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reflux 21 Feb 2006 08:21:44 1,804 posts
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Canon 30D

What a lame upgrade. I was really hoping for this one but they haven't even made the viewfinder larger. 20D Mk II rather than a new model.

Too bad Nikons D200 is so darn noisy, guess I'll either have to wait or raise my loan and buy a Canon 5D.

Meh.

patlike 21 Feb 2006 11:51:40 920 posts
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The in-view FEL indicator is useful, as are the 1/3 ISO increments (although I'd be interested to see whether or not those 1/3 stops were actually valuable in a "get the shot" situation). The ISO reading in-view is a major change, that folder system rids that frankly stupid filing on the 20D cards, and spot metering is another massive plus. I can't really believe that's not on the 20D. But there's no way I'm upgrade to that. It's basically the camera the 20D should have been. But then, I guess that's the point.

1Ds or bust. Sod the 5D.

patlike 21 Feb 2006 11:54:43 920 posts
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And they should have definitely moved up to 11APs. There's nowhere near enough there to warrant buying it if you have the 20D. Nice touches, yeah, but if you're in the market for a DSLR I'd wait for the 30D to launch and catch a bargain as the 20D comes down in price.

reflux 21 Feb 2006 12:37:33 1,804 posts
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patlike wrote:
1Ds or bust. Sod the 5D.

Nah, TOO heavy (and expensive)! I just want a fairly sized camera with good low light performance. 5D is neat but at the same time I wish it was a bit more advanced for that price (more like Nikons D200 but with larger sensor). The (for me) ideal camera would probably be a body like the D200 but with 10MP on a 1.3x crop sensor.

The 30D looks a bit more attractive with the new 17-55mm/2.8 IS USM lens though. That could be a killer combination. Still, shame about the viewfinder.

Oh, Canon just started a new promotion with a cash back on the 5D btw. 200 UKP.

reflux 27 Feb 2006 21:53:32 1,804 posts
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otto wrote:
DPR have their D200 review up by the way.

Which proves, too noisy for me

Damn fine camera otherwise. Damn fine.

timo180 27 Feb 2006 22:00:31 2,714 posts
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reflux wrote:

otto wrote:
DPR have their D200 review up by the way.
Which proves, too noisy for me Damn fine camera otherwise. Damn fine.

Too noisy? Don't you take photos at Metal concerts? ;-)

patlike 28 Feb 2006 10:50:37 920 posts
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reflux wrote:

otto wrote:
DPR have their D200 review up by the way.
Which proves, too noisy for me Damn fine camera otherwise. Damn fine.

Was chatting with a pro at a press launch a few weeks ago, and he said exactly the same thing. The 20D sensor at high ISO is far cleaner, apparently.

byron_hinson 14 Jun 2006 18:08:32 1,529 posts
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Well I picked up a 30D to replace my D70 and really like it, colour quality is so much better too, far more vibrant. Got some shots I took last week up on my site http://www.byronhinson.com (looks dodgy on IE at the moment)

Edited by byron_hinson at 18:08:31 14-06-2006

byron_hinson 14 Jun 2006 18:15:25 1,529 posts
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Couldn't tell you now to be honest, played with loads of settings on the D70, I still think the D70 is a good camera, don't get me wrong. I just find Canon's latest models to show colours better, might just be a personal opinion though.

UncleLou Moderator 14 Jun 2006 18:24:30 40,723 posts
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Wouldn't that just be because of the Canon "picture styles", ie you're using some kind of post-processing in the camera?

The D70 pictures always look a bit dull, straight out of the camera, but as I understand it, that's just because it tries to deliver a neutral, conservative picture for the post-processing on the computer.

UncleLou Moderator 14 Jun 2006 18:25:45 40,723 posts
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On a sidenote, otto, do you happen to know anything about a D70/D50 successor?

I am sharing the D70 with the girl-friend, but I am starting to want one all for me alone.

byron_hinson 14 Jun 2006 18:25:52 1,529 posts
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I don't think picture styles were on the Canon 350D as well though were they? and they produced better colours by default over the D70 too. I could be wrong again there as the 350D is my mums!

Deleted user 14 June 2006 18:29:11

patlike wrote:1Ds or bust. Sod the 5D.

The 1Ds is a great camera but the LCD is very poor and it's quiet heavy. As a pro camera it's hard to beat. I haven't seen a 5D yet but on paper it looks to be a very fine camera.

Deleted user 14 June 2006 18:43:04

otto wrote:When's Photokina?

Late September, I'm hoping for lots of Sony Alpha announcements. \o/

reflux 19 Jun 2006 12:30:10 1,804 posts
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Keyser_Soze wrote:
The 1Ds is a great camera but the LCD is very poor and it's quiet heavy. As a pro camera it's hard to beat. I haven't seen a 5D yet but on paper it looks to be a very fine camera.

I took almost 4000 pictures with my new 5D this weekend. Will post comments and examples later this week. There are some weird Canon-stuff that I don't like, but the AF and exposure seems to be spot on compared to my Pentax gear. Like a giant point-and-shoot

(my arms are still tired from holding the 5D with a battery grip and a Canon 70-200/2.8 L-lens)

scitzoid-pingu 19 Jun 2006 12:56:01 786 posts
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Looks like Sony have already made good use of the Konica Minolta system here. There are some interesting lenses on that accessory list that should fit my KM 5D.