PS3 to cost $523 to make accrding to FT

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  • Jokerr 23 Feb 2006 09:05:56 204 posts
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  • bloke 23 Feb 2006 09:11:33 1,490 posts
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    Interesting.

    Has the air of authority, doesn't it? (sourced out of Japan I see)
  • Carlo 23 Feb 2006 09:35:59 21,801 posts
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    /wished the FT and all these other people would price up the Rev too...
  • Blerk Moderator 23 Feb 2006 09:40:30 48,222 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    /wished the FT and all these other people would price up the Rev too...
    Three pound fifty and a packet of Wrigleys.
  • malteaserhead 23 Feb 2006 09:41:26 13,443 posts
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    so it might cost $523 or $600 or $700 to make 0_o
    accurate predictions... :p
  • Carlo 23 Feb 2006 09:41:42 21,801 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Carlo wrote:
    /wished the FT and all these other people would price up the Rev too...
    Three pound fifty and a packet of Wrigleys.
    Packet of Wrigleys! Gah!

    /cancels pre-order
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 09:42:24
    That sounds far more plausible than that ridiculous $800 estimate quoted on the other thread. Yeah, a REVOLUTION estimate would be nice!!! :-)
  • ssuellid 23 Feb 2006 09:42:54 19,142 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    /wished the FT and all these other people would price up the Rev too...

    If you find out what is going to be in it I'm sure that someone will price it up for you. :)

    Nintendo don't seem to bother hyping the internals.
  • Carlo 23 Feb 2006 09:46:54 21,801 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    Carlo wrote:
    /wished the FT and all these other people would price up the Rev too...

    If you find out what is going to be in it I'm sure that someone will price it up for you. :)

    Nintendo don't seem to bother hyping the internals.
    Isn't it obvious?

    CPU = Mario & Luigi on hamster-wheels (see... The Rev is multi-core too!)
    GPU = Princess Peach, and Yoshi and a box of crayons
    Security = Bowser and Metroid tag-team
    Smash Bros to provide the dev kit sdk (of course). All written in 1337.

    The only question is the remote control...
  • Machiavel 23 Feb 2006 10:04:23 5,964 posts
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    Revolution's going to be very expensive. Just think of all those 500 dollar televisions they'll have to buy to source enough remotes...
  • Khanivor 23 Feb 2006 10:09:03 44,800 posts
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    How come people are swallowing the guestimate from CLSA (heard of them before? Me neither) and poo-pooed the guestimate of Merril Lynch? Anything to do with more fanboi friendly figures?

    If the report that dev tools still aren't available are true I'd say that is far more worrying then attempts to divine the cost of the console.
  • Tonka 23 Feb 2006 10:12:02 31,979 posts
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    Carlo wrote:

    CPU = Mario & Luigi on hamster-wheels (see... The Rev is multi-core too!)
    GPU = Princess Peach, and Yoshi and a box of crayons
    Security = Bowser and Metroid tag-team
    Smash Bros to provide the dev kit sdk (of course). All written in 1337.

    The only question is the remote control...

    Revmote = 1 magic bean in a red shell
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 10:15:27
    Khanivor wrote:
    How come people are swallowing the guestimate from CLSA (heard of them before? Me neither) and poo-pooed the guestimate of Merril Lynch? Anything to do with more fanboi friendly figures?
    I'm not actually a SONY fanboy, my money's on the Nintendo Revolution FTW!!! But Merril Lynch's figures just made no (common) sense to me. SONY, rich as they are, cannot afford to subsidise around $400 to a potential 100 million consumers.

    Just look at the figures. That would $40,000,000,000...
  • malteaserhead 23 Feb 2006 10:16:05 13,443 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    How come people are swallowing the guestimate from CLSA (heard of them before? Me neither) and poo-pooed the guestimate of Merril Lynch? Anything to do with more fanboi friendly figures?

    If the report that dev tools still aren't available are true I'd say that is far more worrying then attempts to divine the cost of the console.

    +1000
    or because it was reported in the FT?

    The article predicts that the PS3 could be $700
    only 50 quid less than the other prediction...

    Edited by malteaserhead at 10:17:18 23-02-2006
  • Khanivor 23 Feb 2006 10:16:16 44,800 posts
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    So the guy who says in this report that he has no clue about the real price of a BR drive - cost may drive up PS3 price by an extra $150 - is to be believed?

    Also, consider that a change of price may have something to do with becomming privvy to new information. Kinda happens all the time.

    EDIT: also , note where CLSA is located. Far more likely this report is Sony propoganda then the Merril Lynch one as some folk ridiculously have been suggesting.

    Edited by Khanivor at 10:17:25 23-02-2006
  • shirubagan 23 Feb 2006 10:17:46 954 posts
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    PS3 "as long as piece of string" claim experts.
  • Shinji 23 Feb 2006 10:23:21 5,902 posts
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    So the guy who says in this report that he has no clue about the real price of a BR drive - cost may drive up PS3 price by an extra $150 - is to be believed?

    Well, yeah. Because that, at least, is honest - unlike the Merrill Lynch report which was utterly fucking clueless and pretended to have an air of total authority on the subject. When you don't know something, it's far more useful to say in a report "we don't know" than it is to close your eyes, click your heels together, fart loudly and write down "$350" on a whim.

