The Eurogamer HDTV Guide Page 259

  • Derblington 26 Oct 2020 10:44:53 34,293 posts
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    @ozthegweat

    Does your model have the pixel shift, etc, or did that stuff get introduced in later models?
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 10:58:31 2,708 posts
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    Yeah yeah, I know it wasn't 45 min. per day... but in my defense I said "average" 🙃

    Still wouldn't have happened on an LCD.
  • Phattso 26 Oct 2020 11:00:05 26,294 posts
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    Indeed. Were the inky blacks worth it? :)
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 11:02:46 2,708 posts
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    @Derblington Yes the E6 has Pixel Shift (which has been turned on from the day I got it), but not the new automatic logo detection ("Logo Luminance Adjustment"). I also manually ran the "clear pixel noise" thing multiple times, to no avail.
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 11:06:54 2,708 posts
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    Phattso wrote:
    Indeed. Were the inky blacks worth it? :)
    Hell yes. I really enjoyed "The Darkness" 😉
  • Phattso 26 Oct 2020 11:09:26 26,294 posts
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    Excellent. As a recovered Destiny addict thinking of getting back in the saddle, I just needed to know that it'll be worth it to wreck the screen of a 1500 purchase. :D
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 11:47:44 2,708 posts
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    I might come around to looking at it like it's a "consumable" item. You get 4 years and thousands of hours of top-notch entertainment out of it, and then you need to get a new one.
  • monkman76 26 Oct 2020 11:47:54 17,299 posts
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    coughlcdcough
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 11:54:21 2,708 posts
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    Here are two pictures of what that burn in looks like (that thin strip in the bottom left corner):



  • mrpon 26 Oct 2020 12:09:57 36,579 posts
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    It's a schooner!
  • Zerobob 26 Oct 2020 12:12:01 2,656 posts
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    I'm not sure I could live with that, unless it's practically invisible during normal use.

    Do the standard John Lewis / Richer Sound guarantees cover burn in? It seems like you have to take out the additional cover for it to be covered.
  • Decks 26 Oct 2020 12:13:10 27,688 posts
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    ozthegweat wrote:
    Yeah yeah, I know it wasn't 45 min. per day... but in my defense I said "average" 🙃

    Still wouldn't have happened on an LCD.
    Yeah bit then you'd have to have and LCD. You might as well just die.
  • monkman76 26 Oct 2020 12:19:20 17,299 posts
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    It's a beautiful death though. Really bright light.
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 12:23:02 2,708 posts
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    Zerobob wrote:
    I'm not sure I could live with that, unless it's practically invisible during normal use.

    Do the standard John Lewis / Richer Sound guarantees cover burn in? It seems like you have to take out the additional cover for it to be covered.
    Well I'm very picky, and I know it's there, so I can see it every now and then during normal use.

    And no, it's not covered by the warranty.
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 12:24:30 2,708 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    ozthegweat wrote:
    Yeah yeah, I know it wasn't 45 min. per day... but in my defense I said "average" 🙃

    Still wouldn't have happened on an LCD.
    Yeah bit then you'd have to have and LCD. You might as well just die.
    True, and then you'd also die rich, which according to popular opinion is not something you want.
  • anephric 26 Oct 2020 12:32:48 4,569 posts
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    I think you're in for a fight getting burn-in covered under standard warranty. LG were offering panel swap-outs for not too much on older models, but anything with the newer screen protection features...

    I think only John Lewis cover burn-in and only if you buy their additional insurance.
  • Zerobob 26 Oct 2020 12:34:03 2,656 posts
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    Oh god, I'm in the middle of a u-turn on my Sony LCD being delivered today. I've convinced myself I could probably fit the 48" LG OLED in my front room alcove. Pricey though, susceptible the to burn-in, and doesn't even have UK catch up. What am I doing?
  • monkman76 26 Oct 2020 12:34:36 17,299 posts
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  • monkman76 26 Oct 2020 12:34:53 17,299 posts
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    anephric wrote:
    I think you're in for a fight getting burn-in covered under standard warranty. LG were offering panel swap-outs for not too much on older models, but anything with the newer screen protection features...

