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Deleted user 21 April 2014 19:44:41

CharlieStCloud wrote:
@Ultrasoundwave

... a full days pay for 5-10 minutes work is indeed 'unique'

At 24 fucking pound an hour!

No offence Soundwave but you don't know you're born.

chopsen 21 Apr 2014 19:48:23 21,958 posts
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@BTBAM

Oh absolutely, I can see that. There is no way in hell you'd get me in front a classroom of kids. I can just about manage a small group of undergraduates who actually at some point nominated to be there. It is very emotionally draining dealing with people of any kind on a daily basis. At least in most office jobs you can in someway switch off in some way.

But I rarely see anyone complain about this aspect of the job. It is always how long their hours are, or how the holidays aren't actually that great. I'd have a lot of respect for someone who said "this job is hard because kids are little shits" rather than "ooh, I've got to mark some spelling sat in front of Eastenders*" Just kind of strkes me as disengenuous and I think a lot of people who complain about the work just basically don't like the job for what it is.

If the benefits and rewards of the job don't outweight the stresses and you don't basically like it, think about a change in job.

(*yeah I know you're supposed to be without distration and whatnot. Nobody beleives you do).

Edited by Chopsen at 19:48:56 21-04-2014

beastmaster 21 Apr 2014 19:53:12 22,373 posts
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One of my best mates got a degree in biology. He's worked as an account and in HR for a national newspaper. He now works as a primary school teacher and loves it.

Finds it really fulfilling and 'easy'. By that I mean he's had to go to court for legal cases against the newspaper and have to fire loads of people. Anything to do with teaching he just finds a doddle.

But it takes a lot of dedication and determination to switch careers. Hats off to those that do.

/takes off hat

Deleted user 21 April 2014 20:33:33

I think a lot of the stress in teaching is probably the political bullshit - ofsted prep, etc.

But then, I used to work jobs where I got audited and assessed, with the spectre of being fired / struck off if not found satisfactory. Maybe it's because teaching is normally so relatively stress free at other times it is just a big shock for them.

Metalfish 21 Apr 2014 20:46:18 9,191 posts
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PazJohnMitch wrote:
Complaining about the hours as a teacher is like winning the Lottery and complaining you only won Ł20m and not Ł25m.

Hahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaahahahaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahah... ...hah.

Metalfish 21 Apr 2014 20:48:58 9,191 posts
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PES_Fanboy wrote:
Maybe it's because teaching is normally so relatively stress free at other times it is just a big shock for them.

See above.

nickthegun 21 Apr 2014 21:01:56 87,712 posts
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I think the major problem is that out of the entire employment sector, nobody whines about their jobs like a fucking teacher, which eventually tends to polarise opinions.

I have a disproportionally high number of teaching friends and family and, as someone who seems to be made redundant every few years, having rock solid job security and 12 weeks holiday a year makes up for the poor little sausages having to mark a few books while they watch eastenders and then having to do two hours lesson planning a morning for the first week of the holidays.

TheMayorOfJugs 21 Apr 2014 21:17:42 6,489 posts
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Jesus what did I start :-o

In Ireland, teachers are paid for all the holidays they get when students are off, and that's 2 weeks at easter, 3 at xmas, 2 months of Summer, and midterms.

I've also seen documentaries on English schools, and no offense intended at all, but a lot of English kids seem to have no respect for teachers or the classroom environment.
Of course I'm not saying the same behavior and disruptions and horror stories don't occur here, but they're definitely much less common than England, and almost non existent at Primary level.

(Secondary teaching in England is something I'd never do, based on documentaries and testimony from my cousin :-o If any of you here do it, I absolutely salute you)

So ya, over here it's a softer job.