    As to the rest of his report, who knows? I doubt he has much more access to information than anyone else does, but his estimates do seem more reasonable overall. They're in the range that I'd expect a console priced at $350 to $400 to cost to manufacture at launch.
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 10:26:58
    I guess these reports are like weather forecasts, in so far as they are reporting the worst case scenario so investor's can know how expensive it potentially be...
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 10:28:50
    I'm sure Sony are capable of telling their potential investors. I'm finding it hard to believe that anyone gives credit to these reports anymore.
  • Khanivor 23 Feb 2006 10:29:46 44,800 posts
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    Isn't the whole point that Sony may well have bit off more then they can chew and are possibly going to be unable to build the PS3 at a cost you'd "expect a console priced at $350 to $400 to cost to manufacture at launch."?

    My simple point was people seem to be viewing this report with a far less critical eye then the ML, apparently for no other reason then it presents figures that are more comfortable.

    Oh, and CLSA is not a Jap company, it's an arm of a French bank.
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 10:36:13
    Just heard through the grapevine that nVidia has got RSX chips ready but is not expecting payment from Sony during the current financial quarter - ends in April. This would add fuel to the guesstimate that the PS3 will indeed not be released in Spring, with assembly only actually starting in spring.
  • GrayFox 23 Feb 2006 10:44:52 1,698 posts
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    People reactions tend to annoy me, I know it'll annoy me even more when the real price will be known. Multiple peeps at sony at the begining said that it will be expensive. Even knowing that there will be roll on "OMG! It's soo expensive!" for months. Just like in the "Black" case, developers and magazine editor said many many times that's strictly single player game with no multiplayer. Still loads of people ask "So it really doesn't have multiplayer??" and rant that indeed it doesn't have. Yeah, it was known for a decade!

    /hates people
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 10:54:41
    LeDilettante wrote:
    Just heard through the grapevine that nVidia has got RSX chips ready but is not expecting payment from Sony during the current financial quarter - ends in April. This would add fuel to the guesstimate that the PS3 will indeed not be released in Spring, with assembly only actually starting in spring.
    Surely that's a bust now. Spring is over the 1st of May in my books, meaning that PS3 could not possibly be arriving for Spring, because if it were, we'd all be up to our nerps in advertising!!!

    Am I right or what?!
  • Khanivor 23 Feb 2006 11:15:53 44,800 posts
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    And it's ridiculous because... you don't like the idea of a BR drive costing $350?

    With a Samsung standalone costing $1000 if the BR drive only costs $100 I wonder what accounts for the other $900... And why don't they just bung in a Cell chip to do all the processing?
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 11:16:44
    Khanivor wrote:
    And it's ridiculous because... you don't like the idea of a BR drive costing $350?

    With a Samsung standalone costing $1000 if the BR drive only costs $100 I wonder what accounts for the other $900... And why don't they just bung in a Cell chip to do all the processing?

    I've been wondering about that for a while now too.
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 11:58:57
    Telepathic.Geometry wrote:
    LeDilettante wrote:
    Just heard through the grapevine that nVidia has got RSX chips ready but is not expecting payment from Sony during the current financial quarter - ends in April. This would add fuel to the guesstimate that the PS3 will indeed not be released in Spring, with assembly only actually starting in spring.
    Surely that's a bust now. Spring is over the 21st of June in my books, meaning that PS3 could not possibly be arriving for Spring, because if it were, we'd all be up to our nerps in advertising!!!

    Am I right or what?!

    Fixed. But you're not wrong ;)
  • JackThompsonsAnArse 23 Feb 2006 12:33:59 1,441 posts
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    ALL tech analysis on costs is bullshit.

    How can you possibly forecast how much a BR drive will cost when they start manufacture, when there isn't a firm date that they'll start manufacture??

    Also, they do the 'simple' calculations, such as:

    cost to produce (now) x estimated overall take-up = overall loss on hardware

    When we all know that within a few months, the loss on a manufacture of a console starts to upturn into a profit!

    Don't get your knickers in a twist over this.
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 12:53:12
    LeDilettante wrote something to the effect of:
    Spring is over the 21st of June.

    o_0

    The geometer's understanding of the season:
    Spring:
    February
    March
    April
    (Generally rains a lot and plants spring up outta the ground)

    Summer:
    May
    June
    July
    (Very sunny, lovely and warm, everyone is happy/on holidays)

    Autumn:
    August
    September
    October
    (Very windy, leaves fall, nice colours a la Animal Crossing)

    Winter:
    November
    december
    January
    (It's cold as fook, everyone's cold and waiting on Spring)
  • malteaserhead 23 Feb 2006 12:55:08 13,443 posts
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    must have some Irish in ya!
    try looking it (spring) up on wikkipedia as linked in the comments section

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_%28season%29



    Edited by malteaserhead at 12:58:03 23-02-2006
  • Deleted user 23 February 2006 12:58:19
    malteaserhead wrote:
    must have some Irish in ya!
    try looking it (spring) up on wikkipedia as linked in the comments section
    Don't need Wikkipedia to tell me when it's generally wet, warm, windy and cold... I can tell the time by the moon and the stars too ya know! >:-)

    Oh, and don't ever call me Irish again. I hate those filthy Paddy's...

    Edited by Telepathic.Geometry at 12:58:54 23-02-2006
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