The Eurogamer HDTV Guide Page 235

  • nickthegun 14 Jun 2020 12:05:41 87,712 posts
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    4) I’m assuming you mean PS4
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Jun 2020 12:08:02 23,013 posts
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    Little bit of an issue with both PS4 and Xbone. Like you say very hit and miss. Seems a constant fiddle between tv settings, console settings and game settings.

    Anyway cheers, at least it’s not just me.
  • Decks 14 Jun 2020 12:20:08 31,014 posts
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    It's very dependent on the game I find. Some of them look washed out no matter what you do (RDR2 for example) . But yeah the main thing is making sure you set the white point settings in the PS4 menu.

    Been playing Destiny 2 recently and it looks fantastic. Witcher 3 is also a good one to try, the sunsets look amazing.

    Don't forget to set it to game mode too as the automatic low input lag thing isn't supported on the PS4.

    Edited by Decks at 12:20:49 14-06-2020
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Jun 2020 12:24:07 23,013 posts
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    Yeah. Cheers.
  • Decks 14 Jun 2020 12:35:48 31,014 posts
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    Unrelated and I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere before but Apple TV has a pretty great selection of 4k HDR stuff to buy. Just picked Alien up for a fiver and it looks amazing with the deep blacks.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Jun 2020 13:06:07 23,013 posts
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    Assuming you have a 4K Apple TV of course.

    Do you have your Apple TV set to 4K 50hz or 60hz?
  • Decks 14 Jun 2020 13:10:27 31,014 posts
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    You can get the app through the TV. Bought a few things on there now, the quality is great.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Jun 2020 13:39:48 23,013 posts
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    On that subject while not the greatest film (not the worst either) Aquaman is by far the best demo I’ve found so far for the screen. Both super pretty and also completely fills the screen.
  • Derblington 14 Jun 2020 13:41:47 35,161 posts
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    Yeah, Aquaman has been used for the 8k demos.
  • Deleted user 14 June 2020 13:46:55
    @Decks It seems a lot better quality than Netflix. I've just watched a couple of episodes of See. Really impressive. Dolby Vision I think.
  • Decks 14 Jun 2020 13:48:57 31,014 posts
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    The 4k version of Seven Worlds is by far the most impressive thing I've seen on there. Looks like they've took it off iplayer now though unfortunately.
  • Switch-v85 14 Jun 2020 16:06:30 4,290 posts
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    Apocalypse Now is fantastic in 4K HDR, it’s this week’s essential film on Apple TV. You can get it for £3.99 but it goes back up in price tomorrow.

    Edited by Switch024 at 16:24:09 14-06-2020
  • Decks 14 Jun 2020 17:34:44 31,014 posts
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    Yeah I bought that too. Its a good idea to go on there every now and again to see what the weekly deals. I've got a decent little collection of 4k stuff building up now.
  • Switch-v85 14 Jun 2020 17:47:40 4,290 posts
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    Yeah I’ve bought loads, use an app called CheapCharts. It updates as soon as there’s new discounts, has loads of filters and and you can see price history for each film.
  • Fonzie 15 Jun 2020 00:22:34 3,492 posts
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    erasr wrote:
    There’s a 48” LG OLED?? Is it on par with the 55” C9 in terms of specs (relative to size)?

    55” is too big for my room. So a smaller one would be absolutely perfect.

    Can any TV expert let me know if it’s up there with the C9 and I’ll get it purchased. Cheers
    It's the LG CX, which is this years model. Last year's was the C9.
  • monkman76 15 Jun 2020 05:06:18 18,987 posts
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    Yes it’s comparable, wins in some areas and loses in others according to everyone’s favourite TV reviewer:

    https://youtu.be/FT5VK5YPTkc
  • Derblington 9 Jul 2020 12:38:29 35,161 posts
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    So, the time is approaching for my upgrade.

    I really want a CX but the thing that concerns me are reflections. The glass on the front of the LG OLEDs are like mirrors. I’ve just been looking at them in store and I can see myself in dark areas, and my living room is much brighter.

    It’s the single thing that still making me consider a Q95T QLED. The problem going this way is that in my head it feels like a compromise, despite thinking it’s probably the better choice for my room. I’m pretty confident that once it’s actually at home on the wall I’ll get over that but my heart has been set on the OLED for a couple of years so it would still suck a bit.

    Any advice from OLED owners on whether the reflections are an issue in actual use? I’m assuming games like TLoUpt2 or Resi, plus darker streaming content are going to cause problems when the sun’s out.

    Edited by Derblington at 12:38:52 09-07-2020

    Edited by Derblington at 12:39:51 09-07-2020

    Edited by Derblington at 12:40:07 09-07-2020
  • Dougs 9 Jul 2020 12:45:45 100,415 posts
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    S'what curtains and blinds are for innit. Not noticed it being an issue, save for the side light next to me (directly opposite) in the evenings, which catches the corner. But that was the same with my plasma. Unless the window is directly in front of the telly, it's not really an issue.
  • Decks 9 Jul 2020 12:52:20 31,014 posts
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    Seven worlds is back in 4k on iplayer if anyone is looking to spooge over their new TV.
  • Fourwisemen 9 Jul 2020 12:55:36 1,108 posts
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    @Derblington

    Hi Derbs. I recently got a C9 and it’s wall mounted about 3ft away from the living room window, side on, and I’ve not found it any worse than my previous LCD.

