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The fishing is (as with so many Japanese games) one of the most fleshed out things you can do! XD Stronger line, better rods and reels, some crazy fish and fishing spots, brilliantly designed lures, some of the actual hardest “bosses”. Well worth doing, but I do like fishing mini games. |
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ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Rodderz 4,497 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYeah it was/is surprisingly good, especially with all the tackle available and that was only the first fishing spot! I'm looking forward to seeing what's out there as I've just finished Chapter 2, so it seems I'm now in the open world proper for Chapter 3.
Prompto has just mentioned visiting Chocobos so I'm guessing that might be the ranch Roguey mentioned on the previous page. I'll be heading there next, much to Prompto's delight
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ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoOn one hand, they really should have made that a story critical quest so you don’t miss it. On the other hand, I don’t know anyone who could put up with Prompto past that point if they didn’t do it. -
Rodderz 4,497 posts
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Registered 15 years agoReally starting to enjoy this now and getting the hang of the combat, particularly the cross chain attacks which had me confused for a while. I also got an MP3 player for Noctis from one of the rest stop shops, so I can now listen to the former FF soundtracks (and a Nier Gestalt track 😊 ) I've collected so far whilst on foot. Wandering round listening to the relaxing sounds of Balamb Garden from FFVIII (my first FF) was a really nostalgic experience.
I followed Roguey's advice on the other page regarding levelling, so I'm using the Nixperience band when resting at most places in order to specifically level up at Galdin Quay hotel for the 2x XP boost. My first time doing that took me from lvl.14 to lvl.28 in one go, so UUUuuuge gains. I currently have just over 60k XP saved up waiting to be doubled up at some point, though I'm still only on Chapter 3 and not feeling too challenged, so will wait until I feel I need the extra boost. The only impossible enemy so far was a hunt against lvl.41 Necromancers (I think that's what they are), they keep petrifying me and wrecking my team, so I hightail it out of there on my Chocobo!
I did an awesome hunt last night where I had to kill some of those crocodile type enemies. When they were dispatched my next hunt was in the exact same spot, this time some ice bombs. When they were taken care of the game suddenly decided to spawn a massive lvl.58 giant cobra type creature right next to me, which shit me up a bit! I decided to have a crack at fighting it, the epic boss type music letting me know this was no ordinary monster. It took all my health items and a mega-phoenix potion, but I killed the scaly twat! That's the most exhilarating and satisfying fight so far.
I have to say, the world they've crafted in this is genuinely beautiful. I didn't quite realise how large the openworld was, nor how varied it is. Driving up into the hills, driving over a large bridge and finding a fishing spot along a wide river that flows underneath the bridge was just lovely. I even met the friendly fisherman guy there which was a welcoming addition.
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Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@Rodderz I'm guessing the hunt you mentioned is the Mindflayers one. It's particularly nasty. They've got masses of health and a whole range of nasty moves (some of which are instant-kill). Even at level 50 or so, that hunt isn't trivial. My advice for that fight would be to keep your distance, use the cover provided by the pillars around their spawn point and lob in as much high-damage magic as you can.
Some of the big demons it spawns on you are indeed entertaining..gif)
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ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoRodderz wrote:
Yep! These guys, and to some extent coeurls, are the only troublesome enemies in the game if you try to fight them on a roughly level-for-level basis. You'll eventually find a recipe that gives you protection from their one-shot death that makes it (obviously) a lot less of a hassle! Otherwise it's extremely dependent on reading animation cues, but that hunt specifically is a mess in that regard because you're huddled inside that area with them spawning skeletons too etc.
The only impossible enemy so far was a hunt against lvl.41 Necromancers (I think that's what they are), they keep petrifying me and wrecking my team, so I hightail it out of there on my Chocobo!
When they were taken care of the game suddenly decided to spawn a massive lvl.58 giant cobra type creature right next to me, which shit me up a bit! I decided to have a crack at fighting it, the epic boss type music letting me know this was no ordinary monster. It took all my health items and a mega-phoenix potion, but I killed the scaly twat! That's the most exhilarating and satisfying fight so far.
This is both one of the strengths and weaknesses of the game imo - it's nicely designed to facilitate level 1 runs etc because you can actually kill mobs like Midgardsormr when you run into them, but it's also rather brokenly "balanced" around healing item spam. Fights against individual large enemies are generally the best in the game though.
I have to say, the world they've crafted in this is genuinely beautiful. I didn't quite realise how large the openworld was, nor how varied it is. Driving up into the hills, driving over a large bridge and finding a fishing spot along a wide river that flows underneath the bridge was just lovely. I even met the friendly fisherman guy there which was a welcoming addition.
It's a ridiculously good looking game. The size of the world is a *little* deceptive via the use of the tunnels and bridges and stuff, but exploring it for the first time is stunning. -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoRogueywon wrote:
It's the Necromancers inside the small stone circle near Costlemark.
