Will The Wii be a Success? • Gaming • Wii • Eurogamer.net

Sid-Nice 27 Jul 2006 02:29:54 15,848 posts
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It saddens me to say this; but I think Nintendo’s next home console will fail to catch the imagination of the gaming public. I was initially excited about the Wii and the Wii-mote controller; but as the launch of the console draws nearer it appears that Nintendo have lost the plot. I think the unexpected success of the Nintendo DS could be a major factor in the failure of the Wii. Nintendo think graphics don’t matter; well they don’t on a handheld console. As I look at the Launch line up on IGN I can’t help but think “These multi-platform games are going to look shit on the Wii.” Both Zelda and Metroid look mediocre on the Wii and playability wise the Twilight Princess doesn’t cut the mustard at the moment; this leaves Mario as the only franchise Nintendo have left.

Don’t get me wrong there will be fun to be had; but if Mario, Metroid and Zelda aren’t AAA titles Nintendo might as well give up.

PS: I haven't been possessed by albundy.

Genji 27 Jul 2006 02:34:35 19,682 posts
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Sid Nice wrote:
It saddens me to say this; but I think Nintendo’s next home console will fail to catch the imagination of the gaming public.

How about the non-gaming public?

Consider how many non-gamers bought the DS for the Brain Training game.

ilmaestro 27 Jul 2006 02:34:45 32,932 posts
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'The Power of Miyamoto compels you, the Power of Miyamoto compels you...'

ytzulu 27 Jul 2006 02:35:38 183 posts
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For crying out loud just give it a chance , let it come out, if it turns out shite - post another moan thread.

Deleted user 27 July 2006 02:39:12

Meh, thread like these are the reason I avoid the Nintendo VIP website.

Console success/failure discussions get an enormous thumbs down.

I see where you're coming from though.

Deleted user 27 July 2006 03:06:27

Foolish, foolish....

Deleted user 27 July 2006 03:26:10

Playabilty wise Twilight Princess doesn't cut the mustard at the mo? Jaysus, I wish I could playtest it too. :'(

Sid-Nice 27 Jul 2006 03:26:15 15,848 posts
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DS sales have been phenomenal; especially when Nintendo were looking for a 10% share of the handheld market. In the US in June the DS sold more units than the PS2 and 360 combined sales; in Japan the DS is doing even better with about 67% of the total market. But there still are a lot of negative comments concerning the Wii even from diehard Nintendo sites. Like I say if Nintendo are full of confidence because of the DS revolution and believe that the Wii will succeed because it is different; they might be in for a shock.

Carrybagma 27 Jul 2006 03:55:28 3,904 posts
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Think you're wrong there. I very much expect the Wii promotional campaign to be the most wide-spread out of the next-gen consoles. e.g. ads in 'Womans Own'. Nintendo have been quite good at convincing journos that games/consoles are 'news' recently, with 'Brain Training' popping up everywhere. 'Wii Sports' might do the same for the Wii, with hearty Daily Mail coverage applauding the promotion of 'family' gaming etc etc.

That list looks a bit uninspired, but then all lists do, don't they? There's one or two on there which might be completely different to what we're used to though.

Carrybagma 27 Jul 2006 04:04:24 3,904 posts
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Oh - but if Microsoft drop the price of a 360 core down to say £199 in November, that will certainly bugger things up for Nintendo.

I really hope they're anticipating a 360 price drop and how best to respond, because a Wii priced at £150+ is not going to compete very well against a £199 360.

yiannis 27 Jul 2006 04:06:29 308 posts
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Wii is teh SuXX0R!!

/runs away lightning fast!!!

Carrybagma 27 Jul 2006 04:07:55 3,904 posts
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Bugger nextgen - I'm most looking forward to 'The Phantom Hourglass' myself.

Deleted user 27 July 2006 04:17:19

wot dat?

Carrybagma 27 Jul 2006 04:21:35 3,904 posts
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Zelda on the DS.

Sid-Nice 27 Jul 2006 04:30:29 15,848 posts
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The Wii will retail for £139.99; many websites have the price at £133 which is $250. Nintendo hope to have shipped/sold 7 million Wii units by the end of their fiscal year March 31st 2007. If they can manage that; the world will be Nintendo's oyster. If Nintendo can get the balance between (Fun Games) a quick blast of Wii-mote madness and (Serious Games) a 30+ hour adventure; I'll certainly be sold.

