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tourlord 16 May 2006 00:34:26 2,600 posts
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Ooh... I'm so close to the end now. I was kind of disappointed in this game until recently in the story (not wanting to give anything away), but this last trial has been excellent!

Did anyone else notice the line "The chief's big organ is a sight to behold"?

It made me chuckle anyway...

But yeah, spot on with the review, prof and thanks for bringing the game to my attention - I probably wouldn't have picked it up if I hadn't read about it on EG.

ProfessorLesser 28 May 2006 23:01:33 19,693 posts
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Awesome! :-D

Don't even bother watching the first one. It even misses out the Edgeworth Shrugshake.

ProfessorLesser 28 May 2006 23:07:54 19,693 posts
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On a slightly related note, I notice that places seem to have stopped hosting last year's TGS Phoenix/DS trailer... which is a shame, because it was brilliant :-(

RichDC 28 May 2006 23:08:21 9,177 posts
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Anyone know where I could get a midi of the music that kicks in when things 'start to go right'. Would love to have it for a ringtone.

ProfessorLesser 28 May 2006 23:10:55 19,693 posts
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It lives!

Murbs 19 Jul 2006 14:52:50 25,152 posts
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Rightio Prof, I'm finally going to pick this up - got some vouchers to spend at Amazon and this is top priority.

I'm going to enjoy it aren't I. Aren't I?

kincaide 19 Jul 2006 16:03:08 5,067 posts
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Some negative views here Mainly from myself, King_Cnut and faceman.
Just not my cup of tea

Murbs 19 Jul 2006 16:41:07 25,152 posts
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kincaide wrote:
Some negative views here Mainly from myself, King_Cnut and faceman.
Just not my cup of tea

Thanks for the pointer. I still think I'll give it a go, I've been curious about it for too long to ignore it now.

ProfessorLesser 19 Jul 2006 20:10:20 19,693 posts
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Murbal wrote:
Rightio Prof, I'm finally going to pick this up - got some vouchers to spend at Amazon and this is top priority.

I'm going to enjoy it aren't I. Aren't I?

Yes, you are. Ignore this witless gaggle of inbreds, they know not of what speak ;-)

kincaide 19 Jul 2006 21:14:46 5,067 posts
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Don't put yourself down Prof - you ain't that bad. An inbred - yes, gaggling - no

/OBJECTION

ProfessorLesser 19 Jul 2006 21:19:42 19,693 posts
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OH RLY?

Murbs 21 Jul 2006 11:14:59 25,152 posts
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Wrightio then - it's here, and I've got ol' Butzy off the hook in no time at all.

Great fun, looking forward to case 2.

edit: Mia's something of a fox, ain't she!?!

Edited by Murbal at 11:16:07 21-07-2006

ProfessorLesser 21 Jul 2006 11:21:04 19,693 posts
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Yes, but...

UncleLou Moderator 21 Jul 2006 11:21:44 40,723 posts
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ProfessorLesser wrote:
Yes, but...

MetalDog 21 Jul 2006 11:25:18 24,076 posts
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I just got this and it's super fun so far (day two of case two).

I particularly like the way Wright looks like a drooling wolverine every time he's flustered and the way the witnesses start freaking out whenever you pick holes in their story.

boo 21 Jul 2006 11:28:07 13,901 posts
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I really enjoyed it.

The speed with which you get through the first couple of cases made me think 'this is going to be finished in a weekend'.

Those last few cases though, go on, and on and on.

You've got to keep playing - if you put it down for a few days then try and come back to it, you've forgotten what you've looked at and who said what.

Top game though.

Murbs 21 Jul 2006 11:31:57 25,152 posts
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UncleLou wrote:

ProfessorLesser wrote:
Yes, but...

I object to all this hinting at potential spoilers nonsense!

York 17 Aug 2006 15:19:24 8,667 posts
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ProfessorLesser wrote:
5) The game is never clear whether it wants you to work things out for yourself or not. One thing is clear, however. When it does want you to, it�s impossible. When it doesn�t want you to (preferring instead to deliver this part of the case as narrative � see point 2), you�ve already done it, and feel robbed of credit.

Yep, noticed that.

