Following What's the right word to describe someone from Hong Kong?

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  • opalw00t 21 Dec 2005 09:50:12 12,836 posts
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    Note: This is not a joke!

    For example, someone from England is English, France is French, etc.

    I was having a discussion last night about this and now it's bugging me something fierce. The two sides were:

    Hong Kongese
    Hong Kong Chinese

    Is it either of these or something else entirely?
  • djchump 21 Dec 2005 09:51:08 4,463 posts
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    Chinese? Seeing as Hong Kong is part of china?
    Cantonese?
  • opalw00t 21 Dec 2005 09:54:41 12,836 posts
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    Isn't Cantonese a language though?

    Like Flemish in Belgium?
  • Kay 21 Dec 2005 09:55:47 21,321 posts
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    djchump wrote:
    Chinese? Seeing as Hong Kong is part of china?
    Cantonese?

    Hong Kong is not technically part of China. Not any more, anyway.

    If my Chinese colleague was in today I would have been able to get the answer to the thread question.

    K
  • Deleted user 21 December 2005 09:55:58
    About 96 % of Hong Kong's population is Chinese, the majority of which are Cantonese.: from Wikipedia.

    So probably Chinese.
  • Machiavel 21 Dec 2005 09:56:08 5,964 posts
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    No, Cantonese is a dialect - written down, it's the same as Mandarin.
  • Machiavel 21 Dec 2005 09:59:11 5,964 posts
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    And I'd go for Hong Kongese.

    Hong Kong is Chinese, but it's a special autonomous region with its own council and laws - under China's thumb, but a heck of a lot more protesting and free speech than you'd get in one of the major mainland cities.
  • Deleted user 21 December 2005 09:59:22
    Well, according to this site Hong Konger is acceptable. Sounds odd to me - probably what's used to describe residents of Hong Kong in general (so settled foreigners etc).

    Chinese ftw!
  • Blerk Moderator 21 Dec 2005 09:59:51 48,222 posts
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    Hong Kung. :-)
  • MrSensible 21 Dec 2005 10:08:25 26,517 posts
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    IIRC, a man I knew from Hong Kong called himself Hong Kong Chinese, or something thereabouts.

    He makes a definite distinction between his nation and China though.
  • Juninho 21 Dec 2005 10:08:59 1,825 posts
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    well-Hong?
  • Deleted user 21 December 2005 10:12:27
    And what if Hong Kong was a monarchy. and that person was the monach ? Hong Kong King Kong ?

    ah heh
  • morriss 21 Dec 2005 10:13:19 71,293 posts
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    Hong Kongian?
  • Flightrisker 21 Dec 2005 10:16:23 18,139 posts
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    What's the right word to describe someone from Hong Kong?


    Awesome.
  • morriss 21 Dec 2005 10:28:13 71,293 posts
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    MGSfan wrote:
    otto wrote:
    Write to Buckingham Palace, the Duke of Edinburgh is usually well informed on these things.

    Is this some sort of political in-joke? Did the Duke of Edinburgh call someone a chink on live TV, or something?

    He's called everyone just about everything at one time or another.
  • Deleted user 21 December 2005 10:29:26
    He's a total joke himself. The only Spitting Image puppet less offensive than it's real life counterpart.
  • mrharvest 21 Dec 2005 11:04:42 5,718 posts
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    Machiavel wrote:
    No, Cantonese is a dialect - written down, it's the same as Mandarin.

    In fact isn't the dialectisation so far that written Cantonese has dissimilarities to written Mandarin?
    Canton (Guangdong) is a different area though so calling them Cantonese is wrong.

    M-W says 'Hong Konger' too.
  • opalw00t 21 Dec 2005 11:07:02 12,836 posts
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    Thanks for all the help... and not so helpful comments :)

    It appears that the only way to settle this is a fight to the death. I'd best go get my Lirpas.

    'We must fight Captain...'

