Teeth wrote:What albundy's around, every thread is about Microsoft. |
Should Nintendo stop making hardware and develop for the other systems? • Page 2
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Genji 19,682 posts
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Registered 17 years agoOr, when the thread is about Microsoft, it's about Nintendo. -
Teeth 7,987 posts
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Registered 18 years agoSee - you could have posted that on the first place and that could have been your only post and yet you'd have made exactly the same point in about 900% fewer words.
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albundy wrote:
Nah, the spectrum et al built the foundations, Sega and Nintendo built the house and now Sony and Microsoft have come in changing rooms-style and replaced it all with mdf and stenciled wallpaper.
I've said my piece anyway, so you may carry on. I just felt that Fish's assertion that left to their own, Microsoft and Sony would destroy the industry, was plain wrong. If you ask me, it was Sony and the PlayStation that has BUILT the industry upon which we stand. Nintendo laid the foundations, sure. But Sony built the house. And now, Microsoft are trying to build the estate around the house.
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Sid-Nice 15,848 posts
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I hope you weren't being sarcastic and were trying to dis his grace.
albundy wrote:
We are eternally grateful, your grace.
I've said my piece anyway, so you may carry on. -
Cappy 14,394 posts
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Registered 16 years agoalbundy wrote:
Blaaaaah... blah... .
*snip* Thats enough of that.
To borrow an appropriate quote. "You know. You are in more dire need of a blow job than any white man in history." -
Genji 19,682 posts
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Registered 17 years agoMaybe he's a woman on constant PMS!
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albundy wrote:
Only with people who think that mdf is a fitting repacement for fine mahogany hand carved furniture and that stenciled wallpaper is "a really cool idea".
Yes, but Microsoft and Sony's newly wall-papered has proven a lot more popular at their parties than at the parties of all the other houses before.
Furbs wrote:
I knew I could get him to stay!
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disussedgenius wrote:
Yes, but Microsoft and Sony's newly wall-papered house has proven a lot more popular at their parties than at the parties of all the other houses before.
albundy wrote:
Nah, the spectrum et al built the foundations, Sega and Nintendo built the house and now Sony and Microsoft have come in changing rooms-style and replaced it all with mdf and stenciled wallpaper.
I've said my piece anyway, so you may carry on. I just felt that Fish's assertion that left to their own, Microsoft and Sony would destroy the industry, was plain wrong. If you ask me, it was Sony and the PlayStation that has BUILT the industry upon which we stand. Nintendo laid the foundations, sure. But Sony built the house. And now, Microsoft are trying to build the estate around the house.
Edited by albundy at 12:36:25 30-07-2006
But it's dead boring. About as bad as Thatcher's high-rise flats. -
albundy wrote:
Your opinion. The vast majority of gamers out there clealry disagree with you.
disussedgenius wrote:
You see that smilie, that means I was actually joking.
Nah, the spectrum et al built the foundations, Sega and Nintendo built the house and now Sony and Microsoft have come in changing rooms-style and replaced it all with mdf and stenciled wallpaper.
Also: what do I care what the majority of gamers think? The majority of movie goers seem to think that Adam Sandler makes great films.
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Mr_Brown 1,032 posts
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Registered 17 years agoIf Nintendo started developing for other consoles and stopped making gaming devices I think eventually I'd stop playing games and it would be a disaster for the gaming industry. Nintendo are the only one taking the different path in gaming, if thats for the good or not is yet to be seen but gaming would become more and more bland without Nintendo. Specially with Sony and Microsoft cloning each other and going for realistic graphics and HD visuals etc etc, I'm not saying thats all bad...but if thats all we had to choose from gaming would just stop being fun IMO. I hope it never happens. -
Genji 19,682 posts
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Registered 17 years agoalbundy wrote:
So, what you're saying is that popularity has no direct relation to quality?
But they also went to see The Lord of the Rings in their droves, didn't they?
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gerg 880 posts
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Registered 17 years agoMeh. Lord of the Rings was overated. In my mind all its really done is take up three places in the "top 100 films" list for the next 50 or so years. Which is boring.
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albundy wrote:
*slaps forehead*
Quality is subjective my friend. But by most accounts (including mine) the Lord of the Rings films were simply awesome.
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Freek 7,682 posts
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Registered 18 years agoNintendo don't need to stop. The consistantly make a proffit even on thier hardware sales. They don't sell their consoles at a loss.
Doing just fine.
Hardware sales. NGC sold merely a million short of the Xbox, and the DS is taking of like a nuclear hurricane.
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Genji 19,682 posts
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Lord of the Rings was crap. Worst set of films in the last century.
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Genji wrote:
BTW
Lord of the Rings was crap. Worst set of films in the last century.