Sid-Nice 27 Jul 2006 04:55:09 15,848 posts
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My Wii release prediction dates are....

Japan. 12/10/06
USA. 21/11/06
Europe. 1/12/06

Nintendo could hold back and launch the console in the US first; considering how well the DS did over Thanksgiving 2005. I'm predicting release dates and ATI haven't finished developing the graphics processor yet; I have heard that there's quite a few Flipper GPU's lying about at ATI.

SlackMaster 27 Jul 2006 08:15:20 3,156 posts
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Genji wrote:

Sid Nice wrote:
It saddens me to say this; but I think Nintendo’s next home console will fail to catch the imagination of the gaming public.
How about the non-gaming public?

Consider how many non-gamers bought the DS for the Brain Training game.

I recommended a DS to a 39 yr old collegue at work recently. In the past he'd dissmissed the DS as a bit of a shit console as he already had a PSP.

When the Lite came out and I had it at work his opinion changed completely and just this morning he said he brought one and didn't realise what he'd been missing.

He'd gotten bored of the PSP and the games available and saw braintraining and Zoo Tycoon and thought the DS was the console for him.

I think that many concentrate on graphics as though they are the measure that make a console 'next-gen' but in reality you can have the same or similar experience on your PS2 or Xbox. For me Nintendo are doing something different and exciting, and with the unexpected success of the DS I think it's the kinda thing the market really wants/needs.

Edited by SlackMaster at 08:17:16 27-07-2006

BartonFink 27 Jul 2006 08:17:53 35,268 posts
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InfanticideRules wrote:

Everything will be mini-games, everything will be overly-sanitized, "E" rated, spastic arm-waving, princess-saving, coin-collecting, block-busting, "oh-so" fun & quirky! (tm), full-price-Tamagotchi-masquerading-as-dog-rearin' HELL.

lol - well ranted

Carlo 27 Jul 2006 08:43:31 21,801 posts
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Sid, I think it will do very well in EU, USA and Japan. Globally, it'll be in second place in terms of units sold. I also think there will be a far greater involvement from third parties.

I don't think 'Nintendo' as a name/brand will be synonamous with the term 'console' like it used to be, and it'll still be 'playstation' as it seems to have been since the PS1's release.

Dexter 27 Jul 2006 09:11:46 1,060 posts
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Sid Nice wrote:
It saddens me to say this; but I think Nintendo’s next home console will fail to catch the imagination of the gaming public.

Gaming public != Wii's target market

Nintendo are trying to develop a new market while Sony and Microsoft are left fighting over the stagnant "hardcore gamer" market.

Deleted user 27 July 2006 09:16:41

So people who buy Nintendo stuff aren't hardcore gamers anymore?

Dexter 27 Jul 2006 09:21:29 1,060 posts
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/picks up a Starman and jumps on boabg's head

DaM 27 Jul 2006 09:24:49 17,729 posts
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If it does, it won't be due to the old franchises, it will be Brain Training type doo dahs. Look at the media attention/free publicity Brain Training gets.

Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 09:25:14 48,222 posts
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Sid Nice wrote:
The Wii will retail for £139.99

Heh heh. Yeah, sure it will. :-)

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Deleted user 27 July 2006 09:28:14

Dexter wrote:
/picks up a Starman and jumps on boabg's head

Thanks for that. I think it'll be a relative success ie. it'll make Nintendo a profit.

Carlo 27 Jul 2006 09:32:57 21,801 posts
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boabg wrote:
So people who buy Nintendo stuff aren't hardcore gamers anymore?

O_O

How did you come to that conclusion?!?!?! Because of what Dextrer said?

Deleted user 27 July 2006 09:34:30

Well it was the post directly above it.

Carlo 27 Jul 2006 09:50:02 21,801 posts
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CrispyXUK wrote:
Is UK opinion changing?

What was the UK opinion and what is it now?

Dexter 27 Jul 2006 09:55:23 1,060 posts
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ecosse_011172 wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Please stop spouting this shite!
Zelda, SMG, Metroid, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Project H.A.M.M.E.R just to begin with are for the "hardcore" gamer market. Ninty have ALWAYS insisted that they are trying to appeal to a new market AS WELL AS continuing the cater for hardcore gamers.

Wii Sports, Tony Hawks etc. will be

Sorry, I took the "as well as" bit for granted.
Now take a few deep breaths....and relax.