An interesting Wiimote fighting control-scheme? Page 2

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  • T.G. 5 Aug 2006 18:05:42 5,989 posts
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  • Deleted user 5 August 2006 18:14:48
    T.G. wrote:
    Furbs wrote: Where did that exclamation mark come from?
    Same place the apostrophe came from. Ever heard of punctuation? ;P

    If the exclamation mark is there, the period after the quotes does not need to be there. Ever heard of grammar?
  • T.G. 5 Aug 2006 18:21:49 5,989 posts
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    Furbs wrote: Where did that exclamation mark come from?
    T.G. wrote: Same place the apostrophe came from. Ever heard of punctuation? ;P
    Gremmi wrote: If the exclamation mark is there, the period after the quotes does not need to be there. Ever heard of grammar?
    It doesn't need to not be there though. If you have a question mark or an exclamation mark inside the quote, the full stop is still desirable. And yes, I have heard of grammar. But I won't be drawn further on the subject, SilentBob already taught me that lesson 3 months ago...
  • BartonFink 5 Aug 2006 18:22:45 35,268 posts
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    T.G. wrote:
    T.G. wrote: Barton, Metroid Prime was 'shoe-horned' into a 3D FP game. And it was fuckin' sound. I think that the use of phrases like 'shoe-horning' which have negative connotations, is not conducive to the argument. So fuckin' stop your poncey nancy-talk, and get your hurley out ya basturd. D:< /Battle-readiness
    BartonFink wrote: Right ye bast.
    /left nut
    /right nut
    /smack to the head

    Do that with yer fookin' nunchuck!!! Ye fucker yer head broke me hurley.
    /Butts Barton in the nuts (a time-honoured Carlow tradition)
    /Stamps on thorax when he's down (a greeting ritual amongst Carlow knackers)
    /Tenderises vigorously with special G.A.A. compliant adamantium hurley

    Good thing for you I'm a man of peace. :-|
    /Awaits the arrival of nun-chuks with a hurl-like piece of wood.
    I'd like to see them shoehornin that .... /runs
  • T.G. 5 Aug 2006 18:36:59 5,989 posts
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    @Furbs: Fair enough. I won't quote you in future. Sorry for any offence caused, it was unintentional.
  • Deleted user 5 August 2006 18:48:35
    T.G. wrote:
    It doesn't need to not be there though. If you have a question mark or an exclamation mark inside the quote, the full stop is still desirable.

    You might

    want to double check

    on what you know about grammar.

    Just a hint, mind.
  • MrWorf 5 Aug 2006 18:59:31 64,193 posts
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    The proof is in the pudding imo. I reserve jugdement till I try out this fighting control scheme, if true.

    Edit: :D

    Edited by Razz at 19:01:31 05-08-2006
  • Deleted user 5 August 2006 19:00:42
    Razz wrote:
    The poof is in the pudding imo.

    Then get him out of it! I'm trying to eat.
  • T.G. 5 Aug 2006 19:06:36 5,989 posts
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    @Gremmi: Noted.
  • ProfessorLesser 5 Aug 2006 19:09:02 19,693 posts
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    T.G. wrote:
    @Gremmi: Noted.
    I demand the forum software be edited to include proper quotation marks and punctuation in quotes:

    "T.G. wrote: '@Gremmi: Noted.'"
  • Deleted user 5 August 2006 19:11:26
    I demand a tasty sandwich.
  • MrWorf 5 Aug 2006 19:13:11 64,193 posts
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    /puts dick between two slices of bread
  • ProfessorLesser 5 Aug 2006 19:26:08 19,693 posts
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    You don't need to say anything negative for that, just do like Razz does and Gremmi will sort you out for free.
  • T.G. 5 Aug 2006 19:35:22 5,989 posts
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    MoonShine wrote: I'm afraid to say anything negative, T.G. will bite my head off.
    /Bites Moonshine's head off
  • DrDamn 7 Aug 2006 16:50:54 1,216 posts
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    gerg wrote:
    Gremmi wrote:
    Like disussedgenius said, it'd be like patting your head whilst rubbing your stomach.

    Perhaps, but some people can do that naturally and very easily.

    Though not many people. I thought the Wii controller was meant to make games more inclusive?

    This control sounds like what someone too close to the game would come up with. Balletic in the right hands, but most of us would look like fools.

    Some interesting general points this highlights though. It's not just the controls which put some people off games, but the complexity of the controls. A number of fighting games have complex controls - the d-df-f button press at the right time type. Putting this on a flick of the wrist instead of a flick of the thumb is not reducing the complexity, simply reproducing it with the wii controller. What happens on the screen has to have a greater link with what you do with the controller surely?

    Left and right for Fight Night sounds much better though. It is the direction "total punch control" was going in anyway, as they were trying to link the natural movement of the arms to the sticks of the controller.
  • jellyhead 7 Aug 2006 17:02:40 24,356 posts
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    I love the way people are saying "It'll make me look like a fool. It'll be crap"! pffft.
    Have none of you played Samba De Amigo?!
    You look like a total twonk playing it yet you're having so much fun you couldn't care less, really. As for it being hard, pfffft 10 minutes after picking it up you'll suss what's required. Yes it may not work but by the same token it may work fantastically!

    / plays Samba
    / Waves arms like sticks trying to fly in a storm
    Sweet. :)
  • DrDamn 7 Aug 2006 17:24:16 1,216 posts
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    jellyhead wrote:
    I love the way people are saying "It'll make me look like a fool. It'll be crap"! pffft.

    I was going to edit just after posting to "look and play like a fool". I don't have a problem with looking like a fool - it comes naturally ;-). Playing like one because of the control method is a problem though.

    I play Fight Night every week with friends. The best boxer is the guy who gets so into it he needs a three seater sofa to himself. You can tell which boxer he is and what his boxer is doing by looking just at the player - not the screen. The Wii controller will work great for him I reckon. This is a game where the control lends itself to the controller though - and I'm not talking about the genre but the game itself. As a game series it's already evolved into a game which can be controlled with just the two sticks. MK isn't there yet, and the implication that d-df-f type controls are cut'n'pasted to flicks of the Wii controller sounds so wrong.

    I'm not saying it wouldn't work if you put some time in, it's just why should you put the time in when it is a control mechanism designed for a regular controller? Again, if you have to put the time in haven't you have already lost the non-gamer?

    Companies have to change control schemes to fit the controller, not just fit existing control schemes to the controller to get the best out of it. That raises all sorts of issues with big cross platform releases.

    On a positive note I think we have to go through a significant amount of games which don't get it right in order to get some real classics out the other side. I feel like MK as described will be like one of those games we have to go through though.
  • Carrybagma 7 Aug 2006 17:50:24 3,904 posts
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    Pah.

    I better whoever uses a trad. controller will win every time, thus condemning Wiimote functions to gimmick status.

    :o(
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  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    I think that'll be down to there not being a decent MK game in about 10 years.

    The Wii isnt going to magically make crap good.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Hey if you like mediocrity then great, but I think some people need to remember the phrase "you cant polish a turd".
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Where did that exclamation mark come from?
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,740 posts
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    Regardless T.G, just out of pure manners, if you're going to quote me I'd prefer it if you left things as are. Thanks.

    I left school 14 years ago.

    Edited by Furbs at 18:28:35 05-08-2006
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