Blerk wrote: Possibly they will just hook their DVD players to them and find the picture quality is stunning as it is... I know I do! |
PS3 BluRay to be slower than DVD? • Page 2
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
I honestly believe in a year or twos time we'll look at the present 360 games and wonder what we ever saw in the launch 360 titles.
Carlo wrote:
The 360 has had one of the best launch lineups in my memory, and review averages confirm. Maybe not quite as good as the Dreamcast. Certainly not 'dire', unless you're a hater?
wasp wrote:
I have no illusions that *most* first batch games (on every console) generally suck especially when you look back on the lifetime of the console.
Carlo wrote:
We all see what you did there.
Initial games on the PS2 compared to this year's stuff... Same with the 360. This batch = dire
The only exception in my mind was the PS1... Some great lauch games.
I mean, look at the stuff on it's way... Gears of War, Test Drive... 99Knights... Maybe even Halo 3 (not seen much of that one though TBH)
It's gonna show up the launch titles. I don;t agree that the lauch titles was among some of the best in memory, but that's not 'cause I'm a hater. Believe me.
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LeDilettante wrote:
.... until they wander into Dixons again and lap up the "if you're using a standard DVD player with your hi-def telly then there really is no point" line, that is.
Possibly they will just hook their DVD players to them and find the picture quality is stunning as it is... I know I do!.gif)
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malteaserhead 13,443 posts
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Registered 17 years agoBlerk wrote:
It doesn't have to work that way around, though. By the end of the year, every high-street shop is going to be pushing high-def telly like crazy and the man on the street is going to be suckered into buying one even if he doesn't really want/need one.
People will buy blu-ray/hd-dvd players to compliment their new tellies, not new tellies to compliment their new blu-ray/hd-dvd player.
yep -- true ... PS3 is quite a way off from being in the UK...HDTV should be more affordable by then..and there's a sucker born every minute...
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glaeken 12,070 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI think the difference on the move to blue ray over DVD in comparison to VHS to DVD is the market was really ready to ditch VHS. I mean we had had VHS for over 20 years when DVD arrived and there was a tangible difference in quality and features.
If we look at Blu Ray really we are talking hi-res DVD so it’s basically the same thing but higher quality and I don't think many will see this as a totally new format as they did with VHS to DVD. Of course you also have the additional hurdle that you need a HD TV to even see the benefit where as DVD would work just fine on the TV's people had had for years.
Perhaps the real reason for Sony not rushing out the PS3 is they sense Blu Ray is really not that much of a selling factor yet. Give it another year and I would guess a lot more people are going to have HD TV's. -
wasp wrote:
I'm pretty sure that a PS3 hooked up to a big hi definition screen playing a hidef movie in a generic electrical shop (instead of a 360 on a smallish samsung screen in GAME) will do a lot more to shift both products.
IMO walking into Dixons right now with standard def content playing on the wall of plasmas isn't particularly persuasive. People buy with their eyes.
Hmm I don't know... The thing is right now I am able to compare DVD movies and 720p trailers right off the 360. You do notice the increase in sharpness if you're looking for it. It's not that big a deal. Oh and don't start with 1080p, I've seen all HD formats in action, and again, not a big deal between all of them. -
EGBartonFink 914 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThat's just the word to describe the 360 launch 'solid'
It wasn't by any means stellar they just delivered some good to very good games.
Nothing spectacular in there by no means the best launch line up ever and extremely far removed from the worst.
Yup 'solid' is a good description.
I would be very happy if Sony have a 'solid' launch line-up too.
Any chance of keeping this one out of the realms of fanboy ranting guys?
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What's wrong with 'spandelicious'? .gif)
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EGBartonFink wrote:
You jest, surely?
Any chance of keeping this one out of the realms of fanboy ranting guys? -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFurbs wrote:
Forumites and reviews Furbs. Well I'm trying to get a bit of variety in my 'diet'.
I thought Carlo based all his opinions on what us forumites said anyway? Surely that would lead him to conclude its a pretty solid launch?
Ordered Age of Empires DS and DDO:Stormreach. Both of which I'm hoping will be good games, but neither of which have been reviewed by EG or talked about much in the forums.
@wasp. Maybe your right. All the time trying out the 360 just didn't inspire me to open my wallet and get one (not that I can get one!).
Test-Drive's launch will possibly see me getting it (the 360). Until then, the DS, PS2 and PC (I sold my xbox) will have to 'do me' in the meantime. -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
At least *try* to keep it in context! I said 'Dire' when you eventually compare the launch games with the games for it in 1 or 2 years time (in reply to the idea that a console's initial expence is not just for 'what you can get today, but for the whole life of the console').
Yes. I agree with solid.
Certainly not 'dire'.
Or hey, just keep boltering your contorted opinion of me by mis-quoting me if you like.
Reminder:
Same with the 360. This batch = dire when you compare it to that games we all expect to be seeing in the future
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
\o/
Carlo wrote:
Nope, still don't see it as 'dire'. Do you know what 'dire' means?
wasp wrote:
At least *try* to keep it in context! I said 'Dire' when you eventually compare the launch games with the games for it in 1 or 2 years time (in reply to the idea that a console's initial expence is not just for 'what you can get today, but for the whole life of the console').
Yes. I agree with solid.
Certainly not 'dire'.
Or hey, just keep boltering your contorted opinion of me by mis-quoting me if you like.