@Rodderz I'm guessing the hunt you mentioned is the Mindflayers one. -
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Registered 16 years ago@ilmaestro Ah yes, that is indeed the guys I was thinking of. Nasty fight. My previous advice about going to town with your biggest spells on them very much stands. -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMy advice might even be just do it after you have a certain very powerful weapon from near the end of the game. XD -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@ilmaestro I picked up the Ultima Blade in chapter 3, which has served Noctis pretty well for everything the game has thrown at him so far. -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoRushing Ultima Blade or abusing Ragnarok is a good way to power through some stuff, for sure. Between those, Sword of the Wise, and Swords of the Wanderer, the game definitely gives you access to some of the best weapons very early on. -
Rodderz 4,497 posts
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Registered 15 years agoilmaestro wrote:
Yep I think that's the one. I already did the Mindflayers hunt, which seemed to be a homage to Demon's Souls friendly Tower of Latria residents, unless they've been a feature of FF before? I can't remember!
Rogueywon wrote:
It's the Necromancers inside the small stone circle near Costlemark.
@Rodderz I'm guessing the hunt you mentioned is the Mindflayers one.
As mentioned above by you guys the fight is particularly difficult because there's three Necromancers, they're all summoning skellies as adds, throwing around petrifying spells and insta-deathing and all this in a tight area with low visibility as its specifically a night hunt only! Very nasty. Won't be going back there until I've levelled a good bit more at the least.
What's this about an Ultima blade... in Chapter 3... Hmmm though I'd be worried about trivialising the game if I'm too overpowered too soon. I think...?
Ignis's Overwhelm technique is a bit good too, that's saved my bacon a few times when finishing off something tough, the giant cobra I mentioned above included! -
Scimarad 9,965 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMind Flayers are from D&D, like a lot of FF creatures. They do tend to turn up in quite a few games, though!
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ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoRodderz wrote:
Hehehehe.
What's this about an Ultima blade... in Chapter 3... Hmmm -
Rodderz 4,497 posts
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Registered 15 years agoScimarad wrote:
Ah, cheers for the info Scimarad!
Mind Flayers are from D&D, like a lot of FF creatures. They do tend to turn up in quite a few games, though!
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Rodderz wrote:
Hehehehe.
What's this about an Ultima blade... in Chapter 3... Hmmm well now I'm definitely going to have to investigate this further! -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@Rodderz On the Ultima Blade...
It's fairly easy to get. It's the end-point of the "A Better Engine Blade" quest-line from Cid, that you get right at the start of the game. The original Engine Blade is the not-very-good sword Noctis starts the game equipped with. The first upgrade quest requires a Rusted Bit - a fairly common collectable. You will almost certainly have picked up one of these during chapter 2. The second requires a Glass Gemstone - also a fairly common collectable - which it is easy to get from sidequests/exploration during chapter 3.
The third quest is a bit trickier. It requires a Sturdy Helixhorn, which is a fairly rare drop from monsters. Fortunately, there's an easy way to farm it. Go to Old Lestallum Outpost and pick up the hunt "The Last Spiracorns". Don't worry if you've done it already - it's repeatable. The hunt should be fairly easy at your level. Go to the quest marker for the hunt and save before starting the fight. To get the Sturdy Helixhorn, you're going to need to focus on breaking the horns of the Duplicorns before killing them, which might take a bit of practice (and even that isn't 100% guaranteed to give the drop). If you fail, just load your game and do the fight again.
Once you've got the Sturdy Helixhorn, take it back to Cid and he'll upgrade the Engine Blade to its final form - the Ultima Blade.
How game breakingly good is it? It's a one-handed sword (so Noctis-only) with very high damage. In fact, it has the highest damage of any one-handed sword you can obtain before the post-game. It also boosts your magic stat and mp a bit and absorbs magic energy from an enemy when used to land the finishing blow. It is good enough that until the late chapters of the game, you will probably be able to skip the whole rock-paper-scissors damage type system, as even when doing purple damage (i.e. getting part-resisted) it will still be outdamaging other weapons. Once you get into the linear section towards the end of the game, you will find other weapons which narrow the gap with it and mean that you need to return to a more balanced playstyle. So it's massively more powerful than anything you have access to at this stage of the game. It is not, however, a total game-breaker. I would still expect that Necromancers fight, for instance, to be challenging if you're using it. -
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Registered 14 years agoGlol’d at scaly twat.
Yeah love the world in this game. It’s got a great aesthetic. That certain FF je ne sais quoi. -
Psiloc 6,368 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@Psiloc Aye, I'm on my second playthrough and I still choose to drive rather than fast-travel more often than not. Only tend to use fast-travel when I'm not planning on going anywhere with a fuel pump for a while (as fast-travel uses no fuel). -
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Registered 18 years agoPsiloc wrote:
Yep, the incentives for levelling either your Chocobo by riding it, or Gladdy's Survival skill by going on foot, are a very cohesive bit of design.
