PS3 60Gb HDD as standard, in-the box - confirmed

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  • Stormflood_UK 17 Mar 2006 19:37:39 150 posts
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    Probably old. Do I care? No. Here's the link:

    LINKY

    ...and upgradeable if you can't be bothered to read it. This is why the HDD is classed as a peripheral, not a built-in component, and why confusion as to whether it would come in-the-box ensued.

    Edited by Stormflood_UK at 19:44:54 17-03-2006
  • oceanmotion 17 Mar 2006 19:46:12 17,358 posts
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    Still won't believe it till I see it. Don't trust Sony at all.
  • Stormflood_UK 17 Mar 2006 20:03:11 150 posts
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    I think it's a tad extreme to think a games console would be shipped that wouldn't play games.

    Sure, you had to buy memory cards for PS2 to save games, but the damn thing still played games. The 360 core system requires memory cards without an HDD, but it can still play games without the peripheral.

    Believing that even Sony, no matter what your hatred for them, would ship a completely non-functioning games console is utterly ridiculous.

    Edited by Stormflood_UK at 20:03:48 17-03-2006
  • Derblington 17 Mar 2006 20:04:37 35,161 posts
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    Why would the PS3 not be able to play games without the HDD?
  • EGBartonFink 17 Mar 2006 20:07:49 914 posts
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    Yea I'm confused too .. wtf are you on about Stormflood
  • Pirotic Moderator 17 Mar 2006 20:08:46 20,644 posts
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    It'll cost a fortune with a HDD, but it would give the PS3 a big advantage in the eyes of developers, the xbox having the HDD as an extra was (and still is) a really fucking stupid idea, next to the Wavebird not having the rumble feature, it splits the userbase and restricts what you can do as a developer.
  • EGBartonFink 17 Mar 2006 20:09:38 914 posts
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    Yup that really was a very stupid idea by MS and I still don't understand their reasoning.

    Edited by EGBartonFink at 20:10:16 17-03-2006
  • Whizzo 17 Mar 2006 20:09:43 44,810 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    Why would the PS3 not be able to play games without the HDD?
    Because Sony is telling developers to make games with the fact the hard drive is there.
  • phAge 17 Mar 2006 20:10:55 25,487 posts
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    Pirotic wrote:
    It'll cost a fortune with a HDD, but it would give the PS3 a big advantage in the eyes of developers, the xbox having the HDD as an extra was (and still is) a really fucking stupid idea, next to the Wavebird not having the rumble feature, it splits the userbase and restricts what you can do as a developer.
    Very good point. Nice way of pointlessly hobbling the (already potentially underpowered) 360 there, MS.
  • Derblington 17 Mar 2006 20:11:15 35,161 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
    Derblington wrote:
    Why would the PS3 not be able to play games without the HDD?
    Because Sony is telling developers to make games with the fact the hard drive is there.
    I know, but that wouldn't make them unplayable. It would mean they load slower and you wouldn't be able to save, unless we're installing console games now?
  • Jokerr 17 Mar 2006 20:15:42 204 posts
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    Good move by Sony I think. Only thing that bothers me, is how much is all this going to cost?
  • EGBartonFink 17 Mar 2006 20:16:43 914 posts
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  • Whizzo 17 Mar 2006 20:20:55 44,810 posts
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    Furbs wrote:
    I thought the quote was quite ambiguous.

    Wasnt it "We are telling developers to work on the assumption that a hard drive will be present".
    That's hardly ambiguous.
  • EGBartonFink 17 Mar 2006 20:21:49 914 posts
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    Furbs wrote:
    I thought the quote was quite ambiguous.

    Wasnt it "We are telling developers to work on the assumption that a hard drive will be present".

    You could interpret that as them saying "If you want to make a game which needs the HDD, or will take advantage of it, go right ahead, we dont mind either way".
    That kinda precludes it not being present.
  • jozz 17 Mar 2006 20:25:17 4,871 posts
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    Article about the news
    It sounds very up in the air from that account of it. Have to wait till it's all clear and out there I suppose.
  • Whizzo 17 Mar 2006 20:26:54 44,810 posts
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    Microsoft says : do not assume there is a hard drive
    Sony says : assume there is a hard drive

    Those statements are completely opposite in meaning.
  • phAge 17 Mar 2006 20:29:31 25,487 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
    Microsoft says : do not assume there is a hard drive
    Sony says : assume there is a hard drive

    Those statements are completely opposite in meaning.
    Not necessarily. MS meant that they won't allow devs to make games that require a HDD to work.

    Sony posibly means that they WILL allow devs to make games that need a HDD to work - but that doesn't mean that the HDD will come with the standard PS3.

    I still think you're right, tho.

    Edited by phAge at 20:31:13 17-03-2006
  • Whizzo 17 Mar 2006 20:30:09 44,810 posts
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    I think I'll channel Hyoushi as he's not about as this is all very silly and bordering on Joystiq levels :-

    I like games.
  • brutal 17 Mar 2006 20:49:32 883 posts
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    look at the shitstorm ChampMan has caused

    what shitstorm?
    linky please! :)



    Edited by brutal at 20:50:41 17-03-2006
  • Stormflood_UK 18 Mar 2006 11:25:07 150 posts
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    I think a few people here are forcing ambiguity upon anything Sony says. Sure, I can understand sniggers when Sony claim the PS3 will be more powerful than all the gods and make us question reality as we know it, but when they tell devs to create games for an HDD-equipped console, and say it will come in-the-box as standard, where the fuck is the ambiguity?

    Meh... looks like MS have succeeded in making us all believe they never bullshit, and that Sony never speak the truth. /slow clap
  • EGBartonFink 18 Mar 2006 11:30:59 914 posts
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    Nah Sony have done a good job of that all by their lonesome.
  • Qbert2k 18 Mar 2006 13:48:21 246 posts
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  • jozz 18 Mar 2006 13:48:35 4,871 posts
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    Deleted post renders my reply meaningless.
    Nothing to see here, move along.

    Edited by jozz at 13:50:58 18-03-2006
  • tenma 19 Mar 2006 03:49:29 199 posts
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    I think a few people here are forcing ambiguity upon anything Sony says. Sure, I can understand sniggers when Sony claim the PS3 will be more powerful than all the gods and make us question reality as we know it, but when they tell devs to create games for an HDD-equipped console, and say it will come in-the-box as standard, where the fuck is the ambiguity?


    As much as I'd love to believe this is true, 1) It's Yahoo reporting this and 2) the only source we have to go by is a "sony representative" which, for all we know, could be some intern who's hearing info from other dubious sources.

    When kutaragi, harrison, or someone else higher up confirms it then that's when i'll be relieved.
  • IronGiant 20 Mar 2006 00:10:34 6,352 posts
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    Well considering they're trying to out-do MS wherever they can then this makes perfect sense.. also i assume they're hoping drives will continue to drop in price. Gonna be a very interesting christmas for gamers.. again!!
  • Blerk Moderator 20 Mar 2006 16:44:00 48,222 posts
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    Confirmed by another source.
  • GrandTheftApu 20 Mar 2006 16:57:45 6,117 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Confirmed by another source.

    They also say it's upgradeable which is another bonus.
  • ssuellid 20 Mar 2006 17:16:03 19,142 posts
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    I'll wait till the official pricing before taking what anyone says as a spec for granted. It would not suprise me if SCEE just assumed like everyone else had from Kens speech rather than getting proper confirmation from Japan - and even if they did are they 100% sure?

    The HDD seems like too nice a bit of kit to drop the potential profit on that selling it as a option would provide.
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