Copy Protection crashes iTunes? • Non-Gaming • Apple, Mac, and iPod • Eurogamer.net

morriss 25 Oct 2005 01:11:15 71,293 posts
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I'm trying to put my CD's on to my Nano and iTunes keeps on crashing. I thought it must be copy protection, so I tried ripping the CD's with WM and couldn't so I feel I must be right.

My problem is, it can't be right that Apple or the indusrty (isn't quit sure where the finger should be pointing) expect you to buy a piece of music twice - one for the iPod, one CD.

Or is it something completely different...?

Edited by morriss at 01:15:19 25-10-2005

deem 25 Oct 2005 07:48:46 31,667 posts
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brokenkey 25 Oct 2005 10:33:58 11,128 posts
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morriss wrote:
I'm trying to put my CD's on to my Nano and iTunes keeps on crashing. I thought it must be copy protection, so I tried ripping the CD's with WM and couldn't so I feel I must be right.

My problem is, it can't be right that Apple or the indusrty (isn't quit sure where the finger should be pointing) expect you to buy a piece of music twice - one for the iPod, one CD.

Or is it something completely different...?

Edited by morriss at 01:15:19 25-10-2005

No, you are exactly right, they do want you to pay for music twice. Deem has the answer though, buy all your music from itunes and then burn it to CD, rather than the other way round.

Teeth 25 Oct 2005 10:36:39 7,987 posts
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Yes, because what you really want is compressed music burned to a CDR. Far better than having the full uncompressed version with a sleeve and liner notes with an official CD print.

brokenkey 25 Oct 2005 10:42:12 11,128 posts
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Teeth wrote:
Yes, because what you really want is compressed music burned to a CDR. Far better than having the full uncompressed version with a sleeve and liner notes with an official CD print.

Well of course, in an ideal world you'd either have enough money to buy both, or CDs would be released without copy protection.

Unfortunately, we haven't all won the lottery, and it isn't 1998 any more.

Edited by brokenkey at 10:46:18 25-10-2005

Teeth 25 Oct 2005 10:44:57 7,987 posts
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You can.

Run winamp, and use the output to wav function, then convert to MP3.

brokenkey 25 Oct 2005 10:45:14 11,128 posts
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Easy - start up Sound recorder, play midi file, record via Sound recorder, save .wav file, convert to MP3.

Teeth 25 Oct 2005 10:45:48 7,987 posts
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brokenkey wrote:

Teeth wrote:
Yes, because what you really want is compressed music burned to a CDR. Far better than having the full uncompressed version with a sleeve and liner notes with an official CD print.

Well of course, in an ideal world you'd either have enough money to buy both, or CDs would be released without copy protection.

Unfortunately, we haven't all won the lottery, and it isn't 1998 any more.

Edited by brokenkey at 10:46:18 25-10-2005

In that case he could record the music through a soundcard and then MP3 it...?

Teeth 25 Oct 2005 10:48:10 7,987 posts
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Use winamp, write to wav, it's faster than sound recorder.

Teeth 25 Oct 2005 10:48:40 7,987 posts
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good call.

jellyhead 25 Oct 2005 10:49:13 24,356 posts
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blizeH wrote:

brokenkey wrote:
Easy - start up Sound recorder, play midi file, record via Sound recorder, save .wav file, convert to MP3.
Holy jesus, that'll take ages ;(
I used flashgot to download around 1,800 midi files last night, with more to follow, was hoping I could just whack them all into iTunes and sort them out using the library, but I can't becuase they're midi files.
/sulks

As far as i remember it doesn't do them in realtime, it scales/speeds them up much like it does with wav-to-diskrecording.

edit: doh! i meant winamp or similar not soundrecorder.

Edited by jellyhead at 10:54:08 25-10-2005

Teeth 25 Oct 2005 10:53:32 7,987 posts
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Play them in mid for a while and convert the ones you really like to mp3, that's the way.

Teeth 25 Oct 2005 10:58:02 7,987 posts
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In tracker format, they're really small, so it makes sense to keep them that way unless you're putting them on a portable player or something.

AnotherMartin 25 Oct 2005 11:04:16 6,229 posts
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Just try it with something like CDEX or EAC.

Or if desperate run a lead from a CD player into your sound card and do it that way, ok it'll be analog, you'll need to do it in real time and track by track but it should be do-able.

morriss 25 Oct 2005 11:43:28 71,293 posts
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Well I'd 'acquired' Demon Dayz ages ago, but I thought I'd be a good citizen and actually go out and buy the damn thing. Now the 'bought' version won't go on my iPod but the burnt version will.

I'm sorry, if it breaks the law, but I'm gonna download loads of music now witha clear conscience (provided that I already own the CD), no way am I gonna pay for something twice. Bastards.

morriss 25 Oct 2005 11:45:08 71,293 posts
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ecosse_011172 wrote:
I've ripped over 800 Cds to iTunes, including copy protected ones. If you have trouble, rip it uncompressed with EAC first but it's rarely necessary..

well how did you do it. My iTunes just freezes on a particular track and the CD stops running. i.e. with Demon Dayz it was 'Dare', that just would not write. With Zero 7 it was tracks 2 and 7. All tracks play perfectly on CD player and in PC btw.

AnotherMartin 25 Oct 2005 12:23:17 6,229 posts
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Demon Days ripped fine for me the other day in EAC and I know Dare is fine as it's about the only track I listen to.

Which Zero 7? as i've ripped a couple of their's with EAC as well.

Foregone-Reality 25 Oct 2005 13:26:48 2,216 posts
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There's ways and means to disable those cheeky little anti-copy drivers..

/looks at Foo Fighters CD.

Thought you won eh.

/pets his perfectly ripped ATRAC files.

Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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morriss, if you're still having probs, hold shift when you insert the CD. Then assuming you have a Creative Audigy card, select "record what you can hear" then play the CD with sound recorder or something a little fancier (ie Creative Wave Studio). It'll copy the CD as a perfect .wav.

At least that used to work, dunno if they've updated the copy protection.