Edited by TheMayorOfJugs at 21:17:52 21-04-2014

senso-ji 21 Apr 2014 21:44:28 10,271 posts
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I know four people who went into teaching at Secondary schools; three of them quit inside two years, one of them is thriving after four and is a senior on a good wage. Although I admit it's not scientific, but based on my four friends I believe you need a certain type of character to teach. The one person enjoying it is an extrovert who doesn't take any shit of anyone, and she loves teaching and says she gets a great deal of accomplishment out of it.

I'm not saying you need to kick ass to teach (nobody knows how they will cope until they've stood in front of a class for the first time), but you do seem to be determined and well organised from what I've seen.

Not sure how this helps in the discussion; just an observation. Good luck to anyone going into teaching, I say.

nickthegun 21 Apr 2014 21:49:11 87,712 posts
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I could teach. I certainly havent got the aptitude. But then, I couldnt bear to be an accountant or a hairdresser, either but that doesnt necessarily make them jobs from hell.

Metalfish 21 Apr 2014 22:00:06 9,191 posts
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I think I might out myself as a bit of a lesbian by quoting this, but it seems pertinent:

Maybe you don't like your job
Maybe you didn't get enough sleep
Well, nobody likes their job
Nobody got enough sleep
Maybe you just had
The worst day of your life
But, you know, there's no escape
And there's no excuse
So just suck up and be nice

Ultrasoundwave 21 Apr 2014 22:52:51 6,440 posts
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@Dirtbox

My point, Dipshit, is that I choose to own a PS4, Xbox and Wii U instead of a gaming PC. So yeah, I've got those games pre-ordered and I'm looking forward to playing them.

Ultrasoundwave 21 Apr 2014 22:55:35 6,440 posts
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@TVoJ

I'm aware it's a good job and I'm lucky to have it, doesn't mean I still don't fancy a change tho.

skuzzbag 21 Apr 2014 23:00:38 5,950 posts
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Donk8077 wrote:
I'm 34 next month and I've been with my company since it practically started back in 2001. I was taken on as a CAD operator but I've spent more time on the shop floor operating various machines. I recently had a conversation with my md about my role where he said he thought I was happy working on production, I told him that I wasn't and he then said he that I should now be in a position where I'm passing my experience onto others and that he wants to get another guy to free me up so I can leave the shop floor and take a senior position in CAD. That was good hearing from him. But the trouble is he's dragging his feet in getting another guy in and I can't see him making good on his promises. Without blowing my own trumpet but if I wasn't on the shopfloor fuck all would get made because the other guys I work with are lazy bastards and I always have to sort out all of the problems. Most days it's like juggling two jobs because I have to draw the stuff and then get it run and then bloody make it. The pay isn't too bad and we do get two bonuses a year but what pisses me off is that I'm payed the same as a normal operator. But because I've been working there so long and I've been in the same industry since I was 16, it's really daunting to move on.

Sign up with an engineering agency and you shouldn't have much trouble getting a few interviews lined up.

I was about to leave my job to renovate a house, with the wife carrying on working. However the house we looked at was about 10 times bigger, and 10 times more falling down than we expected. So I shit myself and backed out.

Now my wife is leaving her job to go private and I have to carry on in IT

I was looking forward to doing a plastering course as well.

Dirtbox 21 Apr 2014 23:02:00 92,600 posts
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Deleted user 21 April 2014 23:24:51

@Ultrasoundwave

Furry Muff. Don't you have enough time though to maybe start up your own business or do a new qualification from home rather than night classes?

Another quick shoutout. Any cameramen around here to give me some pointers?

IJ 22 Apr 2014 03:44:00 1,028 posts
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Writing this from a hostel in Brazil having quit my job 8 weeks ago. I spent my 30th birthday opening presents in Machu Picchu in Peru two weeks ago!

I quit a phenomenally well paid job (trader at an investment bank where I'd worked for nearly 8 years, 6 figure bonus etc) because I didn't enjoy the job anymore. Now on gardening leave until mid-May and I intend to pursue a career I'm passionate about. I'll try and start my own business, make a few apps as I want to try etc. if these don't work out I want to pursue my passion for games into work and build a career mixing my business skills with my passion for the games industry.

