So, any chance the Wii will run Cube games in progressive mode?

  • SirScratchalot 15 Aug 2006 11:54:25 7,921 posts
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    My greatest fear about the Wii has been resolved by the XBox, I recently bought component for the ole Xbox and set it up as a fully fledged Media center. And played some games on it. They looked friggin excellent even after upscaling by the TV, which does by all reports have one of the best upscalers so results may vary. Anyway Xbox games before have looked horrid spread over 40 inches while they now look just as good to me as anything from the 360. Picture quality wise that is.

    Still, for my cube, which does have digital output, I would have to import the component cable for 50eur, chip it, and then import the games IŽd like to play in 480p. So with the Wii around the corner anyone think it'll take care of the problems for us. Anyone heard anything?
    Any devs with the tech specs? Anything?
    I do so want to play an actual good looking game of mario kart on the new TV.
  • SirScratchalot 15 Aug 2006 12:02:19 7,921 posts
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    I kinda wanna play the one's I have though. Including the illustrious RE4.
  • Ignatius_Cheese Moderator 15 Aug 2006 12:02:37 11,104 posts
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    Not too sure but I didn't think any PAL Cube games came out in progressive scan... There were a few NTSC titles that were designed to run in progressive scan (most prominent one being Metroid Prime) so can imagine that they will run no problem on Wii.

    It would however be nice if those titles which didn't support it at the time could be upscaled by the hardware. Not holding out a lot of hope though...
  • Dr.Haggard 15 Aug 2006 12:31:09 4,641 posts
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  • Dr.Haggard 15 Aug 2006 12:37:01 4,641 posts
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    SirScratchalot wrote:
    My greatest fear about the Wii has been resolved by the XBox, I recently bought component for the ole Xbox and set it up as a fully fledged Media center. And played some games on it. They looked friggin excellent even after upscaling by the TV, which does by all reports have one of the best upscalers so results may vary. Anyway Xbox games before have looked horrid spread over 40 inches while they now look just as good to me as anything from the 360. Picture quality wise that is.
    So are you just talking about improved PQ using a component cable, sans prog scan, or have you soft modded to enable 480p?

    The XBox is the only console I'm still really unhappy with in terms of picture quality on my LCD, and I'm just wondering if using component will improve it noticeably or if I'm really going to have to bite the bullet and mod it to get prog scan.
  • Deleted user 15 August 2006 12:45:09
    You should get it for the PS2 and buy that PS2 HD thing Mappy linked to :)
  • megastar 15 Aug 2006 12:46:29 17,238 posts
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    well if the wii doesn't run cube games in a "progressive mode" then you wouldnt be able to complete the games would you?

    Edited by megastar at 12:46:25 15-08-2006
  • evad_lhorg 15 Aug 2006 14:40:13 86 posts
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    the better question is whether or not the freeloader will work on the wii.
  • Blerk Moderator 15 Aug 2006 14:46:32 48,222 posts
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    evad_lhorg wrote:
    the better question is whether or not the freeloader will work on the wii.
    There is no question. Of course it won't.
  • Ignatius_Cheese Moderator 15 Aug 2006 14:55:37 11,104 posts
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    However, within 6 months of Wii being available, there will be an alternative tool opening up multiregion playback of Cube titles. Mark my words. No doubt Datel is already hard at work concocting such a device... :o)
  • DodgyPast 15 Aug 2006 15:45:55 9,353 posts
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    Hyoushi wrote:
    Ignatius_Cheese wrote:
    blahblahblah Datel blahblah hard at work
    haha
    Actually what is it with Nintendo consoles.... only one I didn't mess about with importing was the N64... the others have been pretty easy.

    I even still have a US version of Secret of Mana and SF II at home for the snes.
  • Blerk Moderator 15 Aug 2006 15:47:37 48,222 posts
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    Nintendo don't spend a small fortune creating hack-proof protection systems, as they've usually relied on 'non-standard media' to prevent people copying their games.