    Do do der der der der deeeeeeeeer duder-der-der

    Brrrrrrrr-ing! Brrr-ing! Brrr-ing!
  • ChrisOTR 21 Dec 2005 11:08:56 1,670 posts
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    Hong Kong Chinese, I would say... :)
  • opalw00t 21 Dec 2005 11:17:21 12,836 posts
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    Thanks vermin, you GENIUS!!!111

    ;)
  • DodgyPast 21 Dec 2005 11:30:00 9,353 posts
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    ChrisOTR wrote:
    Hong Kong Chinese, I would say... :)
    That's how the Thai's differentiate between the Chinese and people from Hong Kong.

    It also fits well with Singaporean Chinese and Singaporean Malay / Indian.
  • kincaide 21 Dec 2005 11:43:07 5,067 posts
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    k.o.t.i wrote:
    Yep. No such thing as being English......it's a language.

    ???
  • Deleted user 21 December 2005 11:46:18
    PRINCE PHILIP, CRUSADER FOR PEACE

    * In May 1999 he angered deaf people during a visit to the new Welsh Assembly. While he was with a group from the British Deaf Association who were standing near a band, he pointed to the musicians and said: "Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf."

    * In 1996 he caused an outcry among gun law reformers when he said: "There's no evidence that people who use weapons for sport are any more dangerous than people who use golf clubs or tennis rackets or cricket bats."

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    * During a Royal visit to China in 1986 he described Peking as "ghastly" and told British students: "If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed."

    * He said of Canada: "We don't come here for our health. We can think of other ways of enjoying ourselves."

    * At the height of the recession in 1981 he said: "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed."

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  • Shinji 21 Dec 2005 12:21:50 5,902 posts
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    Just "Chinese", according to my housemate from HK - who looked at me like I'd just spoken in moon language when I suggested "Hong Konger" as an alternative.
  • Pike 21 Dec 2005 12:32:30 13,459 posts
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    Gremmi wrote:

    * In 1996 he caused an outcry among gun law reformers when he said: "There's no evidence that people who use weapons for sport are any more dangerous than people who use golf clubs or tennis rackets or cricket bats."

    Why is that even remotley offensive?
  • Kay 21 Dec 2005 12:35:35 21,321 posts
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    Gremmi wrote:
    PRINCE PHILIP, CRUSADER FOR PEACE

    * In May 1999 he angered deaf people during a visit to the new Welsh Assembly. While he was with a group from the British Deaf Association who were standing near a band, he pointed to the musicians and said: "Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf."

    LOL...what a character.

    K
  • DodgyPast 21 Dec 2005 13:06:28 9,353 posts
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    Gremmi wrote:
    * In 1995 he asked a Scottish driving instructor: "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test."

    * At the height of the recession in 1981 he said: "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed."
    I do like those two....

    Personally I approve of him in a general sort of way... a last bastion against people being PC.
  • Deleted user 21 December 2005 14:46:12
    Pike wrote:
    Gremmi wrote:

    * In 1996 he caused an outcry among gun law reformers when he said: "There's no evidence that people who use weapons for sport are any more dangerous than people who use golf clubs or tennis rackets or cricket bats."

    Why is that even remotley offensive?

    Yeah - you need a little context for that. The comments came in the aftermath of the Dunblaine (sp?) massacre, when a number of young children were shot dead by man wielding a gun he had for sporting purposes. There was an outcry / backlash against owning guns for sport, to which Philip responded as above - so nothing really wrong with the comment per se, but a tad insensitive (he just bulldozed into the debate in as though he had an executive right to).
  • pistol 21 Dec 2005 14:54:16 13,018 posts
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    Machiavel wrote:
    No, Cantonese is a dialect - written down, it's the same as Mandarin.

    You're wrong. Cantonese and Manderin are different.
  • Machiavel 21 Dec 2005 15:06:39 5,964 posts
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    um, no.

    Though do please clarify what you mean :)
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