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We're all well aware of the origins of modern gaming, and how the word video game came about. But as games have become more and more mature and complex, do you feel that the words used to descibe what is effectivley a burgeoning new art form (potentially) are somewhat lacking. Videogaming, gaming, they make it sound trivial, childish even. Admitidley most games are very trivial and quite childish, but it surely wont be long before we start to see themes and stories developing with the depth and maturity of the best cinema has to offer. Some would argue that we already have. So my question is this. Do you think, either now, or at some point in the future, a new term or terms should be used to descibe gaming. Perhaps..(dont hit me) Interactive entertainment, or something similar. Just opening a discussion, interested to have your thoughts. aaand.. go |
"Gaming" Time for a new word ?
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TwistidChimp 8,825 posts
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At they end of the day they are still games, are they not? -
caligari 17,956 posts
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Registered 20 years agoWhat about...
'Virtual Reality' -
Fatfish 3,377 posts
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Registered 18 years agoTwistidChimp wrote:
We're all well aware of the origins of modern gaming, and how the word video game came about. But as games have become more and more mature and complex, do you feel that the words used to descibe what is effectivley a burgeoning new art form (potentially) are somewhat lacking. Videogaming, gaming, they make it sound trivial, childish even. Admitidley most games are very trivial and quite childish, but it surely wont be long before we start to see themes and stories developing with the depth and maturity of the best cinema has to offer. Some would argue that we already have. So my question is this. Do you think, either now, or at some point in the future, a new term or terms should be used to descibe gaming. Perhaps..(dont hit me) Interactive entertainment, or something similar.
Just opening a discussion, interested to have your thoughts.
aaand.. go
It's twunts like you that marketing bods love! I'm all grown up now and I don't play video games anymore - I play Interactive Entertainment.
Surely Interactive Entertainment could be anything from playing a musical instrument through to shagging a whore whilst on a stag-do in Amsterdam?
How about Televisual Interactive Technology System. No mum, I can't come down to dinner - I'm playing with my TITS.
Edited by Fatfish at 15:28:55 17-10-2006 -
TwistidChimp 8,825 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBlerk wrote:
At they end of the day they are still games, are they not?
Well its hard to say. Is any piece of interactive entertainment automatically a 'game' Its symantics really, but I'm just not sure if game is exactly the right word any more. It seems that its a hindrance to our hobby being taken seriously, due to the conetations of the word game. In 10 years if you were playing, just off the top of my head, some kind of work of interactive fiction like thats more like the Constant Gardener or something, wouldn't the word game, seem a bit.. off. I think half the time when the mainstream gets wind of a 'game' that broaches the subject of genocide, or murder, or any other serious, mature matter. That its somehow abhorent, because the word 'game' is inherently child like and frivolous.
I'm just thinking aloud here, so apologies if i'm rambling like a twat.
Edited by TwistidChimp at 15:33:21 17-10-2006
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TwistidChimp 8,825 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFatfish wrote:
TwistidChimp wrote:
We're all well aware of the origins of modern gaming, and how the word video game came about. But as games have become more and more mature and complex, do you feel that the words used to descibe what is effectivley a burgeoning new art form (potentially) are somewhat lacking. Videogaming, gaming, they make it sound trivial, childish even. Admitidley most games are very trivial and quite childish, but it surely wont be long before we start to see themes and stories developing with the depth and maturity of the best cinema has to offer. Some would argue that we already have. So my question is this. Do you think, either now, or at some point in the future, a new term or terms should be used to descibe gaming. Perhaps..(dont hit me) Interactive entertainment, or something similar.
Just opening a discussion, interested to have your thoughts.
aaand.. go
It's twunts like you that marketing bods love! I'm all grown up now and I don't play video games anymore - I play Interactive Entertainment.
Surely Interactive Entertainment could be anything from playing a musical instrument through to shagging a whore whilst on a stag-do in Amsterdam?
How about Televisual Interactive Technology System. No mum, I can't come down to dinner - I'm playing with my TITS.
Edited by Fatfish at 15:28:55 17-10-2006
lol, look I'm not saying it definatley needs to change, I just thought i'd open up the subject to debate.
And just to make it clear, i'm not thinking this change is needed now. I'm talking 10, 20, 30 years down the line when we're getting more towards holodeck style entertainment. (not full tactile vr etc obviously but that level of potential character interaction) (possiblly)
Edited by TwistidChimp at 15:35:41 17-10-2006 -
gamingdave 5,087 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI dont think chess, backgammon, poker, majong etc have ever suffered or been taking friveroulsy (sp?) because they are "games".
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ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoNo. -
Stormflood 2,262 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFootball and cricket are games, but that doesn't seem to bother anyone. -
TwistidChimp 8,825 posts
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Registered 16 years agofair enough, just thought i'd ask
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Fatfish 3,377 posts
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Registered 18 years agogamingdave wrote:
Besides, im not changing my name.
