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  • Frogofdoom 6 Aug 2018 17:03:02 9,245 posts
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    Put in my worst run in months today, no real idea why either. I think my 42 year old body is struggling a bit with training 6 days a week. I'm doing 3 days weights and 3 days runs, might move it to an 8 day cycle rather than 7 to see if it helps but it feels a bit like failing to do that.
  • mrpon 6 Aug 2018 17:06:20 34,548 posts
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    Rest!!
  • Phattso 6 Aug 2018 17:10:52 23,571 posts
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    @wuntyphyve no, I skipped it in the end and just got a Neoprene Monstrosity to strap my phone to my arm; seemed the best way to get proper Strava integration with zero faff. ;-)
  • wuntyphyve 6 Aug 2018 17:24:07 10,588 posts
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    @Phattso Oooh. Well it's too late now but the Strava integration is brilliant with the garmin watches. That's why I got one as I couldn't be arsed taking my phone out with me anymore (I have REALLY odd-shaped twig like arms and could never get anything to fit properly).

    Just wish they made the bloody things better.

    Off for a run after work. Shin splints are doing my tits in though. Realised my shoes needed changing so got some new Brooks Adrenaline GTS18's. They look hideous but are as awesome as ever.
  • Phattso 6 Aug 2018 18:02:43 23,571 posts
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    What ultimately put me off was the people with slightly older gear explaining the problems they had getting things to work with all the new features. Some watches never supporting certain features, and on and on and on. Decided I didn't need a new rabbit warren of tech to lose myself down so just made do with the lack of mid-run stats and settled for the summaries at the end.

    Now what, I wonder, should I spend the £160 I saved on the Garmin on? ;)
  • Vortex808 6 Aug 2018 18:14:53 12,504 posts
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    Buying a gps was the best thing i've done phattso. The massive phone holster shit really got to me after a few years.


    Plus, if it slips down to your elbow, most folk end up running like a camp Tyrannosaurus with a little arm just sitting there trying to hold it in place.

    Edited by Vortex808 at 18:15:20 06-08-2018
  • elstoof 6 Aug 2018 18:18:40 20,785 posts
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    Yeah I hated my phone arm band, plus the Velcro stopped working properly after a few runs so kept undoing itself and hanging off my forearm. Seemed to cane my data as well. My FR35 has been the best bit of Garmin kit Iíve had.

    As for features, unless you need to have whatever cutting edge fad is being promoted, running doesnít change so the features youíll actually use wonít change. I donít expect to be getting a new watch until this one dies of old age, hopefully more than another 5 years. My cycling Edge800 still works just fine despite being a 2012 vintage

    Edited by elstoof at 18:22:22 06-08-2018
  • Phattso 6 Aug 2018 18:30:58 23,571 posts
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    I'm all about the fads. I don't have much intrinsic motivation to get off my arse, so I'll take as much of the faux scientific motivational guff they can parp into my face if it has me running regularly. :)

    MOAR FEATUREZ!
  • Your-Mother 6 Aug 2018 18:55:21 1,854 posts
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    Anyone ever done any ultrarunning? I'm seriously considering doing a 100 mile race next year.
  • elstoof 6 Aug 2018 19:01:13 20,785 posts
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    A friend of mine has got into ultra marathons recently, she just did Glasgow to Edinburgh
  • fontgeeksogood 6 Aug 2018 19:03:50 1,654 posts
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    I've done two ultras. They're fucking brilliant for two thirds of it. The middle third (both times) boredom and exhaustion had a fight in my brain
  • Vortex808 6 Aug 2018 19:52:33 12,504 posts
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    Nutters. My knees would EXPLODE over a half marathon.

    And my itb goes often enough trying to build up to that distance as it is!
  • fontgeeksogood 6 Aug 2018 19:58:17 1,654 posts
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    Well, yeah. You don't go from 5k to ultra in two months
  • Vortex808 6 Aug 2018 20:05:37 12,504 posts
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    My knees just cant take it no matter how slowly i phase in incremental distance increases over a long time.

    I've just been slowly building back to 12km after an itb blow up last year. That's with stretches, clams aplenty etc.

    Half M limit for me! I am in awe of those with more robust knees.

    At least i can still run and haven't had to jack it in to concentrate on cycling yet.

    Edited by Vortex808 at 20:06:11 06-08-2018
  • fontgeeksogood 6 Aug 2018 20:13:53 1,654 posts
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    Form?

    I've been lucky perhaps in that I started running any sort of distance when I was in my late teens and was doing a lot of powerlifting exercises. That matters because when training for that, you wear flat or no shoes, and I was pretty dirt poor and I wasn't able to buy any Nike kneewrecking running shoes so had to learn good form as otherwise my shins felt like they were coming off
  • Vortex808 6 Aug 2018 20:19:17 12,504 posts
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    I think I have been leaning forward a bit when fatigued, so trying to recalibrate a bit with that with kettlebells & some core stuff.

    Also been trying to run on forest paths a bit more regularly. When i was early 20's i mostly ran off-road and had no issues. It was only as i settled down and had less time to head out of the city that the issues started. Possibly due to pavement/road camber. I'm trying to vary routes more often too.

    Still dig running forest paths most though- flies dependent!
  • askew 6 Aug 2018 20:32:15 17,201 posts
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    Aye. Fed up of inhaling clouds of thrips as they hover over horse shit.
  • askew 10 Aug 2018 10:31:37 17,201 posts
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    Anybody else running:

    - Great North Run
    - Birmingham half (refuse to call it the Great Birmingham Run)

    ?

    Main priority was to set a PB at the GNR, but thought I'd add the Birmingham half as a back-up. Not sure I fancy another five weeks of training though :(
  • freddymercurystwin 10 Aug 2018 11:04:43 1,468 posts
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    Do it! I have the Bridport Half on Sunday, gonna be pissing down by the looks (joy), think I'd almost prefer boiling hot TBH, it has fell run status and my last experience of something similar was not fun so am a bit apprehensive! I've long since given up chasing PB's. Happy to chug around and get to the finish nowadays and I think this will be reeeeally slow given the ascent.
  • rice_sandwich 15 Aug 2018 20:37:23 4,778 posts
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    Has anyone used the Summit paid features in Strava? I don't know if it's the sort of thing that's actually useful or if it's just stats for the sake of stats. At my level, pretty much running more and faster is the thing to do.
  • wuntyphyve 15 Aug 2018 20:56:00 10,588 posts
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    I've not but that reminded me I as going to give the free trial a shot. I was only interested in the analysis package so I've just activated it. No harm in giving it a month to see what it does for me.

    Edited by wuntyphyve at 20:56:09 15-08-2018
  • TheBlackDog 15 Aug 2018 22:09:40 1,062 posts
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    Doing the Salomon Ben Nevis Ultra next month, which I signed up for a while ago and only just started reading up on. Now I've seen the route I've got a healthy level of "fear" and some nervousness about whether I've done enough training (I haven't). Also not sure how I'm going to pack now I've found out that there is only one food and water provision halfway around (I didn't realise it is meant to be self sufficient).

    Anyone else doing it/done it? I've never been anywhere near Ben Nevis so I'm really looking forward to it overall. A dry race day would make it even better.
  • freddymercurystwin 15 Aug 2018 22:38:21 1,468 posts
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    @TheBlackDog You are mad. That is all I have to offer! :)
  • askew 15 Aug 2018 22:45:46 17,201 posts
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    Arf ;) Sounds like youíre in for a treat. Take a waterproof, compass, head torch, map.
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