Amazon Kindle Page 7

  • FairgroundTown 29 Aug 2010 12:27:30 2,522 posts
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    The original version, you had to pay a 'transfer fee' for anything and everything. It now says 'a million free books' so it would appear that they have ditched that - there is no asterisk, as there usually us when free doesn't mean free.
  • crispyduckman 29 Aug 2010 13:03:08 1,903 posts
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    Yep. IMO, the easiest way to transfer non-Amazon books is to email them to your Kindle (although Amazon has a few free out of copyright books too). The process can accept doc, txt and pdf files and some others. If you have a 3G device, you have two email addresses - one for free wifi downloads and one for 3G paid for downloads. It won't accept epub or lit but utilities are available on the net to do that.

    There is USB transfer too.

    One thing I don't know yet is how to change book/author names once they're on the device (it adopts the filename in the first instance). Anyone?

    edit: btw, the kindle is bloody amazing. by far the best ebook reader. for anyone into books it makes way more sense than the iPad.
  • Deleted user 29 August 2010 13:03:54
    Wait, so you can't just drag and drop?
  • Deleted user 29 August 2010 13:09:47
    crispyduckman wrote:
    Yep. IMO, the easiest way to transfer non-Amazon books is to email them to your Kindle (although Amazon has a few free out of copyright books too). The process can accept doc, txt and pdf files and some others. If you have a 3G device, you have two email addresses - one for free wifi downloads and one for 3G paid for downloads. It won't accept epub or lit but utilities are available on the net to do that.

    There is USB transfer too.

    One thing I don't know yet is how to change book/author names once they're on the device (it adopts the filename in the first instance). Anyone?

    edit: btw, the kindle is bloody amazing. by far the best ebook reader. for anyone into books it makes way more sense than the iPad.

    Thanks for the info.
  • crispyduckman 29 Aug 2010 13:11:16 1,903 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    Wait, so you can't just drag and drop?
    You can drag and drop via usb but i find it easier to email.

    there is a caveat. pdf files can be read with or without conversion to kindle format. usb transfers won't convert them so you have to view the pdf as you do through a pdf reader, rather than as an ebook if that makes any sense.
  • Deleted user 29 August 2010 13:15:21
    crispyduckman wrote:
    mowgli wrote:
    Wait, so you can't just drag and drop?
    You can drag and drop via usb but i find it easier to email.

    there is a caveat. pdf files can be read with or without conversion to kindle format. usb transfers won't convert them so you have to view the pdf as you do through a pdf reader, rather than as an ebook if that makes any sense.

    Aye. Same on the iPhone.
  • Deleted user 29 August 2010 13:19:45
    Currently in a 3 week queue though. ffs. Ah well, will put it off until next payday.
  • StixxUK 29 Aug 2010 13:33:44 8,755 posts
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    Oops, just ordered one.
  • FooAtari 29 Aug 2010 15:23:18 3,955 posts
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    Think there will be a reasonably priced colour Kindle appearing soon? Thats the one thing stopping me buy the kindle just now. I think as soon as I buy one a colour model will appear a few months later.
  • PrivateFloyd 29 Aug 2010 19:06:58 5,464 posts
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    I want one. Anyone know whether Amazon charge on order or dispatch?
  • DUFFMAN5 29 Aug 2010 19:14:41 26,890 posts
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    PrivateFloyd wrote:
    I want one. Anyone know whether Amazon charge on order or dispatch?

    Dispatch. I'm waiting for one at the mo.
  • 1Dgaf 29 Aug 2010 23:24:59 5,211 posts
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    I ordered my 3G on 1st August at about 4:30am. I found out today that people who ordered after me, up to the 3rd and 4th of August, were getting their 3G Kindles shipped before mine.

    Turns out Amazon's upgrading people to faster shipping (for free) was a bit of a fuck up - Amazon's system somehow didn't recognise that some people already had fast shipping, like me as a Prime customer, and so the people who got upgraded moved further up the despatch list.
  • mal 29 Aug 2010 23:50:40 29,326 posts
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    FooAtari wrote:
    Think there will be a reasonably priced colour Kindle appearing soon? Thats the one thing stopping me buy the kindle just now. I think as soon as I buy one a colour model will appear a few months later.
    Doubt it. There were rumours a year or so back of some Japanese (probably) lab working on colour e-ink, but I've not heard anything of it since. It's probably been knocked on the head by the fact people seem to be happy reading books on LCD screens they can hold in their hands now. Even if it does get prototyped and announced soon it'll be too expensive for a Kindle type device for a while.
  • PrivateFloyd 30 Aug 2010 09:12:20 5,464 posts
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    DUFFMAN5 wrote:
    PrivateFloyd wrote:
    I want one. Anyone know whether Amazon charge on order or dispatch?

    Dispatch. I'm waiting for one at the mo.

    Cheers fella.
  • mrpon 30 Aug 2010 09:13:30 37,366 posts
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    So, tell me about the browser. I'm certainly intrigued about free Internet for life. I'm guessing it's like WAP?
  • PrivateFloyd 30 Aug 2010 16:44:39 5,464 posts
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    Well, i am well and truly on the fence.

    Wanted an ipad for a long time, have an iphone4 though and it does everything i want it too apart from a being a good reading platform, which i hoped the ipad might be (a chuffin' expensive one at that!!)

    . The kindle seems a much more sensible choice for me. Cheaper and much more appropriate as a proper reader.

