Will The Wii be a Success? Page 2

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  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 10:22:43 48,222 posts
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    I think the Wii will be a success and will turn a tidy profit for Nintendo.

    I don't, however, believe it will 'lead the pack'.
  • Sid-Nice 27 Jul 2006 10:40:01 15,848 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    I think the Wii will be a success and will turn a tidy profit for Nintendo.

    I don't, however, believe it will 'lead the pack'.
    But what the analyst are predicting is the Wii will be everyone's second console; which could possibly make the Wii the top selling console.
  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 10:40:55 48,222 posts
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    Sid Nice wrote:
    But what the analyst are predicting is the Wii will be everyone's second console; which could possibly make the Wii the top selling console.
    Not all analysts, as this report that popped up this morning shows.
  • Deleted user 27 July 2006 10:43:10
    ""Hardcore gamers will probably prefer the raw power of PS3. And for all the positive vibes right now, the Wii isn't expected to outsell the PS3."

    Is it me or is being an analyst a piss easy job?
  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 10:43:17 48,222 posts
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    ecosse_011172 wrote:
    Which I think is utter shite, very few people outside of forums like these have more than one console and Nintendo certainly aren't aiming to be everyone's 2nd choice.
    I'd agree - is it not the case that the Cube is already 'most people's second console'? And that was hardly a rampaging success story, was it?
  • Sid-Nice 27 Jul 2006 10:43:55 15,848 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Sid Nice wrote:
    But what the analyst are predicting is the Wii will be everyone's second console; which could possibly make the Wii the top selling console.
    Not all analysts, as this report that popped up this morning shows.
    And k.o.t.i said "The PSP will outsell the DS by 40-1." And he had inside information. :)
  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 10:44:02 48,222 posts
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    disussedgenius wrote:
    Is it me or is being an analyst a piss easy job?
    How to be an analyst in four easy steps:

    1. Turn up for work.
    2. Make shit up.
    3. Get paid gazillions.
    4. Get off your head on coke.
  • Deleted user 27 July 2006 10:44:51
    Blerk wrote:
    disussedgenius wrote:
    Is it me or is being an analyst a piss easy job?
    How to be an analyst in four easy steps:

    1. Turn up for work.
    2. Make shit up.
    3. Get paid gazillions.
    4. Get off your head on coke.

    Thats my job in IT support except for the gazillions bit!
  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 10:45:31 48,222 posts
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    Sid Nice wrote:
    And k.o.t.i said "The PSP will outsell the DS by 40-1." And he had inside information. :)
    Precisely. Which tells you exactly what you need to know - all 'analysts' need to be completely ignored, as you can never predict what the public will actually do.
  • Deleted user 27 July 2006 10:47:19
    boabg wrote:
    Blerk wrote:
    disussedgenius wrote:
    Is it me or is being an analyst a piss easy job?
    How to be an analyst in four easy steps:

    1. Turn up for work.
    2. Make shit up.
    3. Get paid gazillions.
    4. Get off your head on coke.

    Thats my job in IT support except for the gazillions bit!

    It's also my job as a graduate bum, except the work.


    ...or the gazillions...


    ...or the coke.


    plenty of the number 2 though.
  • Sid-Nice 27 Jul 2006 10:48:46 15,848 posts
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    Success for the Nintendo Wii in Europe could be down to the distributors and shelf space in video game stores.
  • Kay 27 Jul 2006 11:04:49 21,321 posts
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    I'm sure that in the short term, the Wii will be a success. But in the long term, I'm not so sure - after all, the GC was a success at launch and then slumped rather spectacularly.

    Also, the Wii seems like a bit too much of a gimmick to work on a home console.

    K
  • SirScratchalot 27 Jul 2006 11:13:11 7,921 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Sid Nice wrote:
    But what the analyst are predicting is the Wii will be everyone's second console; which could possibly make the Wii the top selling console.
    Not all analysts, as this report that popped up this morning shows.

    People who speculate not in total agreement! I'm shocked!
  • SirScratchalot 27 Jul 2006 11:15:23 7,921 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    I'm sure that in the short term, the Wii will be a success. But in the long term, I'm not so sure - after all, the GC was a success at launch and then slumped rather spectacularly.

    Also, the Wii seems like a bit too much of a gimmick to work on a home console.

    K

    That's probably the biggest load of bollocks, what's that even supposed to mean? That it isn't exactly like everything else?
    I'm stunned at the inability of the human mind to accept the new and consider diversity sometimes.
  • Kay 27 Jul 2006 11:16:29 21,321 posts
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    Wow. I say one small thing and everyone jumps on my back. You trying to say I'm some sort of Nintendo hater, now? :)

    K

    Edited by Kay at 11:16:55 27-07-2006
  • Deleted user 27 July 2006 11:18:51
    SirScratchalot wrote:
    I'm stunned at the inability of the human mind to accept the new and consider diversity sometimes.