You know it’s doing something right when you occasionally choose not to fast travel just ‘cause.
In fact I'd say I never fast travelled just to get around to an objective, only when I was going back and forth between hunt locations when I had a few stacked up, for example. -
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Registered 15 years ago@Rogueywon
Well, well... So the Ultima blade was never further than my own inventory (sort of)...! No wonder ilmaestro was having a chuckle
Thanks again for such a detailed write up, I'll get on that I think. I will have to do the third sword upgrade first though as I haven't yet found a Glass gemstone for Cid yet.
Psiloc wrote:
I love getting Ignis to do the driving so I can just concentrate on flinging the camera around and admiring the views (and occasionally beep the horn). It definitely nails the 'friends on a road trip' vibe it's going for.
You know it’s doing something right when you occasionally choose not to fast travel just ‘cause. -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoRodderz wrote:
xD I didn't know whether to fully "spoil" it or not haha.
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Rodderz 4,497 posts
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Registered 15 years agoSo I finally found a Glass gemstone last night and Cid upgraded my sword to Engine Blade 3, so I'd laid the groundwork for the upgrade to Ultima blade. I then decided to have a quick look in my inventory on the off-chance I hadn't already obtained the necessary items and hey presto, I had not one but two Sturdy Helixhorns sitting in my inventory!? I can't remember precisely where I got those but I do remember fighting some Spiracorn enemies somewhere on the map, so they must have dropped during that fight.
The poor old Engine Blade 3 never saw any use as it was immediately given back to Cid for the final upgrade! I just have to wait until he calls to hand it back. Happy days -
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Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@Rodderz Grats. It's a very decent weapon indeed. I think they've upped the drop rate on the Sturdy Helixhorn since console release, as I also had one ready by the time I got to that point in the quest during my PC replay.
I'm currently grinding the arena credits needed for the Magitek Engine (which removes the fuel requirement for the Regalia). At 2.7M/3.6M at the moment - bloody hate this thing. If you're going to add a really repetitive and grindy side-activity, try not make it one which highlights how poor your monster AI and hit detection is. -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI loved it haha, may have something to do with a) my love of gambling and b) my love of learning which monster AI is the *worst*.
edit: forreal though, why are you grinding for that? Just to "do it"?
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Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@ilmaestro More or less, yes. That, and the petrol gauge pisses me off in some weird way. -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoBut... but... refueling in Hammerhead... -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years agoLeft the Arena tonight with 3.1M/3.6M. Pretty pissed off with both myself and the game. I started at around 9PM tonight with 1.8M. I got an absolutely perfect arena line-up that allowed me to get 1.1M credits over around 50 minutes. I then made the mistake of leaving to save, because I was paranoid about a crash. After that, I struggled to get a nice, predictable arena line-up again and it took me longer to make the next 400k than it took me to make the preceding 1.1M.
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Should anybody be wondering how to do the arena shit (it does also give some useful items, in addition to the stuff for the Regalia):
- Every time you travel to the arena, it will pick a line-up of teams a random, who will then show up in the cycle until you leave and re-enter the arena.
- Some line-ups are better than others. This is gambling, but unlike real gambling, the deck is theoretically stacked in your favour (hint: in real gambling the house always wins and if you do it as anything other than an occasional bit of fun, you will end up homeless and giving handjobs for crack). A good line-up has monster teams that perform predictably.
- You will see lots of reddit posts saying "always pick the team with more monsters in it, particularly if they are fast moving". This is bollocks. Maybe there's been a patch that changed the balance. Maybe people on reddit were talking shit(!!!!!). By and large, unless you get a 2-teams-only lineup, you should never pick a team whose monsters can get 1-hit-killed by one of the other teams. If they can be 1-hit-killed, they will be 1-hit-killed.
- In a 2-teams-only line-up (and these have the best odds), the bigger team does tend to perform better.
- The odds always under-value the condition stat. If you see a team with long odds but higher condition than any other team, they may be worth betting on, subject to the points below.
- The Coeurl always wins. Seriously. It has shit odds, but always bet on it. It always wins.
- Unless there's a Toad. The Toad occasionally beats the Coeurl.
- The only decent horn is the HP-restore horn you start with. The others are expensive and pointless. Fuck 'em. The HP-restore horn is good. Using it properly will push you towards teams whose monsters have higher health.
- Monster types which tend to outperform the odds: Unicorns, Crocodiles, Bulettes.
- Monster types which tend to underperform the odds: Dogs, Chickens, Giraffes.
- The Cactuar is a bit of a wildcard. Sometimes it gets taken down in seconds. If it doesn't get taken down in seconds, it usually wins. By and large, best to bet on the Cactuar if it shows up for a fight.
Edited by Rogueywon at 23:20:41 17-04-2018
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