IT'S ONLY MY OPINION RIGHT GUYS
even though they were released this century?!?
But damn you and your IMO disclaimers, I was ready to have it out
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gerg 880 posts
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Genji wrote:
BTW
Lord of the Rings was crap. Worst set of films in the last century.
IT'S ONLY MY OPINION RIGHT GUYS
even though they were released this century?!?
But damn you and your IMO disclaimers, I was ready to have it out
I'm confused. Was that another way to point out albundy's argument flaws or not? -
Sid-Nice 15,848 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI thought that the recent incarnations of FIFA and Need For Speed on the 360 were good games. I also thought that PES 5 on the Xbox was a shit port from the PS2. I hope Konami don't just port the PS2 version of PES 6 to the 360; I want a whole new game with decent on-line play. Is that too much to ask? Or will I have to wait until the generation next? -
Genji 19,682 posts
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But this "opinion" nonsense always bugs me. Of course it's only your opinion.
Opinions aren't exempt from being wrong, though :-D -
albundy wrote:
gerg wrote:
I hate the way that anything popular always get hated on by those that 'know better'. Halo, Nintendo. Yep. "Teh casuals" like it so it MUST be crap...
Meh. Lord of the Rings was overated. In my mind all its really done is take up three places in the "top 100 films" list for the next 50 or so years. Which is boring.
But shouldn't we get back on topic now?
Fixed. -
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gerg wrote:
Consider it a mixture of being pedantic and trying to play Sonic Rush while posting, makes it hard to concentrate!
I'm confused. Was that another way to point out albundy's argument flaws or not? -
albundy wrote:
Racist kettle!
Whilst also forgetting to point out the poor sales of poor games like Miami Vice. Or the great sales of great games like Half-Life 2. For you see, you can prove anything you want if you just adopt a singular viewpoint, and try to hammer it home as being the ONLY viewpoint. -
gerg 880 posts
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gerg wrote:
I hate the way that anything popular always get hated on by those that 'know better'. Halo, Xbox/PlayStation/Lord of the Rings. Yep. "Teh casuals" like it so it MUST be crap...
Meh. Lord of the Rings was overated. In my mind all its really done is take up three places in the "top 100 films" list for the next 50 or so years. Which is boring.
But shouldn't we get back on topic now?
The films were of good quality, I'm sure, and I enjoyed watching them. But they were not so good that whenever they are mentioned they are acted as though they're the bloody messiah! There have been much more important and interesting films out in the history of cinema, which is why I wish everyone will get over them. -
Freek 7,682 posts
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frod wrote:
Whilst also forgetting to point out the poor sales of poor games like Miami Vice. Or the great sales of great games like Half-Life 2. For you see, you can prove anything you want if you just adopt a singular viewpoint, and try to hammer it home as being the ONLY viewpoint.
albundy wrote:
I know it might have been tough to work out as it wasn't written in the by numbers style of a John Grisham novel, but I was just pointing out the flaw in sales arguments.
frod wrote:
Hell no. They're shit. But Pro Evo is pretty special. As is Forza Motorsport. Both sold exceptionally well.
The vast majority of "gamers" buy what the adverts tell them to. Or are you going to tell us that FIFA and Need For Speed Underground are the best games ever?
Tell me, do you always just pick the worst examples in each genre, and them hold them up as being the best non-Nintendo games on offer? I'm dying to know.....
That is why sales are so meaningless when talking about what makes a good game. It is not a consitant measure of quality. Some times good games sell well, some times bad ones do and vice versa. It doesn't mean anything. -
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Registered 17 years agoalbundy wrote:
There is no self-pwn because all my anti-Nintendo arguments are opinions. But it is a FACT that many rubbish games don't sell, and many good games DO sell. And Frod's holding up of Fifa and need for Speed was fraudulent, at best, as he was clearly trying to 'prove' his own agenda, whilst ignoring the totallity of the argument.
God. It's like teaching a baby algebra.
Yes, many good games sell well, and that many good ones don't. Also, it is true that many bad games sell well and that many bad ones deservadly don't. We agree on all on this. However, what this shows is that there is no correlation between sales and the quality of the game, and thus you cannot determine the quality of a game through its sales.
Your so-called "selfpwn" derives from the fact that you eventually said yourself that good games can sell as well or as badly as bad games. -
Can someone please photoshop a KKK hat onto a pot please? I think it sums up albundy nicely! -
Sid-Nice 15,848 posts
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Not even that. Halo was originally a Mac exclusive game, think it would have been as succesfull there?
What makes a game succesfull is a whole range of factors, from quality, style, consumer prefrence, marketing exposure, platform accesability.
Different developers and publishers have different aproaches to what they find more important and try to push more to get sales succes.
Edited by Freek at 13:32:00 30-07-2006
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