The Eurogamer HDTV Guide Page 250

  • quadfather 2 Oct 2020 15:58:42 37,031 posts
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    Yeah, that's not really a factor when I can just press 1 button to achieve the same result, but still, I guess it's convenience.
  • Derblington 2 Oct 2020 15:59:28 34,075 posts
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    Upgrade the tv to upgrade the screen tech, I wouldn't worry about the HDMI stuff. Nice to have, for sure, but not a vital part of the gaming experience, despite what the marketing is telling you.
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2020 17:14:49 37,031 posts
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    Yeah, I think I can wait a while.

    Well, I've got no bloody choice anyway :)
  • tt_el_barto 2 Oct 2020 17:28:05 10 posts
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    Got the new TV setup, was pretty straight forward as @Derblington said. Haven't had a chance to play any games yet but 1917 looked awesome. Would recommend.
    https://imgur.com/a/dLNGhtH

    Edited by tt_el_barto at 17:28:41 02-10-2020
  • Technoishmatt 2 Oct 2020 17:42:12 4,624 posts
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    My 2019 Samsung has automatic low latency and variable refresh rate already.

    I think the only real thing about proper hdmi 2.1 is more that you cant do both higher frame rates and resolution without the increased bandwidth (which are ultimately also just TV limitations not really just HDMI - if your tv doesnt do 120fps, it doesnt do 120 fps.)
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2020 17:46:22 37,031 posts
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    Technoishmatt wrote:
    My 2019 Samsung has automatic low latency and variable refresh rate already.

    I think the only real thing about proper hdmi 2.1 is more that you cant do both higher frame rates and resolution without the increased bandwidth (which are ultimately also just TV limitations not really just HDMI - if your tv doesnt do 120fps, it doesnt do 120 fps.)
    Which 2019 Samsung have you got, out of interest?
  • Blackmarsh63 2 Oct 2020 17:51:19 3,724 posts
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    @quadfather If memory serves you have a 2016/17 Samsung which I had. It can hold it's own with most of the current models apart from the hdmi 2.1 business. Mine sadly gave up the ghost and had to replace it with an inferior 2019 model.
  • Technoishmatt 2 Oct 2020 19:35:34 4,624 posts
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    @quadfather 49 Q70R
  • Dougs 3 Oct 2020 08:30:49 95,995 posts
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    @monkman76

    Found the 48 here

    https://www.electronicworldtv.co.uk/48-lg-oled48cx6la-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-freeview-hd-smart-oled-tv-oled48cx6la?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwuD7BRDBARIsAK_5YhWUpc758owgfhJVu7Vy5qaGI_ryZNmIAc0ZRY9iqSbgqHb93hI31rQaAnMAEALw_wcB

    Can't comment on the site) company but worth keeping an eye on for if it comes back in stock.

    Edited by Dougs at 08:31:47 03-10-2020

    Edited by Dougs at 08:32:32 03-10-2020
  • monkman76 3 Oct 2020 08:57:04 16,816 posts
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    Nice, thanks! Would be hard to resist at that price.
  • Boriska 3 Oct 2020 09:05:20 907 posts
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    Not fully convinced that the PS5 will be taking advantage of 2.1 for a little while yet - probably not a terrible idea to wait a year or two and see what OLEDs Sony/LG/Panasonic are producing - I think Samsung are focusing on OLEDs from next year too. Hopefully they can fix the stutter/judder on panning shots in 24p/30FPS material.
  • Dirt3 3 Oct 2020 12:13:00 1,178 posts
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    Boriska wrote:
    Not fully convinced that the PS5 will be taking advantage of 2.1 for a little while yet - probably not a terrible idea to wait a year or two and see what OLEDs Sony/LG/Panasonic are producing - I think Samsung are focusing on OLEDs from next year too. Hopefully they can fix the stutter/judder on panning shots in 24p/30FPS material.
    It's about future proofing though isn't it ?

    My guess is the LG will future proof you for at least 5 years and will probably be a great telly for about 10 provided it doesn't go pop.

    Sure you can wait a couple of years, but you don't get the use of it during that time.

    I think the only good thing about waiting is that the sets should get comparitively cheaper. If Samsung are going to hit the OLED marketplace as a panel maker then in 3 years time we should be looking at some significant price reductions. Whether or not those price reductions compensate you for the few years of not having a tv, well thats a personal choice.
  • quadfather 3 Oct 2020 12:23:21 37,031 posts
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    Blackmarsh63 wrote:
    @quadfather If memory serves you have a 2016/17 Samsung which I had. It can hold it's own with most of the current models apart from the hdmi 2.1 business. Mine sadly gave up the ghost and had to replace it with an inferior 2019 model.
    I can't remember the year, but it's the ks9000 one. It's been absolutely brilliant since day 1. Sorry to hear you're croaked
  • quadfather 3 Oct 2020 12:23:43 37,031 posts
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    Technoishmatt wrote:
    @quadfather 49 Q70R
    Gotcha, few years newer than mine.