    Welcome to the Playstation Generation.
  • Kay 27 Jul 2006 11:19:53 21,321 posts
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    So I'm a Sony fanboi now. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

    K
  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 11:20:09 48,222 posts
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    ecosse_011172 wrote:
    Of course, the old "gimmick" line.
    please explain how it's a gimmick.
    You do realise it supports a new "classic" controller and the cube controllers?
    But if the wand doesn't take off big-time, the Wii hardware can't really compete with the 360 or PS3 at 'normal' games. Yes, the original controllers will work... but if you just want to play traditional games then one of the others is surely a more enticing buy?

    Don't be too mean to Kay. Not everyone is sold on the whole wand thing, myself included. It's an interesting idea, and I can see why some people are excited, but to me it's a non-starter. To many other people it will be just the same. The question is... how many other people?
  • Kay 27 Jul 2006 11:25:42 21,321 posts
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    ecosse_011172 wrote:
    Kay wrote:
    Wow. I say one small thing and everyone jumps on my back. You trying to say I'm some sort of Nintendo hater, now? :)

    K

    Edited by Kay at 11:16:55 27-07-2006

    Didn't mean to jump, sorry.. :-)

    Seriously, why people are still going on about it being a "gimmick" is beyond me.....

    I suppose Rumble packs and analogue controllers were gimmicks too..?

    It's because it's a completely different way of playing. I'm not saying it won't be enjoyed, I was just wondering whether it would ultimately just be a novelty that quickly wore off. After all, most people (me included) would prefer to play the best games using a traditional control method. Although the Wii idea looks nice and fun, it's not the control method I would prefer for the latest epic Zelda or Metroid.

    I like different things, but not when it comes at the expense of true gameplay. Now I may be completely wrong, and the Wii may turn out to revolutionise the way we play home console games, and that all future console releases will use that method. But I just find it hard to imagine people doing so after playing and getting used to traditional controllers for the last 25 years.

    K
  • Deleted user 27 July 2006 11:30:22
    I'm willing to bet that of the games that use the new controller more will be shit than will be good.

    I'd like that to be the other way round obviously but that's how I feel.
  • Genji 27 Jul 2006 11:31:02 19,682 posts
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    Hey... where's albundy?

    WHAT DID YOU PEOPLE DO TO HIM?
  • SirScratchalot 27 Jul 2006 11:38:23 7,921 posts
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    boabg wrote:
    I'm willing to bet that of the games that use the new controller more will be shit than will be good.

    I'd like that to be the other way round obviously but that's how I feel.

    Well, yeah but that's how everybody has felt about everything new, always. Doctrors once fought very hard not to have to wash their hands after autopsies you know. People inherantly feel sceptisism for the new.

    Kay wrote:
    Wow. I say one small thing and everyone jumps on my back. You trying to say I'm some sort of Nintendo hater, now? :)

    K

    Edited by Kay at 11:16:55 27-07-2006

    Nah it's just that it's politician speak...
    Like a golden nugget I saw on the telly yesterday from one of our homegrown politicians: "The important thing is we take the necessary measures!". You see, he didn't actually say anything about what those measures would be.
    The same thing is when saying that it's a "gimmick" you're not really expressing anything other than your own sceptisism, there really isn't any substance in there.
    Same with the novelty thing, it really says nothing at all.

    Edited by SirScratchalot at 11:39:31 27-07-2006
  • SirScratchalot 27 Jul 2006 11:39:38 7,921 posts
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  • Deleted user 27 July 2006 11:41:42
    SirScratchalot wrote:
    Well, yeah but that's how everybody has felt about everything new, always. Doctrors once fought very hard not to have to wash their hands after autopsies you know. People inherantly feel sceptisism for the new.

    I just think that loads of games will tack some kind of section/mini game that uses the controller to something more traditional al la the DS stylus in more than a few of it's games.

    No need for the sarkyness.
  • SirScratchalot 27 Jul 2006 11:41:55 7,921 posts
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    frod wrote:
    SirScratchalot wrote:
    Nah it's just that it's politician speak...
    Like a golden nugget I saw on the telly yesterday from one of our homegrown politicians: "The important thing is we take the necessary measures!". You see, he didn't actually say anything about what those measures would be.

    The same thing is when saying that it's a "gimmick" you're not really expressing anything other than your own sceptisism, there really isn't any substance in there.
    Same with the novelty thing, it really says nothing at all.
    What? It's not the same at all.

    I would argue that it is....
  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2006 11:42:58 48,222 posts
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    SirScratchalot wrote:
    The same thing is when saying that it's a "gimmick" you're not really expressing anything other than your own sceptisism, there really isn't any substance in there.
    Same with the novelty thing, it really says nothing at all.
    I disagree that he's saying "nothing at all". The fact that some people have already dismissed the controller without even trying it is an important point.

    It might be the most fun thing in the entire universe, but if you're not already sold on the idea then getting people to even try it is an uphill struggle.

    For every person on an internet forum frothing about how it's the next big thing, there is guaranteed to be at least one other person who thinks it's the most stupid idea they ever did hear.

    The doubter's opinion holds just as much value as the convert's.
  • SirScratchalot 27 Jul 2006 11:44:59 7,921 posts
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    In a marketing discussion that does make sense, and in the context of this thread such opinion is valid. I do wish there would be something saying why they think it's a gimmick.
    Other then "Waving your arm about I dunno". As said, I would wish for a little more substance in argumentation.
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