The Eurogamer HDTV Guide Page 289

  • lordofthedunce 18 Apr 2021 14:07:43 744 posts
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    Surely something second hand coupled with a chromecast would work? Rather than having the smart features on board.
  • Dougs 18 Apr 2021 14:18:10 99,139 posts
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    Or a Firestick
  • Psiloc 18 Apr 2021 14:21:22 6,168 posts
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    That's a fair point.

    Ok so same thing but smart features not necessary.

    Not sure about second hand... don't these things wear out?
  • grey_matters 18 Apr 2021 14:27:01 5,455 posts
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    Whatever the current budget Optoma HD projector should be good. Usually between £380-£480 depending on what sales are on.

    Kinda risky in a conservatory though. Can you borrow one from someone to see if it's feasible?

    Edit: Optoma HD146X is 485 on amazon. And out of stock.

    Edited by grey_matters at 14:29:51 18-04-2021
  • Blackmarsh63 18 Apr 2021 14:27:31 4,119 posts
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    Bulbs/lamps are a bit expensive in my experience.
  • Dougs 18 Apr 2021 14:28:19 99,139 posts
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    https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-CineBeam-PF50KS-1920x1080-lumen/dp/B07H5M25N8?&tag=experevi-21&ascsubtag=1412340
  • Dougs 18 Apr 2021 14:28:51 99,139 posts
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    https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/projectors/1412340/best-cheap-projector
  • anephric 18 Apr 2021 14:36:37 5,000 posts
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    Wolf of Wall Street UV code, if anyone wants it.

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  • richardiox 18 Apr 2021 18:24:24 9,699 posts
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    One thing I didn't think I'd appreciate so much when getting my CX last month was VRR on the Series X.

    Played some Minecraft with the kid and thought it must have had a SX patch as was running at a locked 60fps when previously (if he spawned too many dinosaurs) it would be in the 45-55 range.

    Night after playing Cyberpunk for a couple hours and didn't notice it drop a frame once. Finally twigged it must have been the VRR and then was quietly impressed at what a different maker it is.

    Hoping Resident Evil 8 raytracing mode gets a nice smoothing of that 45fps limit - and looking forward to Sony enabling it on PS5 (ridiculous it wasn't there for launch really)
  • PierrePressure 18 Apr 2021 18:41:05 1,404 posts
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    Is it something that Sony can fix in an update?
  • monkman76 18 Apr 2021 18:48:02 18,583 posts
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    Frankly, as an owner of a new but non-VRR TV, I really hope developers don't start using it as a crutch instead of properly optimising their games at 60fps.
  • Cpl.Hicks 18 Apr 2021 20:44:37 105 posts
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    @richardiox itís great isnít it? I got my CX a little before the series X release so gave it a try on Wolfenstein 2 on my one x with the dynamic res turned off and couldnít believe the difference. Juddering just vanished.

    I will say Iím sceptical that itíll be the perfect solution to that 45 average FPS on resi 8 though. If itís wildly fluctuating thatís when the CX will start to experience near black flickering. Which is only really visible in dark games but I assume resi will probably be quite dark....

    Edited by Cpl.Hicks at 20:45:11 18-04-2021
  • Cpl.Hicks 18 Apr 2021 20:48:16 105 posts
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    @PierrePressure they say they will add it, but no date given. Itís also missing from their HDMI 2.1 TVs currently so Iím not sure what the hold up is.
  • Zerobob 19 Apr 2021 09:23:43 2,939 posts
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    I really thought Sony would have added VRR support 5 months after release. It's bizarre we're still waiting for it, given the Xbox Series has had it since launch.
  • richardiox 19 Apr 2021 09:40:23 9,699 posts
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    I can't fathom what technical limitation could be holding it back to be honest. Why is it so hard/expensive/time consuming to patch the feature in. The fact they still haven't added it to their TV range makes me worry it'll never happen, which would be a real shame as it's a great feature for gaming.
  • Zerobob 19 Apr 2021 10:59:09 2,939 posts
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    @richardiox Yes, the fact their TVs don't support it is what make me worry we'll never see it. Their TV support for 120fps has issues too. It's as if there's a technical limitation holding them back.
  • Gibroon 19 Apr 2021 11:13:42 2,558 posts
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    @richardiox

    Although I would like VRR on my tv, I think its a bit of a get out clause for some publishers who don't release games with a stable framerate. We've already seen games that have a locked 30 or 60 fps. There should be no excuses for not optimizing the game to fit these modes.
  • Phattso 19 Apr 2021 11:30:06 27,101 posts
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    @Gibroon Nah - the lack of VRR for all these years hasn't stopped them pumping out unoptimised shite whenever they felt like it. At least now there's a way to make the best of it.
  • richardiox 19 Apr 2021 11:51:53 9,699 posts
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    @Gibroon

    Totally disagree. Honestly don't thing the (very low) prevailance of VRR displays factors in at all when Devs release games that aren't locked to their target frame rate. It's been happening for 15 years longer than VRR has been about.