Also quite annoying is when you pick some evidence to show, or answer one of the multiple choice questions, and yes, you picked the right thing, but for the wrong reason. I wonder, for example, how many people showed the plate of T-bone steaks from the employee room for the right reason.

But, yeah, it's one of those "MUST PLAY!!!" games, for sure. I wish I hadn't wasted it all so fast, but I just couldn't stop playing \o/

Genji 18 Aug 2006 11:49:35 19,682 posts
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The cases seem to get more and more implausible as the game goes on. I don't mean the wacky stuff (like the parrot), but the multitude of plotholes. I really wanted to ask the culprit in case 3, for example, why he or she even wanted to cover it up. I think, as the cases get more complex, it becomes harder and harder to explain why things happen the way they do.

Also, the contradictions you have to find just get more and more abstract and insignificant.

Case 5 is great, though.

Oh, and I really, really love the game. One of my favourite DS games.

ProfessorLesser 18 Aug 2006 11:56:52 19,693 posts
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Ignatius_Cheese Moderator 18 Aug 2006 12:04:38 11,104 posts
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Genji wrote:
The cases seem to get more and more implausible as the game goes on. I don't mean the wacky stuff (like the parrot), but the multitude of plotholes. I really wanted to ask the culprit in case 3, for example, why he or she even wanted to cover it up. I think, as the cases get more complex, it becomes harder and harder to explain why things happen the way they do.

Just like the later episodes of Jonathan Creek. Perfect analogy in my book...

ProfessorLesser 18 Aug 2006 12:05:34 19,693 posts
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See, everyone loves it despite the obvious annoying flaws :-)

Ignatius_Cheese Moderator 18 Aug 2006 12:23:12 11,104 posts
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ProfessorLesser wrote:
See, everyone loves it despite the obvious annoying flaws

But even you can't deny that it oozes character... It's broken in a few essential places but that won't halt me from picking up the next issue.

ProfessorLesser 18 Aug 2006 12:36:52 19,693 posts
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Huh? What do you mean even *I* can't deny that?! What sort of reputation do I have around here?!

I absolutely love Phoenix Wright - I'm one of its loudest proponents. Trounces everything else currently available on the DS for sheer awesomeness.

UncleLou Moderator 18 Aug 2006 13:56:03 40,723 posts
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You wrote "Attourney"!

*just bumping this to push the annoying, forum-breaking thread from page 1*

ProfessorLesser 18 Aug 2006 14:14:44 19,693 posts
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Yeah I know :-(

frod loves it apparently.

Ignatius_Cheese Moderator 18 Aug 2006 15:30:36 11,104 posts
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ProfessorLesser wrote:
Huh? What do you mean even *I* can't deny that?!

Again it would appear as though I have fallen foul of failing to reading the username prior to replying... Pity poor Tim...

Chtulie 18 Aug 2006 15:51:06 809 posts
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Genji wrote:
The cases seem to get more and more implausible as the game goes on. I don't mean the wacky stuff (like the parrot), but the multitude of plotholes. I really wanted to ask the culprit in case 3, for example, why he or she even wanted to cover it up. I think, as the cases get more complex, it becomes harder and harder to explain why things happen the way they do.

Also, the contradictions you have to find just get more and more abstract and insignificant.

Case 5 is great, though.

Oh, and I really, really love the game. One of my favourite DS games.

In case 3 it was some exposition that was only revealed in case 4 'accidental death still counts as murder' which would be a big reason for the cover up.
The game is at it's best when the story doesn't take over. Case 2 and 4 are, in my opinion (though I know it contradicts that of a lot of others) the worst of the batch. Having bits in the game where you're supposed to lose is an nigh unforgivable crime in game design (and case 4 does it several times). Case 2 also robs the player from final vistory by having the storyline take care of that.
% does indeed have a few too many similarities to four, but since it's soo much better, I'd say that four has a few too many similarities to five

One was an awesome introduction, as gaadf as, though in a diffirent way, as the Village in resi4. Three was my favourite case as it has the best twists (and even something that actually felt like a boss battle).

Re. proper evidence use, there's a quote that helped me: "Wait for the most oppertune moment". THough some cases (iirc 4 again) have lots of evidence thats so close related that it's tricky to figure out which to use.

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