So as well as mis-quoting me, you want to add insulting my intelligence to the list.
Gee thanks wasp.gif)
Now I know where you got the inspiration for your forum name. How's that application to saint-hood going? -
EGBartonFink 914 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBlerk wrote:
Hence the ikke
EGBartonFink wrote:
You jest, surely?
Any chance of keeping this one out of the realms of fanboy ranting guys?
Not a snowballs chance in hell eh? -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
Well I guess I'm just a bit more enthusiastic about what's around the corner for the 360 than you are.
Dire:
1. very bad: characterized by severe, serious, or desperate circumstances
2. threatening disaster: warning of a future disaster or serious consequences
No way you can swing that, I'm sorry.
BTW: I'm more inclined to define 'Dire' close to 'awful' (there are many other definitions in other contexts) in this particular case. -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI'll try and put it another way for you then wasp.
Do you think the launch titles for the 360 are likely to be among the best games we're going to see during the lifetime of the console?
Do you think the first batch of games for the 360 (or any console) are on average, the best, or the worst in the entire collection of a console's games?
Do you think the games for the 360 will be vastly improved by the time the PS3 is available in every country?
If you're answering 'no' to any of those questions, I'd like to hear your rationale behind it. If you agree with me and think it's a 'yes' to those questions above, the only thing we disagree on is by how much the improvement is.
Or maybe you just like arguing for the sake of it.
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFuck off and make the tea would you Furbs? Adults talking -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFurbs wrote:
What like crappest?
Funny, I thought it was kids who invented their own definition of words
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
Sorry, was that a yes or a no?
1. I think the best games now will still be amongst the best, yes. They don't degrade in quality. PGR3 and CoD2 will still be good games in five years time. They certainly won't be considered 'awful' or 'dire'.
2. Neither, I don't deal in absolutes. PGR1 and Halo are still good games. So are Super Mario World, Pilotwings and F-Zero. So is Soul Calibur. SSX isn't exactly shit either.
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octo wrote:
It's the one thing I really don't get about all of this Blu Ray malarky. How the hell are sony going to be able to subsidised the cost of these suckers and keep the unit below three or four hundred pounds?
Don't forget that they make a packet out of the games and DVDs, and they have to win the DVD format war at all costs!!! -
megastar 17,238 posts
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFurbs wrote:
Pity a dictionary didn't.
BBC seem to think its a word. Plus I wasnt attempting to define it.
Still good argument so far - a "you're a kid" comment and a pedantic spelling correction, keep going, you're convincing me
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
Sure, if it helps you dodge them, why not
Carlo wrote:
Would you rather I'd have replied "your questions are meaningless absolutes" instead?
wasp wrote:
Sorry, was that a yes or a no?
1. I think the best games now will still be amongst the best, yes. They don't degrade in quality. PGR3 and CoD2 will still be good games in five years time. They certainly won't be considered 'awful' or 'dire'.
2. Neither, I don't deal in absolutes. PGR1 and Halo are still good games. So are Super Mario World, Pilotwings and F-Zero. So is Soul Calibur. SSX isn't exactly shit either.
3. The implementation and graphics may improve, but they won't stop PGR3 being a fun driving game.
You could answer them "Jimbob, spoons, and hairy", but it'll be no closer.
It's pretty obvious you're not going to... So lets forget it. -
megastar 17,238 posts
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Registered 16 years agoocto wrote:
It's the one thing I really don't get about all of this Blu Ray malarky. How the hell are sony going to be able to subsidised the cost of these suckers and keep the unit below three or four hundred pounds?
I dont really see the problem - I paid £430 quid for my Dreamcast with a copy of powerstone - years ago.
I also sold it for £40 2 months later so I could go out for a few pints with my mates (It was the end of the month and i was skint) -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFurbs wrote:
Why's that? I know what it means and I;m comfortable with the context I used it in.
Heh, maybe you should use one the next time you use the word "dire" then?
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ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoJust because a developer has not got to grips with the full capabilities of a console does not make early games bad. -
paulf 517 posts
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Registered 16 years agonot sure that either bluray or HD-ROM will really take off, I reckon Hi Definition Video on Demand (which is already available on Telewest) will win out. Also I see digital distribution of games being more common as well. Maybe the real probelm with the whole hd thing at the moment is the cost of the monitors, and that people don't upgrade their teles that often if at all, so couple that with high cost of the players to make say a couple of grand to view a film you already have on DVD in hi-res mmmm its good but not that good -
megastar 17,238 posts
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Registered 16 years agoD'you know that awkward feeling you get when two people are arguing in the same room as you.
You generally have to make excuses to escape coz its too uncomfortable to stick around.
(Looks at his watch)
"Ooooh is that the time!? I think I left the oven on - must dash"
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
Actually, I don't have the inclination to sit here and squabble with you over if you think the word 'dire' was too stong a term insted of 'strong' for the launch games on the 360 when comparing it with some imaginary games that are in the future based on past performances of previous console games, and their initial launch games.
Carlo wrote:
Sure, if it helps you dodge them, why not
You could answer them "Jimbob, spoons, and hairy", but it'll be no closer.
It's pretty obvious you're not going to... So lets forget it.
I'm sure you'd like me to forget it, as you have no retort.
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowasp wrote:
Never played it. Why?
Carlo: is Soul Calibur dire? -
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"scrabble anyone"
(awkward silence whilst everyone stares at him like hes a piece of dirt)
"No?? Okay"
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