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gerg 30 Jul 2006 13:41:46 880 posts
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albundy wrote:

gerg wrote:

albundy wrote:
There is no self-pwn because all my anti-Nintendo arguments are opinions. But it is a FACT that many rubbish games don't sell, and many good games DO sell. And Frod's holding up of Fifa and need for Speed was fraudulent, at best, as he was clearly trying to 'prove' his own agenda, whilst ignoring the totallity of the argument.

God. It's like teaching a baby algebra.

Yes, many good games sell well, and that many good ones don't. Also, it is true that many bad games sell well and that many bad ones deservadly don't. We agree on all on this. However, what this shows is that there is no correlation between sales and the quality of the game, and thus you cannot determine the quality of a game through its sales.

Your so-called "selfpwn" derives from the fact that you eventually said yourself that good games can sell as well or as badly as bad games.
Please look at the post above yours where I said as much. Of course sales don't prove quality. But they prove what consumers prefer.

By the time I had finished writing, your post was already posted.

Sid-Nice 30 Jul 2006 13:42:56 15,848 posts
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1 Console developed by Microsoft is the only way forward for gaming. Nintendo and Sony have no idea about on-line gaming; so they should leave the on-line stuff to the experts.

gerg 30 Jul 2006 13:53:13 880 posts
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Sid Nice wrote:
1 Console developed by Microsoft is the only way forward for gaming. Nintendo and Sony have no idea about on-line gaming; so they should leave the on-line stuff to the experts.

Which is why when Nintendo launched the Wi-Fi Connection service with Mario Kart, 45% of all purchasers of the game used the online service in the first week of US sales compared to only 18% of Halo 2 purchasers playing its online mode during the first three weeks of its sales?

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Furbs wrote:
Have you tried playing Halo 2 at a McDonalds hotspot? It sucks, the glare from the windows is a bitch.

Special sauce on controller ftul

gerg 30 Jul 2006 13:57:40 880 posts
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disussedgenius wrote:
ftul

And "ftul" means what exactly?

Teeth 30 Jul 2006 13:58:27 7,987 posts
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"is really bad"

Fubdub 30 Jul 2006 15:43:26 270 posts
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Sid Nice wrote:
1 Console developed by Microsoft is the only way forward for gaming. Nintendo and Sony have no idea about on-line gaming; so they should leave the on-line stuff to the experts.

Online game can go fuck a rotting rooster for all I care. I hope I'm not the only one who will continue to see singleplayer and local (not online) multiplayer as the most interesting aspect of gaming. I really don't think it's the holy grail some people make it out to be.

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gerg wrote:

disussedgenius wrote:
ftul

And "ftul" means what exactly?

"For The Ultimate Loss"

Should really be 4tul, mind.

cyber_nicco 30 Jul 2006 18:05:43 464 posts
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My god, a lot of people sure did misunderstand my question. I have to admit, I've only read in about 40 or so posts, but I had to say something right away.

First of all, I am not suggesting Nintendo SHOULD stop making their consoles, and I was never even considering that they would give up handhelds (as they always do quite well there). I was only just toying with the idea that they'd make more money, and reach more gamers, by opening up their lovely franchises to all gamers.

This, of course, would probably require that they stop making living room consoles (not handhelds - more on that later). I do believe Nintendo is not in the same boat as MS and Sony as far as losing money on hardware, but cost to produce numbers don't take into account the costs to develop a new hardware platform.

For a long time now, I've been hearing from Nintendo and their camp of loyal supporters, that it's all about the games. This is usually said when it is pointed out that the Gamecube and Wii are markedly less "powerful" than competing consoles. Well, if it's all about the software, then why not focus on making the software? I admit, the Wiimote muddles up the equation a bit, because it changes the interface to the games so much. However, in my mind, the jury is still out on whether or not the Wiimote will prove to be a good thing in the long run.

On to handhelds. I think if they made their franchises available to hordes of new gamers on other consoles, but kept them exclusive to their handhelds, it might effectively squash any competition in that market (although they don't need a lot of help), giving them an even tighter control on the market that makes them the most money (I believe).

Finally. I like Nintendo. I have a N64 (Which I still play from time to time, but goddamn that controller). I chose it over the PS1 because I like Nintendo (I used to love my SNES). That being said, I liked the Nintendo products because I liked the games - not that I was so in love with the hardware (which was fine, too).

Hope that clears a few things up...

DaveT 30 Jul 2006 18:34:53 309 posts
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bigbadbeasty 1 Aug 2006 12:16:09 126 posts
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@cyber_nicco

I would truly be sad if Nintendo stopped making its own hardware too. It may make more money making games for other consoles, but who can tell?

Nintendo are financially very successful. When Sega stopped making hardware they were in a bad way. The Dreamcast was an awesome console, and still looks good today, but it didn't achieve well enough.

I would also like to add, Nintendo on the the whole makes excellent
hardware, that is very reliable.

So far I have had to send my 360 back twice, dump a PS2, and sell a PSP. I have been very disapointed with them.