 Dec 2006 19:33:21 5,039 posts
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Here's a preview of the new and improved control assignments screen..

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1280x960

manuel_garcia 29 Dec 2006 19:45:49 4,079 posts
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Dude this is looking pretty cool. In addition to Morriss, if you need any testing let me know, i'd be happy to oblige.

Analogue pad at the ready!

Ecanem 29 Dec 2006 19:58:47 5,039 posts
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Thx! =)

I'll post it here when we're ready for testers.. (sadly, its not just around the corner).

Ecanem 30 Dec 2006 22:01:38 5,039 posts
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Here's a preview of the match setup screen..

640x480

Ecanem 1 Jan 2007 20:01:02 5,039 posts
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Here's a preview of the edit kits screen..

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Ecanem 2 Jan 2007 23:05:36 5,039 posts
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Here's a preview of the Match GUI/OSD..

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[menace] 6 Apr 2007 00:12:40 2,414 posts
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Here's a couple of teaser images of the 'official' Kimera stadium 'Kimera Park'.. Near the end of the Easter holiday I hope to have a few more close-up shots for you showing a little more..

empty ground

full crowd

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