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Mate, in DK train fares are almost double that of England. For me to 1 stop costs about 9-10 pound return. To go to Copenhagen for example, 1h15mins journey, cost £40 return o_O Edited by morriss at 09:27:14 03-01-2006 |
Train fares - how much?!!
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morriss 71,293 posts
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Singularity 3,282 posts
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Registered 18 years agoAn offpeak travelcard from my town into London just went up to £15. I have to go in four days a week for (at least) the next 5 months.
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Milk 2,253 posts
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Registered 17 years agomorriss wrote:
For me to 1 stop costs about 9-10 pound return.
Wow?! Does anybody use the trains in denmark? Why is it soo expensive? -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoThe prices seem a bit odd. They had a few examples on the news - Birmingham to London return is something like £25 - but Southampton to London return was nearer £50. -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoMilk wrote:
morriss wrote:
For me to 1 stop costs about 9-10 pound return.
Wow?! Does anybody use the trains in denmark? Why is it soo expensive?
Because the trains are very modern, run on time and because there's no competition. Also, as it's very much countryside on the island where I live 1 stop is about 25mins. Of course, if you use the Metro in Copenhagen (i.e. the Underground) you'll find realistic prices. But if you live out in the sticks, that's where they make their money.
It's a shame though, as I hardly ever (once a year) visit the capital. I can't stomach a £40 return fare, let alone afford it. Driving not much better either as you have to cross this massive bridge and pay a huge toll because the Danish government overspent on it by 123214341234zillion kroner. -
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Registered 18 years agomorriss wrote:
Fucking hell. The media here would have us believe that British trains are the shittiest/most expensive in the known universe, but evidently it could be worse (well, our trains might still be shittier)...
Mate, in DK train fares are almost double that of England. For me to 1 stop costs about 9-10 pound return. To go to Copenhagen for example, 1h15mins journey, cost £40 return o_O -
sam_spade 15,745 posts
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Registered 20 years agoBut morriss, do your trains turn up on time and not stink of piss? And do they shut down at the mere inkling of hot/cold weather? -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoDecoded wrote:
morriss wrote:
Fucking hell. The media here would have us believe that British trains are the shittiest/most expensive in the known universe, but evidently it could be worse (well, our trains might still be shittier)...
Mate, in DK train fares are almost double that of England. For me to 1 stop costs about 9-10 pound return. To go to Copenhagen for example, 1h15mins journey, cost £40 return o_O
Yeah but in my experience if a Danish train says it leaves 11.24, if you get there 11.26, you've missed it.
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Merlinho 5,908 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDo Danish trains get cancelled with NO explanation given whatsoever?
I just hate the way British railways think they're above providing customer service. Hell, they've even threatened to call British Transport Police on me when I complained about them giving me the wrong information ending up in me joining a 2 hour long queue having already waited an hour for a train.
And GWR have just been awarded a new contract for the Wales and West franchise, for which decision no reflection whatsoever was given to their prior performance on the franchise, just their "promises" for the future (and the little question of the money they paid the government for the franchise).
Grr British trains make me mad
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spindizzy 7,755 posts
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Registered 17 years agoDecoded wrote:
morriss wrote:
Fucking hell. The media here would have us believe that British trains are the shittiest/most expensive in the known universe, but evidently it could be worse (well, our trains might still be shittier)...
Mate, in DK train fares are almost double that of England. For me to 1 stop costs about 9-10 pound return. To go to Copenhagen for example, 1h15mins journey, cost £40 return o_O
See, trains in the UK are pretty rubbish, both in terms of quality and cost... but one thing I really miss living in Europe is that at least they're frequent. For example, there is only one direct train a day from Geneva to the south of France. It's a lovely fast train, and amazingly cheap, but in the UK there's typically a train an hour, if not less time than that, to all the major cities.
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ssuellid wrote:
The prices seem a bit odd. They had a few examples on the news - Birmingham to London return is something like £25 - but Southampton to London return was nearer £50.
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I go Southampton to London return virtually every weekend. £24. With a travel card, £19. -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoGremmi wrote:
I go Southampton to London return virtually every weekend. £24. With a travel card, £19.
Midweek peak charges iirc. -
Same price for midweek, as long as you don't travel before 8:30am, at which point it's about £35 if you book in advance. -
boo 13,901 posts
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Registered 18 years agoGot to buy my annual travel card this week.
£1502.
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Pike 13,459 posts
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Registered 18 years agomorriss wrote:
Milk wrote:
morriss wrote:
For me to 1 stop costs about 9-10 pound return.
Wow?! Does anybody use the trains in denmark? Why is it soo expensive?
Because the trains are very modern, run on time and because there's no competition. Also, as it's very much countryside on the island where I live 1 stop is about 25mins. Of course, if you use the Metro in Copenhagen (i.e. the Underground) you'll find realistic prices. But if you live out in the sticks, that's where they make their money.
Sort of like here in Sweden then, but on a slightly lesser scale. Running a train service in s large, thinly populated, country is stupidly expensive. They have to charge high ticket prices and even then it will be heavily tax funded. Low population density and long distances means that train travel is higly ineficcient. It's much more suitable to countries like England and Germany.
