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StarchildHypocrethes 33,974 posts
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mwtb 2,381 posts
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Registered 17 years agosenso-ji wrote:
Griffin threw out some half hearted punches when he should have shot and taken Silva down, and held him there for as long as possible so he could have regained his composure.
I understand what you're saying but let's say Griffin managed to somehow to take Silva down. Now he's weakened and on the ground with BJJ black-belt Anderson Silva... hmm... I'm not seeing a lot of upside.
I would have thought that the sensible thing to do would be to start pedalling as Silva doesn't like to chase. That's not Griffin's game though. -
No injury to Forrest today, I guess he just wanted to run like his namesake.
I agree with the sentiments above about it being not the best UFC could offer. Fuck off with the WWF comments, it's a perfectly reasonable opinion to have.
Griffin would never take Silva down by choice, he wanted to stand up and throw which is his forte (but also Spider's). I don't know why Forrest took the fight, he had nothing to gain. -
StarchildHypocrethes 33,974 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI'm getting a bit fed up with the seemingly large increase in the number of jujitsu fighters entering UFC. Whilst I can fully appreciate how technical their discipline is and how gifted they are, it still doesn't make their fights very entertaining to watch. -
Erm, it's always been chocker full of BJJ......back to the Gracies and UFC 1. It genuinely is (currently) the best ground discipline for UFC rules. -
StarchildHypocrethes 33,974 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI haven't been watching it for too long, to be honest. A friend introduced me to it sometime a couple of years ago. However, there just seems to be a lot more JJ vs JJ matchups recently, than I remember there being when I first tuned in.
I completely understand that it's the best ground game there is, but it's still quite dull to watch. -
There's quite a bit of strategy involved, if you get into the sport in a big way you'll probably start to like the ground matches a bit more.
But everyone likes to see someone getting banjo'd. -
StarchildHypocrethes 33,974 posts
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Registered 17 years agoIt's certainly damned impressive when you see a guy at the bottom for ages, regualrly being hit in the face, yet retaining the concentration to bend his legs in some ridiculous fashion and suddenly have the guy on top in an arm lock or something. -
blue_room 97 posts
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Registered 15 years agogood jits can be interesting .. the first two fights in 101 were just ... dull.
even the main event mostly consisted of florian laying against bj against the fence, trying and failing for about the millionth time to take bj down.
Two lay n prays, and early stoppage, and two mis-matches for the main events. 101 not good. -
mwtb 2,381 posts
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Registered 17 years agoYep, Brazilian Jui-Jitsu is boring. .gif)
More seriously, while a stand-up war is always fun, I actually like to see more technical fights particularly at the lower weights. I've seen one or two really amazing and fast-paced fights where nobody threw a strike. I can never understand why people even watch MMA if they feel the need to start booing as soon as there's a clinch or it goes to the ground. -
Venkman90 4,430 posts
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Registered 17 years agomwtb wrote:
Yep, Brazilian Jui-Jitsu is boring.
More seriously, while a stand-up war is always fun, I actually like to see more technical fights particularly at the lower weights. I've seen one or two really amazing and fast-paced fights where nobody threw a strike. I can never understand why people even watch MMA if they feel the need to start booing as soon as there's a clinch or it goes to the ground.
The TUF 9 Final with Wilkes v Demarques was awesome, Wilkes but on a BJJ clinic, great transitions, attempts for heel hooks, omiplata, leg compression, traingle then that awesome RNC -
Onny 5,695 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI think the ground game can be a lot more difficult to understand than standup. When I first watched the UFC I hated all the groundwork, but once I started training in BJJ I found it extremely interesting.
One of the biggest differences in Japanese crowds and western crowds is that the Japanese will cheer just as much for a nice sweep as for a nice counter punch. Western crowds are coming around to it, but I still see too much boo'ing when the fight goes to the ground. :/ -
Gruff 3,940 posts
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Registered 18 years agoPES_Fanboy wrote:
I agree with the sentiments above about it being not the best UFC could offer. Fuck off with the WWF comments, it's a perfectly reasonable opinion to have.
Eh? Don't diss me for expressing MY opinion about ignorant people booing whenever a prolonged bout of groundwork takes place, then wax lyrical about groundwork in the UFC. -
Telepathic.Geometry 12,422 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI felt pretty sorry for the first fight guy (or was it the second) where, whenever he was taken down he was working his arse off to catch the guy in a leg-lock or some other crafty shit, and the guy on top more or less did nothing, and did fuck all damage and ended up gassing out. He won by decision, but I think he really didn't deserve it.
A good referee would've stood them up after a minute or so when the guy on top failed to transition to anything and failed to do any significant damage of any kind.
A good judge would have docked him points for failing to take advantage of the upper position.