LOL!!
Laziness ftuw! I don't like change because it means I have to put in effort! -
"Barry Von Schnappflange's leisurely pursuit of variables connected to visual delights and responses of coordination and mental stimulation". -
jellyhead 24,356 posts
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Registered 18 years agoNo, no need to change the name only the perceptions of others.
"Virtual Reality" has already been soured by marketting and big business in the minds of most people i know back in the early 90's.
Won't be calling anything "Virtual Reality" for a while methinks, Jaron Lanier will certainly be avoiding the phrase. -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoStormflood wrote:
No, they're sports.
Football and cricket are games, but that doesn't seem to bother anyone. -
TwistidChimp 8,825 posts
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Registered 16 years agoGremmi wrote:
"Barry Von Schnappflange's leisurely pursuit of variables connected to visual delights and responses of coordination and mental stimulation".
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Fatfish 3,377 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI think the issue here is that no matter how immersive a game is, it will always be just a game. It will always be competition - whether it's you against a computer, you against a fellow human or just you against the game developer (i.e. solving their puzzles etc) - with the intention of reaching a goal (whther that be a high score, the most number of kills, fastest to the finish, unravels the mystery the developer has laid out for you etc.).
If anything, I agree that it should be classed along with movies and music as modern entertainment - which I think we generall sum up as Digital Media. Although that in itself is quite an accurate and grown up phrase, it's just not really very exciting and doesn't differentiate what type of Digital Media you're talking about.
Personally, I think it would be a bad move to rename video games - could all too easily allienate the casual gamers that have started picking up pads over the last 10 years. Leave it as it is. -
TwistidChimp 8,825 posts
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Registered 16 years agoilmaestro wrote:
Stormflood wrote:
No, they're sports.
Football and cricket are games, but that doesn't seem to bother anyone.
right thats my point, game sounds childish and frivolous where as Sport, or even the name of the sport itself has other conetations. Its just the word 'game' is inherently associated with stuff thats child like and frivolous, is my point. Games are to be played, it immediatley seems to rob it of the potenial to be powerful, mature or moving.
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Avuce for short (ah-voo-che or ah-voo-ke or ah-voo-sse depending on pronunciation) -
Fatfish 3,377 posts
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Registered 18 years agojamesphilp wrote:
"Audio-visual user-controlled experiences"
Avuce for short (ah-voo-che or ah-voo-ke or ah-voo-sse depending on pronunciation)
Preffered TITS. If you're going to change it, at least don't make it sound any more geeky than it already does. -
jellyhead 24,356 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMultimedia Interactive Nuevo Gaming Experience.
Yup, gets my vote.
I'm off to get some MINGE. -
joey 297 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThe TV/Console setup in our house is refered to as
"the electrical amuser"
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Fatfish 3,377 posts
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Registered 18 years agojellyhead wrote:
Multimedia Interactive Nuevo Gaming Experience.
Yup, gets my vote.
I'm off to get some MINGE.
The Nuevo is a little tenuous - just abbreviate Interactive with IN and I think you may be on to something there! -
pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI think I've come up with the winner...
"Multi User Nocturnal Gaming Interactivity Neglecting Girlfriends"
Peej
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ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agoAhab wrote:
In terms of how they are referred to/what they are seen as. I'm not arguing semantics, the thread is about the image that the word 'gaming' portrays, not the meaning of the word. Mr. Chimp got it, and even replied before you, but I'm not too surprised that you continued with your pointless, sarcastic comment.
ilmaestro wrote:
Stormflood wrote:
No, they're sports.
Football and cricket are games, but that doesn't seem to bother anyone.
Yes, of course, as they can't be both at the same time. WTF -
ilmaestro 32,932 posts
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Registered 18 years agopjmaybe wrote:
'Gaming' Peej, not 'mass wanking'.
I think I've come up with the winner...
"Multi User Nocturnal Gaming Interactivity Neglecting Girlfriends"
Peej
Edited by pjmaybe at 16:05:26 17-10-2006 -
jellyhead 24,356 posts
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Registered 18 years agoNice one fatfish, thought about that then went with what i wrote.
So...
Multimedia INteractive Gaming Experience.
Nice & classy.
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Fatfish 3,377 posts
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Registered 18 years agopjmaybe wrote:
"Multi User Nocturnal Gaming Interactivity Neglecting Girlfriends"
What the fuck is MUNGING? MINGING would have made sense. MINGING would have been funny. But MUNGING?!?!
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jellyhead 24,356 posts
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Registered 18 years agoGoogle it, dare you. .gif)
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Can't we just file it under 'masterbation'?
Surely we would instantly be more accepted in the mainstream.
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