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Shinji 5,902 posts
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Registered 20 years agoSouth West Trains were a key reason why I decided to move into London - I couldn't bear to put up with their piss-poor service, packed trains, stinking stations and ridiculous prices any more.
For all the failings of transport within the capital, it's a bloody sight better than trying to use public transport INTO London on a regular basis. The price hikes just make the decision even better. I reckon at the new fare prices, I'm saving about fifty quid a week by living in the city.
It's a sad state of affairs, though; I can handle living in the city centre since I'm young and don't have a family, but for others living outside London is much more attractive. Providing an economical means for them to travel around without a big dirty petrol-sucking car should be the goal of the railways - clearly, it is failing at that aim. -
Hm. Just compared prices online, for a fare for tomorrow morning. Both do cheap day return as standard at around £25. Birmingham to London standard day return is £60. Southampton to London is £48. Only difference is Birmingham does a single cheap day in the morning before 8:30, but then don't do another one until nearly 10am. -
Very true. But the same can be said about virtually any train journey, really. I was just clarifying the Birmingham-London/Southampton-London charges. Not really adding any point in. -
JackThompsonsAnArse 1,441 posts
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Better than the £65 it costs return to Liverpool St though! -
Syneisha 104 posts
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Registered 17 years agoSure, you can run a car for a lot less than a single journey than a train journey in theory. But add up the cost of your car loan, insurance, tax and all the other running costs plus congestion on the roads and are you really that better off? I know where I live (Newcastle) the Metro (light rail) is a more desirable (and cheaper) method of travel, even if you have to use a connecting bus.
I whole heartedly sympathise with those who commute into London though, but then again you're probably getting paid a lot more than me anyway. -
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Registered 16 years agoFurbs wrote:
Well, the petrol wouldn't, but by the time you've bought the car, and paid the road tax and insurance... I reckon my car costs me £1500 a year (not including petrol) and it is a tiny VW Lupo - that is six pounds every working day. Mrs FT's car (a Vauxhall Zafira) is probably closer to £2500 a year (much more expensive to insure, and will probably break down much more often than the VW). When you factor that in, the train looks a bit more competative if you use it on an everyday basis.
The point is if I drove to Waterloo from Southampton it wouldnt cost me anywhere near £48 there and back. -
I commute using the train, although not to London. Having had this week and last week off, I can't say I'm looking forward to buying my season ticket next Monday.
If it was good service, nice trains, good timing etc. it'd be fine. The train I get in the mornings is always delayed, always. Doesn't help that the times on the monitor, and on the platform are different. Later than both. Then they put the train at a different time, ie. later to accomodate. Not made a jot of difference, simply a few minutes later than the new late time.
I was quite proud of myself as I managed to arrive at the station at the right time, knowing that it'd be late, and still consistently catch it.
The return trip is actually quite good, although it is a London bound train. Quick and on time. When this is the case you feel so much better about it. -
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Registered 19 years agoMy return fare went up 25p to £6.15 for a 1 stop 20 min journey.
Which is a damn sight better than paying £5 for a bus that takes 50 mins. -
welcome to RippoffBritain.. and lets do nothing about it. -
Juninho 1,825 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI think the problem is lack of transparency.
Train fares in the UK are just so frigging confusing. Saver, Advanced Saver, Advanced Apex Saver, Advanced Daytime Apex Saver, Advanced Super Duper In Your Face Saver, Guaranteed Screaming Child and Fat Smelly Bloke Saver.
And then is it cheaper for two singles? If so, why? -
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Registered 17 years agoSince my car gave up it's fight for life last month I've resorted to trains and busses for a while atleast. I have to say the service between Bradford and Leeds so far seems to be pretty good... it's costing me about £60 a month for my travel card but that can be used on all trains in the Leeds & Bradford area and all busses in pretty much the whole of West Yorkshire.
Considering it used to cost me on average £80-90 per month on petrol alone, and that was only for work travel, not shopping trips etc, I think the public transport option is working out quite well... not to mention all the money I'm saving because it's not so easy for me to go shopping any more!! lol
Alright, it means it takes me about 30 or 40 minutes longer to get to work and I have to be at the station at a certain time, but I don't get stressed sitting in rush hour traffic and I can have a quick nap on the way... plus there's no way I can now be talked into driving on a Friday or Saturday night after the pub!! I think I may be staying car-less for the forseeable future.gif)
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Shinzou 887 posts
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Registered 17 years agorhythm wrote:
boo wrote:
Got to buy my annual travel card this week.
GBP1502.
Yippee...
:-O
Mines £3,000.
I win!
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Furbs 45,740 posts
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Registered 18 years agoBut dont forget the flexibility a car offers, which compensates for the extra cost. Plus consider if two people share one car but decide to use the train. Your car costs havent increased but your train costs have doubled.
Even a one off day trip to London would cost the two of us £70. If we had 2 kids nearer £100. Far better to drive in, adding more congestion, more pollution etc etc. -
The point is if I drove to Waterloo from Southampton it wouldnt cost me anywhere near £48 there and back.
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