    Granted, in the evening when the sun comes round to the front and my windows are taller than typical so let’s loads of light in, I do find myself slightly closing a curtain but I did that previously anyway.

    I can take a few pictures from different angles if that’d help?
  • Derblington 9 Jul 2020 13:30:32 35,161 posts
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    @Fourwisemen
    I’d certainly be curious how it handles the light.

    My room has 3 large windows on a south facing wall, so I get light in most of the day. It has blinds in the windows but they aren’t blackout so it doesn’t do that much in terms of brightness, though it definitely helps reduce direct glare.

    It’s just that OLED glass panel gives such crisp reflections.
  • gamingdave 9 Jul 2020 13:35:55 5,087 posts
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    Reducing the glare and reflections is one thing. But OLEDs are best in a darkened room, that's where their contrast advantage is noticeable. If you are frequently not going to benefit from one of the main advantages the technology offers, then is it worth it?

    Posted some waffle a few months back when you first mentioned thinking an OLED might not be an option in your new place here (to save pasting it all again).
  • ozthegweat 9 Jul 2020 13:40:27 2,978 posts
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    @Derblington It can be an issue. We moved recently and haven't decided how to arrange the TV/couch area, so we were rotating by 45-90 degrees every week. Except for the setup where we were sitting with our backs against a wall with full-height windows and a glass door, that setup lasted only for a day as it was unwatchable. It didn't even have to be particularily bright outside. An overcast evening was enough.

    Window to the side or behind/same wall as the TV is fine, although on very bright days we have to lower the blinds. Dark levels in TLOU2 lead to many a game over otherwise. Not because of reflections, but because of insufficiently bright backlight.

    Edited by ozthegweat at 13:43:57 09-07-2020
  • Derblington 9 Jul 2020 13:47:56 35,161 posts
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    Yeah, I read your post at the time Dave. I appreciate the feedback and it’s something I’m aware of but I still think the overall pq is just better in general on the OLED despite not having optimal conditions, but I know the QLEDs are good.
    As I said at the time, I have the KS8000 so a Q95T will be an upgrade regardless.

    But a combination of an 8 vs 10bit panel, 3 more HDMI 2.1 ports, The LG OS and general PQ improvements mean I’d like to go that way if I can.
    Getting an extra 10” for the same price would be nice with the Samsung though, and their reflection handling is incredible.
  • gamingdave 9 Jul 2020 13:57:49 5,087 posts
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    I am sure whichever you go for it'll look amazing. And whilst you might not get the best out of the OLED some of the time, the quality is there for when winter rolls round.

    At the time I got mine, ports wasn't really an issue, but if the next gen machines need them, well, more is better.

    And yes, the Samsung OS is a bit shit. Snappy enough but everything seems in the wrong place and no quick shortcuts to the settings I use most often.
  • Fourwisemen 9 Jul 2020 14:01:11 1,108 posts
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    @Derblington


    Here you go bud, not the brightest day today, but let’s face it pretty typical for this fair country...

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0ysQhgUmZrQVjcmn3O5R_dkSw#Northwich_-_Winnington

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0NRkDsNtmcghuByC3A8Y0M63A#Northwich_-_Winnington

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0FVUsPRex_IiSMVt6MqH2iSOg#Northwich_-_Winnington

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/03hxUGNe-FBTdTAx6zjflvKew#Northwich_-_Winnington

    Couple of angles with screen on and off.

    For what it’s worth, and of course this is subjective, but after changing from a highly rated LG LED (5 years old) to the OLED I have found myself in a good few times just thinking ‘wow, that’s looks amazing’.

    Even the wife, as mentioned pages back I knew wouldn’t be happy I’d spent money on a TV said ‘erm, yeah, that does look really good’.

    It’s the uniformity of the brightness and image, and and a depth to the image that just wows.

    Your choice will be right for you, but I have zero regrets going to an OLED.
  • Derblington 9 Jul 2020 14:09:07 35,161 posts
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    @Fourwisemen
    Appreciated sir! With the screen on almost all of the issue seems to go away, which is good.
  • Derblington 9 Jul 2020 14:27:35 35,161 posts
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    ozthegweat wrote:
    Window to the side or behind/same wall as the TV is fine, although on very bright days we have to lower the blinds. Dark levels in TLOU2 lead to many a game over otherwise. Not because of reflections, but because of insufficiently bright backlight.
    This is the worry, really.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/06BzhPu2ZYhFzWXRNCLkUc8rw

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0HfBOa-3G3nhA6VQK69g2Dm6Q

    That’s my space (excuse the mess, I’m still getting it how I want it). The camera really doesn’t pick up the reflections I can see in person.
    When I’m watching tv during the day I can see myself in the screen (I’ve been working through Supernatural during coronapocalypse and that has a lot of nighttime scenes) and playing TLoU during the day, with the blinds properly closed, still gave me some issue in very dark spaces, which is why the OLED concerns me.

    Maybe it’ll be fine.
  • Dougs 9 Jul 2020 15:06:53 100,415 posts
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    I think you will soon overlook any issues due to the screen the rest of the times...
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