How much longer will YOU be using Windows at the office?? Page 4

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  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    Heh, whenever I've changed resolutions in Windows I've always had to adjust my monitor's settings.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Will you delete it if he bothers to reply with an answer you dont like?
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Not being funny guys, but isnt renaming it just an attempt to get a reaction? aka trolling?
    /shrugs and heads home.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Am I the only one who isnt looking forward to a more fragmented office environment where an email I send from an MS client may not work on another customers PC if they've gone down a non-MS route?

    If MS start to lose significant market share, dont be surprised if that happens. Just like the IM market.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    They dont buy them, but because MS dont have the dominant share, they keep it closed to encourage people over to Messenger. If people start moving away from Outlook/Exchange whatever, whats to stop MS making things not work? They cant legally be forced to make their IP/software compatible with someone elses can they?

    If so, then sorry to sound like Pike, but thats bullshit. Infact the whole idea they should have to open up any of their patents still doesnt sit comfortable with me. If it applies to them, it should apply to everyone.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Ah, showing I'm a little out of touch. I thought they were still blocking it. Uncle Bill is obviously less vindictive than I would be :p
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    sam_spade wrote:
    This lends itself to another problem. Data that you can't access because you can't afford to fork out for MS Office suite. It's scary the amount of companies and public service IT departments that assume you have a full Office suite.
    Dont they do viewes for pretty much everything though? They're no worse than Adobe for that, and I know a damn sight more people have the ability to edit a Word doc, or an Excel file, than have a PDF editor.

    Edit: Getting slow in my old age.

    Edited by Furbs at 19:37:24 10-11-2005
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Oh and if you outsource your IT support, if your IT maintenance company is anything like mine (and if they arent a huge national they probably are), you can expect limited/more expensive/slower support than if you're Windows based company. Hell, even our Mac customers get better support than the Unix ones :)
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    otto wrote:
    Mac *is* Unix. ;p

    mouse, I think Ubuntu works really well as a solution for grannies or non-dabblers. You're right, it does start to wobble when you try to get clever with it - I had a hell of a time trying to set up Samba shares in it which is why in the end I ditched it, reluctantly. :/
    Doh. Oh well, I know theres alot of swearing goes around the sales office when someone calls in with a Unix problem.

    I just pass the phone over if someone says they have a problem with it. :p
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    If you told my boss all our records were to be kept offsite and we'd be dependent 100% on another company to sort out a problem due to it being hosted offsite, he'd laugh.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Umm, my boss runs one of the largest IT maintenance companies in East Anglia. I'm sure he's pretty in touch with what people want from their IT equipment.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    Regarding training... Everyone already knows how to use Instant messaging and gmail and google (no-one taught them, they taught themselves)...
    Wrong I'm afraid.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    The mega-corps may suit their present model better. No 'one solution' is available that works for everything/one.
    But isnt that what MS is doing (or trying), hence why its so big as a company?

    Its the same old thing. 5 years ago we were told Linux was coming and would hurt MS. Maybe it has, but no to any great extent.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    Who taught *ALL* your users Word, and Outlook?
    I do for alot of them! And I'm no expert. Bearing in mind we're an IT company so most of our users are tech savvy. When I worked at the bank I had to show people where word count was, how to format, search for a word, send to multiple email address', use the calender. And yes, I had to talk someone through installing and setting up Messenger. Frightening really.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    So what do you see happening in 5 years time from now?
    "M$" haters on forums saying that the end is nigh.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    So if you have to teach them all this on word, why not on OpenOffice Writer? No different? It;'s just YOU need to learn it... and if your tech savvy, you'll pick it up in minutes :)
    But why would I want to? I'm happy with Word, it works, I like it. I might pick up the basics, but my Word knowledge is a result of 10 years+ self learning. Sod starting from scratch again.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    They do? I'd love to see that statement!

    If its no different, surely its a breach of hundreds of patents/copyright?
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Thats hardly the same as them saying "oh those idiots who buy and install Office. What chumps!" though is it?
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    I extrapolated it from:

    "Buying and installing Office is a waste of time and money. Even MS knows and acknowledges this."
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    @Carlo - On linux? Wont take long then :p

    Edited by Furbs at 12:05:03 11-11-2005
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