The Eurogamer HDTV Guide Page 249

  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Oct 2020 13:31:58 20,990 posts
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    3.5m from a 48Ē isnít small FFS. Wow. If anything itís still what most people would consider on the big side.
  • Phattso 2 Oct 2020 13:36:36 25,939 posts
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    The centre point of my living space (and entire life) is the booze cabinet and minibar. I don't want anything else taking away from the majesty of that (and me curled up atop it, naked, in a booze fuelled slumber).
  • Derblington 2 Oct 2020 13:41:06 34,075 posts
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    For general tv/movies, sure, but I'd need to move closer for gaming.
    I guess part of it is what you're used to - I had a 65" at that distance and I always sat closer.
    For smaller screens I'd need to be within 2m.
  • nickthegun 2 Oct 2020 13:41:32 83,331 posts
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    Dirt3 wrote:
    Phattso wrote:
    Just for the record: 48Ē isnít small. Itís really really really not. You guys just have a different calibration. :)

    Rule of TV's #1 : You can never have too big a TV.
    The second rule is that it takes less than 24hrs to get used to any sized TV.

    And 48 to think 'I should have gone bigger'.
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 14:04:46 16,816 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    3.5m from a 48Ē isnít small FFS. Wow. If anything itís still what most people would consider on the big side.
    I agree, but (without checking one of those charts) isn't that actually a little far to really notice 4K over 1080p at 48"?
  • spurslol 2 Oct 2020 14:20:03 493 posts
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    Those charts are designed to sell bigger TVs.
  • Phattso 2 Oct 2020 14:23:32 25,939 posts
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  • Blackmarsh63 2 Oct 2020 14:23:55 3,724 posts
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    Sponsored by Samsung :)

  • Phattso 2 Oct 2020 14:23:57 25,939 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Rule of TV's #1 : You can never have too big a TV.
    The second rule is that it takes less than 24hrs to get used to any sized TV.

    And 48 to think 'I should have gone bigger'.
    We've had a 40" Sony for the last five years. Picked up a cheap 50" Philips a few months back and that just feels too big for our needs. 48" with small bezels feels like the sweet spot. We do more in that space than just watch TV, so not having the room dominated by one is a massive plus for us.

    If I could find a projector that ticked all my boxes I'd genuinely consider that. Maybe in a few years. Those Samsung 4K short-throw units engorge me.
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 14:24:52 16,816 posts
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    spurslol wrote:
    Those charts are designed to sell bigger TVs.
    Yes but I said without. I don't think I could see the difference from 3.5m on a 48".
  • Dougs 2 Oct 2020 14:25:41 95,994 posts
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    How about installing a 55" on an extendable pivoting arm, so it can be pushed back out of the way when not in use? That was our original plan before I bought a TV too big for such a space. Whoops.
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 14:27:58 16,816 posts
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    Hm... That might work! Where might I read up on such a device?
  • Dougs 2 Oct 2020 14:35:13 95,994 posts
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    Here's one I prepared earlier.

    https://tvwallmount.co.uk/products/dq-reach-xxl-91-cm?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=4331585372231&pr_ref_pid=4331418681415&pr_seq=uniform
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 14:37:52 16,816 posts
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    Cheers. Heh, another 150 quid! Also the 55" doesn't get close to fitting into the alcove. Ah well.
  • Dougs 2 Oct 2020 14:39:29 95,994 posts
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    Ah, if it don't fit, can't do much about that. Except wall mount it on the chimney breast!

    Edit: that was £100 a few days ago when I found it. Cheeky fuckers.

    Edited by Dougs at 14:40:07 02-10-2020
  • Dirt3 2 Oct 2020 14:51:35 1,177 posts
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    Can't you re-engineer the alcove or is it supporting the upstairs ?

