HDD mandatory for games but may not be included? • Gaming • PS3 • Eurogamer.net

spindizzy 15 Mar 2006 10:53:09 7,755 posts
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This must be a mistranslation/mistake surely? According to gamespot the PS3 will require a HDD:

Kutaragi also made it clear that the hard drive will be necessary to play games--Sony is telling developers to make games assuming every PS3 has a hard drive installed. "We view the Hard Drive to be mandatory for the PS3," he said. "Rather than have developers create games for the PS3 with or without the HDD, we will be asking them to develop games as though all PS3s have the HDD installed."

but it may not come as standard :

However, Kutaragi revealed that Sony had not decided whether or not the PlayStation 3 would come with the hard-drive pre-installed. "We might end up installing it in all PS3s, though that depends on the market," he said. This raises the possibility that the PS3 could be sold without a piece of hardware needed to play PS3 games--in effect forcing consumers to buy a peripheral for basic functionality.

That would be insane!

(apologies if this was mentioned on the other thread - I couldn't see it)

Edit: added link to other thread. And the title should be "HDD" - not talking about HiDef. Sorry.

Edited by spindizzy at 10:54:42 15-03-2006

ssuellid 15 Mar 2006 10:54:41 19,142 posts
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Maybe they think they can sell a hard disc less version for people who just buy a PS3 as a media player?

OnlyMe 15 Mar 2006 10:57:22 3,135 posts
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Either that, or it's a sign that there are no *good* games available at launch, so peope won't be needing the PS3 just yet, but you can buy one in advance and buy the HD whenever the first PS3 game worth buying is released.

ssuellid 15 Mar 2006 10:59:25 19,142 posts
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Why do the sell the PS2 without a memory card? Its pretty much essential but it means they can sell the console relatively cheaply and have a huge mark up on the memory card.

Stormflood_UK 15 Mar 2006 11:00:26 150 posts
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From IGN:

Earlier, we mistakenly reported that Sony would including the hard disk with the PS3 right out of the box. Kutaragi actually stopped short of confirming this, leaving it as an area of speculation for now. He did state that Sony hopes to avoid a situation where some systems have the drive and others don't (Kutaragi didn't mention Xbox 360, but he was probably thinking it).

dsmx 15 Mar 2006 11:01:01 8,640 posts
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i've seen reports stating that it does come as standard and ones that don't depending on the sites you go to, so think positive it will come as standard. Or just wait for the keynote speech at e3.

spindizzy 15 Mar 2006 11:03:51 7,755 posts
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ssuellid wrote:
Why do the sell the PS2 without a memory card? Its pretty much essential but it means they can sell the console relatively cheaply and have a huge mark up on the memory card.

True, but the HDD will be a lot more expensive.

ssuellid 15 Mar 2006 11:06:46 19,142 posts
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spindizzy wrote:
True, but the HDD will be a lot more expensive.

Ł60 for a 60GB 2.5" drive at the moment.

Stormflood_UK 15 Mar 2006 11:09:16 150 posts
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I'm thinking... nay, hoping... that the confusion may be due to it being an upgradeable peripheral. I mean, how do you split bundles for those who want the minimum 60Gb drive for gaming, those who want a 300Gb for media storage and homebrew, and those who want the cheapest BluRay on the market that doesn't need an HDD?

I'm not sure how they will play this one. And I'm not sure they do either.

Edited by Stormflood_UK at 11:10:17 15-03-2006

ssuellid 15 Mar 2006 11:09:34 19,142 posts
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frod wrote:
How much is 8MB of flash memory

Couple of quid.

I could not find a 20G drive but a 40GB is around Ł40 so thats quite a mark up by MS.

spindizzy 15 Mar 2006 11:16:11 7,755 posts
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Stormflood_UK wrote:
I'm thinking... nay, hoping... that the confusion may be due to it being an upgradeable peripheral. I mean, how do you split bundles for those who want the minimum 60Gb drive for gaming, those who want a 300Gb for media storage and homebrew, and those who want the cheapest BluRay on the market that doesn't need an HDD?

I'm not sure how they will play this one. And I'm not sure they do either.

Edited by Stormflood_UK at 11:10:17 15-03-2006

Actually that makes sense. I wonder if it will be possible to buy a 20Mb drive, crack the case open and replace it with a bigger one?

IF (if if if if) the PS3 is going to have Tivo functionality, then I want a very large drive.

DangerM0use 15 Mar 2006 11:16:45 742 posts
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ssuellid wrote:

frod wrote:
How much is 8MB of flash memory

Couple of quid.

I could not find a 20G drive but a 40GB is around Ł40 so thats quite a mark up by MS.

20Gb

Retroid Moderator 15 Mar 2006 11:30:54 45,464 posts
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Stormflood_UK wrote:
homebrew

Oh, you are a joker, aren't you?

Like Sony will allow that. Look at what they're doing on the PSP.

They'll be some way to prevent that, even from the Linux it 'supports'

Blerk Moderator 15 Mar 2006 11:36:13 48,222 posts
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If it's mandatory then it has to be included, surely? Memory cards are not included with PS2s, but you can still use the PS2 without one (as pointless as that would seem).

I was surmising it'd come with a standard unit and other 'larger' units will be available to buy separately or as part of more expensive bundles.

But you can't flog something without a bit of kit that is required before you can even use it. That's like selling a car with no wheels.

Carlo 15 Mar 2006 11:36:34 21,801 posts
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Mods, please 'fix' the subject. HDD, not HD.

spindizzy 15 Mar 2006 11:47:02 7,755 posts
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You're probably right frod. Wasn't it nice when the primary aim of games consoles was games?

/curses convergence!

Stormflood_UK 15 Mar 2006 13:36:57 150 posts
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Retroid wrote:

Stormflood_UK wrote:
homebrew
Oh, you are a joker, aren't you?

Like Sony will allow that. Look at what they're doing on the PSP.

They'll be some way to prevent that, even from the Linux it 'supports'

I'm a joker.

Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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Just because he's asking them to assume it will have a harddrive, its not the same as using it though? Otherwise there'd be no crossplatform titles.