The Eurogamer HDTV Guide Page 189

  • Armoured_Bear 22 Nov 2018 23:04:09 24,977 posts
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    Black Friday just started here, 65B7 is 1320 quid, no c8 reduction so far.
    I had my heart set on C8 but that is tempting.
  • fontgeeksogood 22 Nov 2018 23:08:38 3,748 posts
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    The C8 has some very sexy, tight ports
  • fontgeeksogood 23 Nov 2018 08:45:39 3,748 posts
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    .....and it's £1499 at Richer Sounds today
  • AboutHalfaStevas 23 Nov 2018 10:42:12 1,182 posts
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    Bigger.
    I need to look into getting a new TV cabinet.
  • CosmicFuzz 23 Nov 2018 10:51:50 32,483 posts
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    Cracking price on the C8!
  • RawShark 23 Nov 2018 10:59:09 484 posts
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    Yep, that's a damned good price for the C8. Only a £200 swing between that and the B8 now. Had I held out longer I probably would have spent the extra £200 for the C8. But hey, it's still £200 saved on what is basically an incremental downgrade.
  • Derblington 23 Nov 2018 12:11:57 31,204 posts
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    I'm assuming that C8 is 55"?
  • CosmicFuzz 23 Nov 2018 12:13:29 32,483 posts
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    Yup.

    Also, the B7 is £1,099 according to the front page.
  • TheSaint 23 Nov 2018 12:17:23 18,152 posts
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    Keep an eye out on the prices if you've brought a TV already this week. Currys just refunded me £100 as John Lewis are now selling the TV even cheaper.
  • Armoured_Bear 23 Nov 2018 12:44:08 24,977 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    I'm assuming that C8 is 55"?
    I'm hoping that if I hold on a bit I'll get a 65" for that or slightly more here, here's hoping anyway!
  • AboutHalfaStevas 23 Nov 2018 12:51:06 1,182 posts
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    CosmicFuzz wrote:
    Yup.

    Also, the B7 is £1,099 according to the front page.
    FFS
  • greg_wha 23 Nov 2018 13:15:47 1,199 posts
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    AboutHalfaStevas wrote:
    CosmicFuzz wrote:
    Yup.

    Also, the B7 is £1,099 according to the front page.
    FFS
    Itís extended warranty free, though. £250 on top for a 5 year warranty.
  • Derblington 23 Nov 2018 13:27:02 31,204 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Derblington wrote:
    I'm assuming that C8 is 55"?
    I'm hoping that if I hold on a bit I'll get a 65" for that or slightly more here, here's hoping anyway!
    I've not seen the 65" C8 for less than £2200 equivalent - the extra size really bumps the value. I've actually seen the E8 going cheaper in one place, weirdly.
  • Armoured_Bear 23 Nov 2018 13:44:23 24,977 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Derblington wrote:
    I'm assuming that C8 is 55"?
    I'm hoping that if I hold on a bit I'll get a 65" for that or slightly more here, here's hoping anyway!
    I've not seen the 65" C8 for less than £2200 equivalent - the extra size really bumps the value. I've actually seen the E8 going cheaper in one place, weirdly.
    Best price here is CHF2300 (1800 quid), it should get closer to CHF2000 soon I hope, then Iíll bite.
  • Cpl.Hicks 24 Nov 2018 19:03:29 23 posts
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    MrE26 wrote:
    So Iím absolutely torn between an LG B8, a Q6FN or a Sony XF9005. Bearing in mind Iím upgrading from a 42Ē Panasonic Plasma (which is only 720p) I know all 3 will be a massive massive upgrade. My main concern with the OLED is the burn in issues & the brightness for HDR. Iíll be doing a lot of gaming on it & I donít wanna fuck up a £1200 tv.
    Not a direct comparison but Iíve just gone from a KS7000 to a C8 and itís a massive upgrade. Whilst technically not as bright as my old LCD itís more than bright enough and will certainly be much brighter than your plasma. Blacks are much better but the main thing I notice is the much better light control. No blooming, haloing etc which was just plain ugly at times.
  • Armoured_Bear 25 Nov 2018 23:18:04 24,977 posts
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    Bah, the only C8 Cyber Monday deal is for the 77" and 5 thousand quid is too rich for my blood.
    Hopefully in the January sales I'll get my cheapo 65 incher...
  • Benno 26 Nov 2018 08:53:33 11,716 posts
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    I went and bought the 65" B8. I couldn't find any compelling real-life reason to pay the extra £300 for the C8

    It's smashing so far, doesn't seem to have any banding or visual artefacts which is nice
  • Psiloc 26 Nov 2018 12:09:47 4,888 posts
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    Well based on this thread at least it seems that LG's bet on OLED has paid off. Glad you're all as impressed as I was. You wait until you get used to it, and then go round a mates house and look at their 'normal' LCD screen.