    I think only John Lewis cover burn-in and only if you buy their additional insurance.
    Sounds like a nightmare to be honest.
  • monkman76 26 Oct 2020 12:36:18 17,299 posts
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    Zerobob wrote:
    Oh god, I'm in the middle of a u-turn on my Sony LCD being delivered today. I've convinced myself I could probably fit the 48" LG OLED in my front room alcove. Pricey though, susceptible the to burn-in, and doesn't even have UK catch up. What am I doing?
    Despite everything I've said, if you've got the cash and it'll fit I'd go for it. It'll wipe the floor with the edge-lit LCD and they'll surely add UK catch-up stuff sooner rather than later.
  • anephric 26 Oct 2020 12:42:32 4,569 posts
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    I think for gaming I just wouldn't risk it and go for an XH90. For general use I might still have been swayed by an OLED but with my missus leaving stuff paused on catch-up for ages etc and my memories of babysitting my plasma for months, meh I just couldn't be bothered. Certainly not for something costing a grand plus.
  • monkman76 26 Oct 2020 12:43:36 17,299 posts
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    XH90 is too big (min 55") and the XH95 presumably is too as it's 49" not 48".
  • Derblington 26 Oct 2020 12:46:19 34,293 posts
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    Just set everything to have a screen saver turned on. All the in-built apps do it by default, and the consoles have the option.
    There are two things that may cause it for me - Spotify via the AV and Apex, as I play for 5-15 hours a week in 1-4 hour sittings.

    With Spotify, once I've got it set up (through my iPad) I just turn the tv screen off.
    Apex doesn't really worry too much but I'll keep an eye on it. The newer screens have better protections.
  • Decks 26 Oct 2020 12:47:55 27,688 posts
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    anephric wrote:
    I think for gaming I just wouldn't risk it and go for an XH90. For general use I might still have been swayed by an OLED but with my missus leaving stuff paused on catch-up for ages etc and my memories of babysitting my plasma for months, meh I just couldn't be bothered. Certainly not for something costing a grand plus.
    A screensaver comes on very quickly when leaving anything paused on. The risk of burn in on the newer OLED's is blown way out of proportion.
  • Zerobob 26 Oct 2020 12:48:00 2,656 posts
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    monkman76 wrote:
    Zerobob wrote:
    Oh god, I'm in the middle of a u-turn on my Sony LCD being delivered today. I've convinced myself I could probably fit the 48" LG OLED in my front room alcove. Pricey though, susceptible the to burn-in, and doesn't even have UK catch up. What am I doing?
    Despite everything I've said, if you've got the cash and it'll fit I'd go for it. It'll wipe the floor with the edge-lit LCD and they'll surely add UK catch-up stuff sooner rather than later.
    Yeah OLED tech just makes more sense and it'd be nice to have proper HDR and VRR with the new consoles. I recon at an angle and a bit of tinkering with the position a 48" would just fit in the alcove.

    Only problem is... I've been told the LG OLED is out of stock till Tuesday, and the 100 eGift promotion ends Monday! How annoying.

    Looks like I'll be waiting for a Black Friday deal on the LG OLED.
  • ozthegweat 26 Oct 2020 12:59:34 2,708 posts
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    Zerobob wrote:
    Oh god, I'm in the middle of a u-turn on my Sony LCD being delivered today. I've convinced myself I could probably fit the 48" LG OLED in my front room alcove. Pricey though, susceptible the to burn-in, and doesn't even have UK catch up. What am I doing?
    If you're not using it for stuff that displays the same static elements for many many hours on end, I wouldn't worry about burn in. E. g. if you're watching the same TV channel for multiple consecutive hours every day, it might be a problem, but then again, the current models have more resistant subpixels and software algorithms that lower brightness specifically on static elements.
  • Zerobob 26 Oct 2020 13:19:27 2,656 posts
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    I can't see there being static elements on the screen for any period of time, unless I really get into a game like Cyberpunk I suppose. Hard to say. I don't really do long gaming sessions anymore.

    I've not been gaming much over the summer apart from on my Switch, so unless I pick up one of the new consoles fairly soon, I imagine I'll be using it mainly for TV and films.

    Incidentally, are OLED phone screens not equally as susceptible to burn-in as TV screens? My last 2 phones have had OLED screens with plenty of static on-screen elements and I've never had burn-in issues, although the longest uninterrupted period I look at a phone screen for is probably around an hour.

    Edited by Zerobob at 13:22:54 26-10-2020
  • Decks 26 Oct 2020 14:18:04 27,688 posts
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    Burn in is a conspiracy theory cooked up by people with shitty alcoves that can't fit a proper TV in them.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 26 Oct 2020 14:29:17 33,394 posts
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    It's got the fingerprints of Big Alcove all over it.
  • mrpon 26 Oct 2020 14:29:56 36,579 posts
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