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All I'm gonna say is one word.....and to place emphasis on it I'm not going to make it bold. I'm not gonna make it italic. I'm going to say it 3 times. Programming Programming Programming. It is how well a developer understands the hardware they are developing for that determines how good a game is, and how good a games graphics are. Besides, its impossible to compare dodgey screen caps of an unreleased game, jeez. What a joke. The game may well look like this latest 'brilliant quality' screen cap, or it might be as good as Sony says. Who knows. The X360 might be beating the pants off the PS3 when its finally released, as it will have had a year longer 'crack of the whip' by developers. On the other hand, it might not. Just call the thread PS3 Flamefest FFS, and put it on another forum for that matter. Start comparing consoles when the PS3, Rev and X360 have been out for a few years. Oops, said more than 3 words there. Ah well Edited by zErOb_cOOl at 19:13:33 30-03-2006 |
The TRUE PS3 graphics!! • Page 3
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zErOb_cOOl 3,237 posts
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SirScratchalot 7,921 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIs anyone here actually surprised by this?
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urban 13,148 posts
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Registered 17 years agoKhanivor wrote:
More so then a Sony press release?
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Registered 17 years agoRetroid wrote:
Freek wrote:
At least someone gets them!
UK:R is just doing it's typical thing; exadurate and scream for the sake of humor..gif)
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urban wrote:
Bless.
15 year olds. yes
Because 15 year olds would know what they fuck UK:R are on about most of the time when it comes to Sega stuff
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Freek wrote:If you take all that into acount, along with developer talk that the 360 and PS3 are closely matched, the fact that launch titles usually dissapoint. And you get the feeling that the next generation of consoles will indeed be verry close to what was inntially anounced in terms of visuals.
And a year from now we'll just be playing those games instead of moaning about the usual E3 hype.
The thing that annoyed me about Sony's approach last E3 was the complete lack of any realism in what they were doing. They simply threw a huge amount of cash at generating the biggest amount of hype possible and seemingly didn't care for the eventual correlation between what they were showing and what the eventual reality would be.
With that Killzone vid, specifically, there is simply no way the PS3 will ever be capable of visuals like that - gawd knows how much offline processing time it took but it'll not be showing it's face in realtime for a generation or two yet.
Yes you could congratulate Sony's marketing department on all this but frankly I despise such an approach. Personally I'd prefer the situation where the machine generating the most excitement amongst the public and press alike is the one with the most interesting and best titles of them all. And as (I think) T.G said on a previous page - if you have something genuinely interesting or good to show, where is the need to lie about it? -
vermin wrote:
We didn't hear Sony correct the press did we?
tengu wrote:
It used to be mentioned all the time. Until it was pointed out that, like the Killzone Halo-killer stuff, it was made up by the "press" and didn't come from Sony.
jozz wrote:
Yeah, funny how you never see that mentioned isn't it?
The emotion engine would be able to render toy story like graphics would it (although MS also made this claim I think)?
And if the footage had no correlation with the real game, (making it inappropriate), why would they show it?
More to the point, wouldn't we expect the press to assume that the footage was an indication of what in-game footage would be like?
Edit: Sorry guys, this shit always gets my back up. I can't stand it when reasonable people accept false advertising and unrealistic hype.
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UncleLou wrote:
Good find, there was a couple of even uglier screens linked from a GT thread when we had a similar discussion years ago.
Early GT3 shot for comparison purposes
And another one
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drumbaby 2,688 posts
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Registered 17 years agoWe didn't hear Sony correct the press did we?
Why should they?
Can you think of a single logical reason, when letting the press do their usual botched thing could inadvertently help sell Sony millions of consoles?
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Registered 18 years agovermin wrote:
tengu wrote:
It used to be mentioned all the time. Until it was pointed out that, like the Killzone Halo-killer stuff, it was made up by the "press" and didn't come from Sony.
jozz wrote:
Yeah, funny how you never see that mentioned isn't it?
The emotion engine would be able to render toy story like graphics would it (although MS also made this claim I think)?
Hmmm.....
Sony France press release
Also, the Motorstorm and Killzone E3 vids have now been confirmed as being made by a CGI animation company called RealTimeUK. Their head honcho was talking about them at the Animex festival in February (their involvement was first rumoured by Edge magazine after E3 and in August 2005). He also said that they've made 3 more films for Sony for this year's E3. So watch EG's "real next gen" reports this year, guys!