    My Dad has bought one of those LCDs with the individual backlight 'zones' that turn on and off and I absolutely hate it. It just makes the blooming more noticeable when it puts a bright square halo around any highlights in dark scenes. I actually think I prefer a normal backlight. I mean yeah, blacks show up as grey but I think I'd rather have the uniformity.
  • monkehhh 26 Nov 2018 12:41:28 5,019 posts
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    The in-laws were saying how nice the picture on my 5 year old LCD is.. I think I owe it to them to buy a 65" C8 and really blow their mind (and fiddle with / calibrate their bloody curved screen TV for them).
  • Buztafen 26 Nov 2018 15:14:14 17,459 posts
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    You're all making me extremely jealous with your new tv purchases. I've planted the seed of thought with the boss after showing her the shiny new tv's in our local Curry's/PC World but there's still work to be done. Still quite happy with my 9 year old 50 inch Panny V10 Plasma.

    Question, the plasma is wall mounted. Can i assume any new tv will fit the current mount if it supports VESA standards? If yes thats another box in the upgrade column ticked! :D
  • Psiloc 26 Nov 2018 16:16:34 4,888 posts
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    Yeah pretty sure VESA is still the standard
  • Armoured_Bear 26 Nov 2018 16:19:03 24,977 posts
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    I just realised that CES is in 6-7 weeks so the C8 should get a price drop then!
  • Psiloc 27 Nov 2018 10:46:07 4,888 posts
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    So shall we talk about burn in?

    I know that some users have had OLEDs since 2016 or earlier. Any signs of trouble?

    Asking because I saw image retention for the first time last night. The Cuphead tile was showing on my X1 dash (it has a yellow background) and after loading FH the silhouette of the tile remained for a few seconds. Completely gone now, but I did have to change my underwear.
  • AboutHalfaStevas 27 Nov 2018 11:08:32 1,182 posts
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    I had a plasma for years, and retention was just a regular thing which always cleared up after either running some option to "clear" the screen (in this case a monochrome gradient which slowly scanned across the screen), or just through watching some TV/movies. Is there an equivalent option on these fancy pants OLEDs?
  • fontgeeksogood 27 Nov 2018 11:11:32 3,748 posts
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    Psiloc wrote:
    So shall we talk about burn in?

    I know that some users have had OLEDs since 2016 or earlier. Any signs of trouble?

    Asking because I saw image retention for the first time last night. The Cuphead tile was showing on my X1 dash (it has a yellow background) and after loading FH the silhouette of the tile remained for a few seconds. Completely gone now, but I did have to change my underwear.
    Had mine since 2016. Nothing noticeable. Bought another last week
  • Technoishmatt 27 Nov 2018 13:58:00 2,975 posts
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    Here you go:

    https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test

    I think nothing to worry about.
  • oakie007 27 Nov 2018 16:22:20 272 posts
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    Benno wrote:
    I went and bought the 65" B8. I couldn't find any compelling real-life reason to pay the extra £300 for the C8

    It's smashing so far, doesn't seem to have any banding or visual artefacts which is nice
    Had mine 10 months now. It's an awesome beast of a TV.
  • ozthegweat 27 Nov 2018 19:50:38 2,092 posts
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    Psiloc wrote:
    So shall we talk about burn in?

    I know that some users have had OLEDs since 2016 or earlier. Any signs of trouble?

    Asking because I saw image retention for the first time last night. The Cuphead tile was showing on my X1 dash (it has a yellow background) and after loading FH the silhouette of the tile remained for a few seconds. Completely gone now, but I did have to change my underwear.
    I've had an E6 for two years now. I see retention every once in a while, e.g. from the Plex chevron on its app icon when I left the Apple TV on the home screen for a few minutes before launching Plex.

    The brighter you set your backlight, the more you'll see burn-in. That's why it'll be more noticeable with HDR.

    I've never seen burn-in with movies, TV shows or games, except for The Witness (those who know that game might have an idea why). And I haven't noticed any permanent burn-in. I think it's a non-issue.
  • Psiloc 29 Nov 2018 09:45:39 4,888 posts
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    I think it's one of those things where if you Google it, you hear a lot from a very, very vocal minority who have managed to burn their TVs. And not one of them admits to doing anything that could have caused it.

    From the RTINGS tests it really seems like live TV is the main offender, way more so than games. I mean, look what CNN has done to that TV as opposed to FIFA or COD. Based on this I've decided to repurpose the 'eco' picture mode on my Sky input and have it on 0 backlight. It's actually surprisingly watchable but I intend to switch back over to standard when I want the picture quality back. This gives me something I can do to be pro-active when I know I'm watching dangerous content, and if I leave it on eco when I'm out neither the wife nor daughter will think to switch it back, so I won't have the GMB or CBeebies logos burning a hole in it.

    I wonder why LG can't implement like a super smart screensaver that rather than detecting a totally static screen, detects static parts of the screen (channel logos, news tickers) and dim just those sections?
  • neems 29 Nov 2018 10:31:56 4,204 posts
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    Apparently some tvs do that, but it doesn't work very well.

    Somebody needs to sue a tv channel for damaging their screen, maybe they might stop putting those bloody logos in the corner.
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