    Time flies
  • Derblington 3 Oct 2020 12:42:40 34,075 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    Blackmarsh63 wrote:
    @quadfather If memory serves you have a 2016/17 Samsung which I had. It can hold it's own with most of the current models apart from the hdmi 2.1 business. Mine sadly gave up the ghost and had to replace it with an inferior 2019 model.
    I can't remember the year, but it's the ks9000 one. It's been absolutely brilliant since day 1. Sorry to hear you're croaked
    2016. Itís the TV I just replaced.
  • Derblington 3 Oct 2020 12:45:12 34,075 posts
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    Dirt3 wrote:
    Boriska wrote:
    Not fully convinced that the PS5 will be taking advantage of 2.1 for a little while yet - probably not a terrible idea to wait a year or two and see what OLEDs Sony/LG/Panasonic are producing - I think Samsung are focusing on OLEDs from next year too. Hopefully they can fix the stutter/judder on panning shots in 24p/30FPS material.
    It's about future proofing though isn't it ?

    My guess is the LG will future proof you for at least 5 years and will probably be a great telly for about 10 provided it doesn't go pop.

    Sure you can wait a couple of years, but you don't get the use of it during that time.

    I think the only good thing about waiting is that the sets should get comparitively cheaper. If Samsung are going to hit the OLED marketplace as a panel maker then in 3 years time we should be looking at some significant price reductions. Whether or not those price reductions compensate you for the few years of not having a tv, well thats a personal choice.
    The VIsio OLED this year is already doing it, Samsung are late to that party. In 5 years OLED will be incredibly affordable, but theyíll also have been replaced with QNED and QD-OLED and Micro LED sets being the top-end stuff. The market will just shift.
  • PierrePressure 3 Oct 2020 14:52:46 1,184 posts
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    I'm sure this has been answered before but just how common is screen burn with the OLED? Waiting for Black Friday before I purchase the LG 55" CX and I've just heard 1 or 2 scare stories that are making me hesitate. I spend quite a bit of time on the playstation and switch as well as binge watching various shows and just thinking of the HUD from various games being burnt into the screen is enough to bring me to tears.
  • Dougs 3 Oct 2020 15:05:00 95,995 posts
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    As long as you switch content regularly, you'll be fine. It's got a screensaver that kicks in should you leave it on whilst using an onboard app.
  • ozthegweat 3 Oct 2020 15:08:12 2,677 posts
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    @Derblington Visio produces their own panels? Didn't know that.
  • Blackmarsh63 3 Oct 2020 15:11:05 3,724 posts
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    My C9 is split between gaming football and movies and I've had zero issues so far. I was initially put off by the scare stories same as yourself but I just watch it now and enjoy it. As has been already said the recent OLED's have various safeguards to minimise the burn-in issues.
  • Derblington 3 Oct 2020 15:11:43 34,075 posts
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    The wors offenders seem to be news tickers and sports broadcasts (due to the team/score displays). Games donít seem too be too bad other than sports titles, though it depends on the UI. White/light UI is worse.

    But itís cumulative, so leaving something on for a few hours in isolation isnít going to hurt it. Put all the on-board preventative measures on, and make sure you set the screen saver/dimmer (whatever itís called) on the consoles on too. Thatís what Iíve done.

    Iím not overly concerned, though if you have kids that smash 15 hours of YouTube or cartoon channels a day that may be different. A mate of mine is plumping for a QLED because of the kids, despite wanting a CX for himself.
  • Derblington 3 Oct 2020 15:13:29 34,075 posts
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    No, theyíre LG panels but theyíre undercutting everyone on pricing anyway.
  • PierrePressure 3 Oct 2020 15:18:15 1,184 posts
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    Think I'm just gonna bite the bullet, I've got accidental damage cover under the house insurance so it could always develop a little mishap should screen burn ever set in...
  • Blackmarsh63 3 Oct 2020 15:21:06 3,724 posts
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    @PierrePressure LG have been known to change a screen due to burn-in and some retailers include burn-in with their warranties. I think John Lewis do it for a few quid extra.
  • Hiphopopotamus 3 Oct 2020 17:51:36 136 posts
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    Iíve had an LG B7 OLED for 2 years and I donít have any trouble. Donít turn it off at the mains, put it in standby. It does stuff by itself to help reduce risk of burn etc.
  • Flying_Pig 6 Oct 2020 23:47:01 16,716 posts
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    My LG CX 55 arrived today - not had chance to unbox it yet, but it looks huge already!

    Can't wait to play WipeOut Omega on it!
  • Derblington 7 Oct 2020 00:21:45 34,075 posts
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    WipEout is a good shout. I have so many games I still want to try on it (top of the list is Hollow Knight) but the new console release is going to delay them even longer.
  • ibenam 7 Oct 2020 00:23:36 3,321 posts
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    Thinking of shifting my 55 incher as its in the last year of warranty next month.

    Probably looking to move up to a 65 incher and sticking with Samsung. Is there a 'best' oled that Samsung do?
  • monkman76 7 Oct 2020 08:06:30 16,816 posts
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    Samsung don't do OLED, they do QLED (which is just LED/LCD really). Their flagship this year is an 8K set I think. Q95T might be their top-end 4K TV?
  • Derblington 7 Oct 2020 08:39:48 34,075 posts
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    Q90T / Q95T is the top end 4K, yeah. Same set, latter with the one-connect box, and has reviewed better than the 8K sets across the board.

    8K is still a bit too early to be a serious consideration, imo.
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