    /wants
  • crispyduckman 30 Aug 2010 20:53:28 1,903 posts
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    mrpon wrote:
    So, tell me about the browser. I'm certainly intrigued about free Internet for life. I'm guessing it's like WAP?
    It might be a fairly decent browser but it's impossible to really tell as the eink display (and any other current eink display) is utterly balls for web browsing. Eink works brilliantly for page turns and can cope with pop up menus, but scrolling is horrible. I mean really F-ing horrible.

    I can't stress enough how bad it is for this type of thing. IMO, it renders the web browser pointless. If I have no other choices, I will always choose my Nokia dumb-phone over it.

    IMO, the iPad and Kindle are not remotely similar devices. The Kindle rules as an ebook reader. It's light-weight, book text looks absolutely fantastic and the battery life is mind blowing. Those are the most important things in a book reader and the iPad doesn't touch the Kindle in those areas. Occasionally, I'll spend a whole day reading a book or two and I can't imagine doing that on the iPad. On the other hand, the iPad is great for illustrated pdf text books (e.g. medical anatomy text books), light web browsing, short emails and iPhone/iPad apps. As someone with a 11.6" ultra portable laptop, I don't really think I have a use for an iPad (although I think the iPad may work better than my laptop for reading music score).
  • Deleted user 30 August 2010 21:09:17
    I want one too. Next payday.
  • PrivateFloyd 30 Aug 2010 22:16:27 5,464 posts
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    fuck it. just ordered the 3G one.
  • mrpon 30 Aug 2010 23:33:21 37,366 posts
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    :D good work sir!
  • gammonbanter 31 Aug 2010 00:24:48 2,282 posts
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    Am I a fool for only wanting the normal non 3G one? Just want to read books man!

    How does EG look on it? (I know someone else aked this).
  • crispyduckman 31 Aug 2010 13:10:55 1,903 posts
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    gammonbanter wrote:
    Am I a fool for only wanting the normal non 3G one? Just want to read books man!

    How does EG look on it? (I know someone else aked this).
    Not at all. I have the 3G + WiFi version but the 3G is only useful for periodicals imo. So, for example, downloading the Times or whatever while travelling. Assuming you keep it loaded with unread books, it's unlikely that you'll need the 3G for any other reason (publishing to FB/Twitter is not on my radar at all). That's not to say they won't introduce some cool new 3G feature but, for now, I'm generally recommending the non-3G version to other people.

    Seriously though, forget about viewing websites through this thing. Eink really sucks for browsing. Heck, why else would Amazon let you do it for free? I have a Nokia 6700 Classic, which is a bloody basic phone, and browsing is better on that.
  • Deleted user 31 August 2010 13:14:15
    are you on the new or old kindle, crispyduckman?
  • crispyduckman 31 Aug 2010 13:29:46 1,903 posts
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    New. The old one is 3G only I believe.

    I should probably mention that my Nokia 6700 does have a pretty nice speedy webkit html browser but the screen is obviously tiny. My point is that the vast majority of modern phones will beat the Kindle for browsing. And who doesn't have a mobile phone on them most of the time?
  • JohnnyWashnGo 31 Aug 2010 13:31:16 1,544 posts
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    I may have mentioned it before but its worth saying again - the new Kindle is ace !

    I had a bit of a crash the other day which required a hard reset but since then, everything is cool.

    Also, if you have an Android device with version 2.2 of the OS then you can get away with just the wifi version and having your phone act as a router ;) Thats what I am doing and it works fine.
  • mrpon 31 Aug 2010 13:39:28 37,366 posts
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    Browsing on the 3.0, clueless woman though.
  • crispyduckman 31 Aug 2010 17:10:10 1,903 posts
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    JohnnyWashnGo wrote:
    I may have mentioned it before but its worth saying again - the new Kindle is ace !

    I had a bit of a crash the other day which required a hard reset but since then, everything is cool.

    Also, if you have an Android device with version 2.2 of the OS then you can get away with just the wifi version and having your phone act as a router ;) Thats what I am doing and it works fine.
    I had to rest mine once after plonking around with the experimental features. I still had my books but my places were lost. I can't really understand why it can keep your books but not your place. Is that the same as your experience?
  • JohnnyWashnGo 31 Aug 2010 19:37:05 1,544 posts
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    crispyduckman wrote:I still had my books but my places were lost. I can't really understand why it can keep your books but not your place. Is that the same as your experience?

    Nah... My situation unfolded like so:

    Tried to open a large-ish book.
    Device froze.
    Put it to sleep.
    Wouldn't wake up :(
    Hard reset it.
    Turned it on.
    Everything was cool.

    I re-sync'd it with my account and everything was back to the way it was before the crash. I could continue reading from where I left off.

    Also, anybody tried alt+shift+m for minesweeper or alt+shift+g for Go?
    They rock ;)
  • FooAtari 31 Aug 2010 22:39:03 3,955 posts
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    mal wrote:
    FooAtari wrote:
    Think there will be a reasonably priced colour Kindle appearing soon? Thats the one thing stopping me buy the kindle just now. I think as soon as I buy one a colour model will appear a few months later.
    Doubt it. There were rumours a year or so back of some Japanese (probably) lab working on colour e-ink, but I've not heard anything of it since. It's probably been knocked on the head by the fact people seem to be happy reading books on LCD screens they can hold in their hands now. Even if it does get prototyped and announced soon it'll be too expensive for a Kindle type device for a while.

    Makes sense,


    kindle books on Amazon appear pretty expensive for what they are though. Right now I'm on the fence...

    Edit
    OK So seems prices vary a lot. But as an example I can buy the paper back versions of the Pratchett books I looked like for around same price as digital version.
  • Deleted user 31 August 2010 22:51:53
    Can I play fighting fantasy books on a kindle?
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