The key thing in this is that, historically, RealTimeUK's films have used their own inhouse assets. Therefore neither Evolution nor Guerrilla are likely to have had any of their own assets used in the vids at all. And yes, this makes the vids a complete and total lie, at least in the way they were presented as game footage. -
drumbaby wrote:
I think you're missing my point. Sony showed a video at E3 to illustrate their game - what the fuck else are people supposed to think but that the video footage is representative of what the finished product will look like?
We didn't hear Sony correct the press did we?
Why should they?
Can you think of a single logical reason, when letting the press do their usual botched thing could inadvertently help sell Sony millions of consoles?
Thought not.
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Registered 20 years ago@Eighthours - Oh dear that really does make an arse of EG's 'real next gen' article now doesn't it. -
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Registered 17 years agoTelepathic.Geometry wrote:
It'd be nice for Sony to do the decent honest thing, sure.
drumbaby wrote:
I think you're missing my point. Sony showed a video at E3 to illustrate their game - what the fuck else are people supposed to think but that the video footage is representative of what the finished product will look like?
We didn't hear Sony correct the press did we?
Why should they?
Can you think of a single logical reason, when letting the press do their usual botched thing could inadvertently help sell Sony millions of consoles?
Thought not.
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But I wouldn't expect them to say, "Hey, look, our console is merely comparable to the XBox 360 in terms of power! Please buy whichever takes your fancy! That said, enjoy a whole year with only XBox 360 on the market. Bye!" -
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Registered 20 years agoRooney wrote:
I think most of them are linked in here
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jozz wrote:
After all the false promises about the PS2 and it's still being done :/
Edited by jozz at 17:18:59 30-03-2006
What were those false promises? The PS2 achieved everything they said it would.... eventually.
No they didnt. :\
Yeah, there was a huge difference, about 75 million units or so.
Quantity != quality.
Anyway, when you look at the ammount of titles that are both xbx2 & ps3, you can bet your arse of that they will look identical. There where loads of games for ps2 and xbx. They rarely looked different, not because the xbx couldnt handle it, but because there was no point in enhancing the graphics from a financial pov. The cheapest solution is usually the 'chosen one'.
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Registered 20 years agoI kinda have to agree with verm on this one although it did take them a bloody long time to do it and now it's nearly time for PS3. -
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Registered 19 years agoI'm surprised anyone feels fooled. These videos are meant to show what the developers think they might be able to pull off with the new hardware. Do you think any of them went "Gee, I don't know, perhaps our games will look like crap, let's do some crappy target renders."
Of course not.
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Registered 19 years agoLast time I checked I had one (1) penis and two (2) balls (inside of a scrotum) hanging between my legs. So I would say no, infact, I am not a cunt. -
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Registered 17 years agoRatchet and Clank stuff looks nice. -
CrispyXUK wrote:
target renders? you some sort of cunt?
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Registered 20 years agoTrip SkyWay wrote:
Aye hopefully it will look like that in the end, knowing Sony though (oi who took the salt!)
Ratchet and Clank stuff looks nice. -
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Registered 17 years agoBartonFink>
Yeah know waht you mean. The week after I played my first ps2 I went out and bought a DC, I'd fallen for all the sony hype. -
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Registered 20 years agoAs did many many others -
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Registered 18 years agoBartonFink wrote:
I kinda have to agree with verm on this one although it did take them a bloody long time to do it and now it's nearly time for PS3.
Yeah, the PS2 videos are crap compared to a lot of the PS2 games today. Looking at the Tekken tech demo or the Final Fantasy VIII tech demo (which people seem to remember being as good as or better than the pre-rendered scene from the actual game on PSone - but clearly isn't), I have a feeling that the PS3 will surpass its tech demos some time in the future.
Some people (appearently most, judging by the popularity of Sony-hate) need to take a reality check and realize that the PS2 DID live up to its expectations - if you were smart enough to believe your eyes instead of the hype words. -
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Registered 17 years agoIt definately became a great machine, or rather was eventually used well. But initially I was pretty disapointed by the gulf between expectations and what was delivered at launch.
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When it came to developers, it simply HAD to be pushed, and pushed hard. They had too much money riding on it not to.
I'd predict all the 'next gen' consoles to surprise us in the coming years, all machines do. That's what I'm looking forward to -
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