I get that the guy on the bottom has to do something too, but he fucking was. He was working hard to trap the guy, and interrupt his progression. The ref' shoulda stood them up IMO. -
StarchildHypocrethes 33,974 posts
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Registered 17 years agoYeah, I felt the same about a couple of those fights. They could do with maybe having a look at the judging criteria. The guy on the bottom did far more in two of the fights and came away with a unanimous loss both times, basically because he had a guy lying on top of him. -
Telepathic.Geometry 12,422 posts
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Registered 15 years agoAmen brother. The guy on top's gotta get points for being able to put the guy there and keep him there, but the guy on the bottom has to get points for taking no damage in that situation, and preventing the upper guy from advancing his position.
What's more, if the guy on the bottom is being more aggressive than the guy on the top, and going for triangles and whatnot, he should be scoring more points overall. -
Slurmseh 2,848 posts
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Registered 14 years agoStarchildHypocrethes wrote:
I'm getting a bit fed up with the seemingly large increase in the number of jujitsu fighters entering UFC. Whilst I can fully appreciate how technical their discipline is and how gifted they are, it still doesn't make their fights very entertaining to watch.
I'm the opposite, I love stand up brawls but a brilliantly executed Jits fight is a beauty to behold. Any fight with Maia is always a good one! -
senso-ji 10,271 posts
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Registered 13 years agoApparently, one of the reason BJJ specialist fighters are getting 'boring' is because the fighters take less risks when on the ground; I know a guy who's an mma instructor, and he went to a seminar by Kenny Florian's brother, who's a specialist BJJ trainer.
He told my friend that now the strategy for BJJ is just to hold the dominant poistion for as long as possible, and not try to go for a submission or even break guard as that risks you getting submitted. So now alot of coaches advise their fighters to just 'neutralise'your opponent on the ground, so you walk away with a points victory. That might not go down well with the spectators, but because the money and prestige associated with being a UFC fighter has grown, fighters are less inclined to take risks and lose. -
Gegard Mousasi marmalised Renato Sobral at the Strikeforce event last night and Gina Carano v Cyborg was also a good'un -
Slurmseh 2,848 posts
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Registered 14 years agoBut...but...this is a UFC thread. If Dana found out we were discussing Strikeforce...
Also, Gina ain't so pretty anymore! -
Onny 5,695 posts
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Registered 16 years agoHoly shit! And also Mark Dacascos! Surely they must fight some kind of deathmatch in the final! 
Suppose this means Chuck really has retired then. -
Slurmseh wrote:
But...but...this is a UFC thread. If Dana found out we were discussing Strikeforce...
Also, Gina ain't so pretty anymore!
What? She is extremely fit, Cyborg looks like a dude. I'm disappointed Gina gassed out after about 3 minutes, the fight just made women's MMA look like a joke. Cyborg left herself open for punches but Gina just couldn't capitalise on it. -
Onny 5,695 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe "takedowns" were horrible too. :/ -
Scurrminator 9,045 posts
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Registered 16 years agodoes anyone know when the next UFC event is in the UK?
I know someone who can get tickets and just want to make sure im prepped in advance! -
Venkman90 4,430 posts
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Registered 17 years agoScurrminator wrote:
does anyone know when the next UFC event is in the UK?
I know someone who can get tickets and just want to make sure im prepped in advance!
November, MEN Arena, UFC 105
So far Bisping, Dan Hardy and Terry Etim are a given (Paul Daley is fighting at 103)
Bisping was rumoured to be fighting Wand or Cote but both are out till 2010, I reckon Belcher or Akiyama.
Hardy may be given a name, since he made the top 10 rankings over Hughes... -
Scurrminator 9,045 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBrilliant, cheers dude.
I'll get onto him for tickets! -
Slurmseh 2,848 posts
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Registered 14 years agofunkyd wrote:
She was fit, dunno bout her after Cyborg mashed her face up with her fists.
Slurmseh wrote:
But...but...this is a UFC thread. If Dana found out we were discussing Strikeforce...
Also, Gina ain't so pretty anymore!
What? She is extremely fit, Cyborg looks like a dude. I'm disappointed Gina gassed out after about 3 minutes, the fight just made women's MMA look like a joke. Cyborg left herself open for punches but Gina just couldn't capitalise on it. -
Onny 5,695 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI was just reading through this article posted on sherdog and although most of it is pretty depressing reading a quote right at the end by the UFC's guy in the UK caught my eye:
Next year we plan to be more aggressive in our promotion; we are looking to put on three to five shows in the U.K. Any arena that can hold in the region of 9,000 throughout the country, we are looking to fill.
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Onny wrote:
I was just reading through this article posted on sherdog and although most of it is pretty depressing reading a quote right at the end by the UFC's guy in the UK caught my eye:
Next year we plan to be more aggressive in our promotion; we are looking to put on three to five shows in the U.K. Any arena that can hold in the region of 9,000 throughout the country, we are looking to fill.
\o/
EG UFCmeet anyone?
As an aside, 13 of the Fastest MMA Knockouts Ever
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