    And there's lots of reasons why not all games lock to 30/60... different engines, developing for multi platform, time and cost pressures, developer ambition.
  • Zerobob 19 Apr 2021 12:03:05 2,939 posts
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    @Gibroon As has already been said, there's little incentive for developers and publishers to optimise their games, so they won't.

    Games are so complex now, that fine-grained optimisation of game engines is becoming harder and harder, especially engines that aren't developed in-house and therefore aren't fully understood.

    Joe Public probably doesn't care about inconsistent frame rates, and even if they do (and I almost hate saying this) what choice do they have but to play the game anyway? Inconsistent frame rates didn't stop me playing and enjoying The Witcher 3 on PS4, for example.

    If there's a one-stop solution to achieve consistent frame rates, that alleviates the increasingly heavy burden on developers, then I'm all for it.
  • Psiloc 19 Apr 2021 15:31:27 6,168 posts
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    Psiloc wrote:
    Can anyone recommend a cheap projector, talking like £400 but it needs smart features (netflix, YouTube etc.)

    Not too bothered about quality as it's like going to be like the third priority entertainment but I don't want it to break down after five minutes either. I'd prefer a known brand I guess.

    It's going in a conservatory but I'm willing to accept that it just won't work in daylight. Also, there's going to be quite a short throw of like 2 to 3 metres or so.

    Thanks bastards
    Is this any good:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Epson-EH-TW740-Lumens-Display-Projector/dp/B08KXZ5CPY/ref=psdc_10392531_t4_B07QQSNRPS?th=1
  • Dirt3 19 Apr 2021 16:06:41 1,625 posts
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    Don't see many comments on here re the new C14.

    Has anyone got one of these yet ?
  • robthehermit 19 Apr 2021 16:19:08 8,420 posts
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    @Psiloc No idea, but the reviews say the speaker is crap and there are no audio out options.
  • StixxUK 25 Apr 2021 20:30:43 8,647 posts
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    How close to the telly do you have to sit for 4k to be worth it with a 55 incher?

    Probably time to upgrade now I've got a Series X, but 65 is a bit of a step in price...
  • Psiloc 25 Apr 2021 21:07:54 6,168 posts
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    robthehermit wrote:
    @Psiloc No idea, but the reviews say the speaker is crap and there are no audio out options.
    I risked it, and there is 3.5mm audio out on the home model
  • PatrickEwing 25 Apr 2021 22:38:33 2,532 posts
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    Shit on it!
    Wall mounted Panasonic GZ950b oled, 8 year old on the Quest 2 vr, takes a swing at something and puts a small screen crack in bottom left corner.
    Blacks are better than ever now, anyone any experience of if itís even worth bothering looking into repairs?
    I was looking for an excuse to go up to 65Ē so there is a silver lining.
  • Trendyninja 26 Apr 2021 08:18:08 224 posts
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    @PatrickEwing What?
  • richardiox 26 Apr 2021 08:29:31 9,699 posts
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    Trendyninja wrote:
    @PatrickEwing What?
    His kid dun fucked up his OLED
  • Trendyninja 26 Apr 2021 08:40:56 224 posts
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    @richardiox Ah, thank you.
  • Zerobob 26 Apr 2021 09:00:15 2,939 posts
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    @StixxUK There are lots of guides online. Of course it'll come down to how good your eyesight is. This is one of the first diagrams I found when I googled it:



    I'd say, if you have the space and don't mind the TV being the focal point, dominating the room, get the biggest you can. Unfortunately I was limited to a 48" OLED due to space, but then I'm sitting quite close anyway.

    It amuses me when I see tech reviewers online who fork out for a fancy 65" but have a huge living space, to they put the sofa 4-5m away from the TV. I'm not sure what the point of that is.
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