    Whether that will change with the Wii using standard-sized discs is another thing altogether.
  • JohnnyWashnGo 15 Aug 2006 15:57:41 1,544 posts
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    I heard rumours that a Cube with a Qoob Pro installed would force progressive scan mode on all games, even PAL games.

    Can anyone confirm this?
  • brim4brim 15 Aug 2006 15:59:21 169 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Nintendo don't spend a small fortune creating hack-proof protection systems, as they've usually relied on 'non-standard media' to prevent people copying their games.

    Whether that will change with the Wii using standard-sized discs is another thing altogether.

    I'd say copied games won't play online at least initially but the whole import scene will be up and running fairly fast.

    Anyway they've already said that it will probably be region free because the DS is and it has worked out well for it with US users importing Japanese games.



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    On the progressive scan issue. Why wouldn't it do it. Cube games output in 480i on Wii or PAL equivalent and the progressive scan version is just outputting all the lines on one pass instead of half on one pass, half on next pass. It shouldn't need anything but some coding on the console and right output on the console. The game doesn't really need to support progressive scan.

    I think the reason you need a US cube is that the Europe one can't do progressive scan and the reason you need the US game is because the US console outputs an NTSC signal and not a PAL one which is 60hz V 50hz which stops some TV's playing it and the games are region encoded so US games won't work on EU consoles.

    Anyway I don't much about it because I just use European games and never bothered modding my GC so I could be wrong.

    Edited by brim4brim at 16:03:40 15-08-2006
  • Blerk Moderator 15 Aug 2006 16:00:42 48,222 posts
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    brim4brim wrote:
    Anyway they've already said that it will probably be region free because the DS is and it has worked out well for it with US users importing Japanese games.
    Actually they didn't. They mumbled something about online probably being region free and avoided the actual question about region locking on games.

    I wouldn't hold your breath on Wii games being multi-region.
  • SirScratchalot 15 Aug 2006 17:10:46 7,921 posts
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    Dr.Haggard wrote:
    SirScratchalot wrote:
    My greatest fear about the Wii has been resolved by the XBox, I recently bought component for the ole Xbox and set it up as a fully fledged Media center. And played some games on it. They looked friggin excellent even after upscaling by the TV, which does by all reports have one of the best upscalers so results may vary. Anyway Xbox games before have looked horrid spread over 40 inches while they now look just as good to me as anything from the 360. Picture quality wise that is.
    So are you just talking about improved PQ using a component cable, sans prog scan, or have you soft modded to enable 480p?

    The XBox is the only console I'm still really unhappy with in terms of picture quality on my LCD, and I'm just wondering if using component will improve it noticeably or if I'm really going to have to bite the bullet and mod it to get prog scan.

    Dunno, as soon as I set it to prog as soon as I got the cables. It looks fantastic though so I suspect 480p really makes a difference. Tell you what though, I'll check it out for you once get home.
  • SirScratchalot 15 Aug 2006 17:12:36 7,921 posts
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    Hyoushi wrote:
    SirScratchalot wrote:
    I kinda wanna play the one's I have though. Including the illustrious RE4.
    is it a pal copy? then it won't output progscan. you said it yourself in the first post, didn't you?

    lol

    Actually what I'm hoping is that the cube can run some Voodo and output from pal copies in 480p. Not sure what would be required but since Halo2 runs in 720p on the 360 I refuse to give up hope.
  • bigbadbeasty 16 Aug 2006 13:04:04 126 posts
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    There is no chance of the Wii being region free, Nintendo are really funny about all that.

    Sigh....
  • brim4brim 17 Aug 2006 00:47:25 169 posts
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    Hyoushi wrote:
    SirScratchalot wrote:
    Actually what I'm hoping is that the cube can run some Voodo and output from pal copies in 480p. Not sure what would be required but since Halo2 runs in 720p on the 360 I refuse to give up hope.
    but the X360 has the hardware to upscale in realtime.

    360 doesn't upscale. Ms had the foresight to put HD textures on the disc and it wasn't any extra effort as they needed the HD stuff for the Pc version anyway.
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