    I'm thinking 4lb sledge hammer.
  • Decks 2 Oct 2020 14:52:28 26,870 posts
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    How about you stand in the alcove and the TV can have the rest of the room?
  • Dirt3 2 Oct 2020 15:00:30 1,177 posts
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    That is just pure genius. It is so easy to miss the simple solutions.
  • Technoishmatt 2 Oct 2020 15:00:44 4,624 posts
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    Blackmarsh63 wrote:
    Sponsored by Samsung :)

    I think those are all wrong.

    I follow the THX certified distances which are generally shorter.

    48 inch screen the ideal viewing distance is 4.8 ft / 1.5m.

    I sit about 10 ft / 3m from our 92inch screen. It is perfect.
  • mrpon 2 Oct 2020 15:13:23 36,445 posts
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    Have you considered getting rid of the wife?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Oct 2020 15:15:13 20,990 posts
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    You canít see an IMAX screen from a mile away but that doesnít make it Ďsmallí.
  • Rum_Monkey 2 Oct 2020 15:21:57 1,455 posts
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    If I had to watch something on a 48" now it would be like watching a film on a plane.

    Size matters!
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2020 15:25:29 37,031 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    One_Vurfed_Gwrx wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    quadfather wrote:
    Can anyone recommend me a TV please, as I'm going to stick pins in my eyes in a minute trying to find a suitable one. These are the must haves -

    28". No bigger, no smaller.
    Gaming mode.
    Something preferably more than 5 watts per inbuilt speaker so I can actually hear it.

    You'd think a quick Google would get you that, but nooooo.


    Are you actually going to watch any TV on it? If not, youíd be best off with a monitor because I doubt anything that small will have a game mode.
    My son wants a TV for his room (mainly for a Switch) and I have had the same problem trying to decide what is going to be the best option. I have considered monitors too but bot sure if any have passable speakers (and also trying to keep this in a senaible budget). Hoping to pick what sort of thing we want and then wait and see if any BF sales on whatever we choose. Picking a big TV (bar budget) seems a much easier task.
    I eventually found one, that's hopefully being delivered today -


    LG 28TL510S 28" Smart HD Ready LED TV

    @Nick - yeah, a bit of normal telly/streaming and the odd dvd and a small amount of gaming. It doesn't need to be amazing as I will have a ps5 and a larger telly elsewhere, but I wanted a little area in the living room where I could do the above.

    Hopefully it'll work - I'll check it out later if it arrives today.
    Just a quick update on this LG telly I got - it's perfect. Movie mode is good, game mode is good. The sound wasn't bad, but I also put a 35 quid soundbar on it, and that makes it all round really good.
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 15:27:03 16,816 posts
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    @mrpon No. I definitely haven't. No no.
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2020 15:29:16 37,031 posts
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    Also, this hdmi 2.1 malarky - exactly when do I need to give a fuck about that? Because I'm buggered if I can afford to replace my current telly.
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 15:32:54 16,816 posts
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    If and when the new consoles (a) put out games that run at 4k at 120fps (i.e. not very often) or (b) put out games that don't quite hit 60fps (possibly more often). In that second case, the variable refresh rate on HDMI 2.1 should make it feel smoother. On a normal TV if a game is running at an inconsistent 40-50fps it'll feel a bit juddery.
  • Dougs 2 Oct 2020 15:33:01 95,994 posts
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    Ultimately I agree with Phattso, in theory at least. I didn't really want my living room being dominated by the size of telly. But at the same time, we don't use it for anything else. We and the kids watch a lot of films and tv, and I love it. Don't regret it at all. I even managed to play some games on it today. A proper rarity
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 15:33:43 16,816 posts
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    I think it's more of an edge case than we're being led to believe tbh.
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2020 15:46:47 37,031 posts
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    Hm, cheers Monkman - I'll sit back and watch the proceedings I reckon
  • monkman76 2 Oct 2020 15:52:25 16,816 posts
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    It also gives you auto low latency mode, which just means the TV knows if it's receiving a game or a film TV/show etc and switches game mode on or off automatically (even within one source, e.g. a console). Which I guess would be quite nice but hardly a showstopper.
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