Sobering knowing I probably peaked salary wise before I was 30. Certainly worried I threw away a career 99% of people would kill for. I know I'm lucky to have the finances to explore other careers, options others don't have. But it does show that money really doesn't give you job satisfaction, just gives you options in life. Hopefully I'll be posting back here in 5 years as a top exec at sony/Ubisoft/MS!

Dirtbox 22 Apr 2014 05:07:55 92,600 posts
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Dizzy 22 Apr 2014 07:56:08 3,716 posts
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I am thinking of starting a restaurant next year. From software guy to restaurant guy... hmmm crazy?

sport 22 Apr 2014 08:24:40 17,064 posts
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I'm thinking of starting an Internet Cafe.

Dizzy 22 Apr 2014 08:37:05 3,716 posts
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sport wrote:
I'm thinking of starting an Internet Cafe.

I think that craze is over no?

CosmicFuzz 22 Apr 2014 08:42:11 32,632 posts
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In my spare time I've been getting a into aerial photography with a friend. He's a proper photographer, knows his stuff etc, and does websites for various people across the UK. We bought a UAV recently and am currently going through the qualifications needed to do aerial work. Which is a bit of a pain in the arse to be honest.

It'll just be a fun side thing for the meantime, we figure if all we ever do is make our initial costs back we'll be happy (and have a free UAV to muck about with), but I'd love it to become a successful business and just spend my days flying a UAV over golf courses and the like.

sport 22 Apr 2014 08:42:57 17,064 posts
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Dizzy wrote:

sport wrote:
I'm thinking of starting an Internet Cafe.
I think that craze is over no?

But imagine you're out and about. You don't have the Internet, and suddenly you remember that you're expecting that email. You panic. Then, BOOM, there it is, right next to Poundland... Sport's Cyber Cafe.

TheMayorOfJugs 22 Apr 2014 08:45:22 6,489 posts
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sport wrote:
I'm thinking of starting an Internet Cafe.

Do it!

I have great memories of a place in my hometown, there were 11 computers hooked together for LAN parties, it had better internet than everywhere, it was fantastic. There was an account system where you paid for time, in advance or as you came and went, it was added to your account and you just logged in and did or played whatever you wanted. They had Oblivion and COD and Half life 2 and CS and Gary's mod and the guy who owned it was bang on. He'd have tournaments where you paid a fiver, got free food and drink, and all your playtime was free, and the winners got free time on their account.

He did so well that he moved into the city but then went bust because we didn't have transport to go and the train is stupid expensive :-(

SET UP A CAFE LIKE THIS SPORT.

CosmicFuzz 22 Apr 2014 08:48:44 32,632 posts
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I didn't know you were a fan of cybering sport!

Asl?

sport 22 Apr 2014 08:52:05 17,064 posts
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CosmicFuzz wrote:
I didn't know you were a fan of cybering sport!

Asl?

I will be planning some eharmony evenings.

sickpuppysoftware 22 Apr 2014 08:52:19 1,486 posts
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sport wrote:
I'm thinking of starting an Internet Cafe.

Was it that or a laserquest?

Dougs 22 Apr 2014 10:09:50 100,415 posts
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PES_Fanboy wrote:
I think a lot of the stress in teaching is probably the political bullshit - ofsted prep, etc.

In my experience of friends that are teachers, it's exactly that. They love the teaching, hate the politics of schools and the box ticking exercises that they have to do in order to meet whatever barmy scheme the Govt has come up with this week to "improve standards".

That said, it's not a job I would do. You couldn't pay me enough to put up with little herberts all day.

Load_2.0 22 Apr 2014 10:12:56 33,583 posts
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sport wrote:

CosmicFuzz wrote:
I didn't know you were a fan of cybering sport!

Asl?
I will be planning some eharmony evenings.

Get some waterproof blankets and you could open a new kind of porn cinema like they had in the 80's and 90's.

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