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MrWorf 17 Oct 2006 18:49:17 64,193 posts
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spindizzy wrote:

silentbob wrote:
His point was - the Wii, previously touted as an "accessible console for the family" was all about fun and value for money. The technology within bar the wii-motes and sensor bar themselves (i.e. the expensive stuff) is based around an ancient console. The 360 is not. So in actual fact Youthist was being mighty generous when comparing the two do you not think?

I'm not sure if sb was being sarcastic, but I actually agree with the above! You can make all the (valid) points you like about getting a new type of controller instead of a fancy new graphics chip (and you can even argue that this is more exciting for gaming - I'd disagree on the evidence so far, personally), but you CAN'T argue that the Wii is much cheaper than the 360. It just isn't - they're in exactly the same ballpark.

I agree, almost totally.

But keep in mind this still is the launch price. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii was at least Ł139.99 (no bundled game) by March next year.

The Xbox 360 was a full 100 smackers more on launch at Ł279.99, comparatively it the Wii (+ 1 bundled game dont't forget) is alot cheaper.

T.G. 17 Oct 2006 18:52:23 5,989 posts
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Razz wrote: But keep in mind this still is the launch price. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii was at least Ł139.99 (no bundled game) by March next year.

The Xbox 360 was a full 100 smackers more on launch at Ł279.99, comparatively the Wii (+ 1 bundled game don't forget) is a lot cheaper.

Razz tells it like it is.

T.G. 17 Oct 2006 18:52:27 5,989 posts
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TriodeBliss 17 Oct 2006 18:57:21 724 posts
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Carrybagma wrote:
And yes - Nintendo have got their greedy pants on right up to their chin. I don't think it's great that they're profitting from day 1 - it may yet backfire on them. Shareholders-1; consumers-0.

You'd fit in well here, Carrybagma.

Carrybagma 17 Oct 2006 18:58:36 3,904 posts
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Drakron wrote:Greedy?

Ok. Perhaps that's a bit unfair, but Nintendo made a lot a noise about it being far more 'accessible' (for which I, amongst others, read 'well priced') in their hype. They could have made it cheaper upfront and clawed the revenues back through increased (s/w and hardware) sales, but they didn't.

Razz is almost certainly right anyway.

haowan 17 Oct 2006 19:01:52 7,385 posts
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Accessibility refers to interaction, not price. Check under 'accessibility' in your start menu.

Carrybagma 17 Oct 2006 19:04:08 3,904 posts
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D

Drakron 17 Oct 2006 19:05:55 509 posts
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The Wii is going against the PS3, the XBox 360 is turning one year old and its no longer in launch period.

Of course there are bundles and special offers ... I have a premium at €299 but that is because this time we will start to look at Xbox 360 having such things, the Wii is launching and the official price listed for the Xbox 360 is still €299 for the core and so the Wii is cheaper, until MS cuts the price (not random store in portugal) the Wii is cheaper of all "next gen" consoles.

Sid-Nice 17 Oct 2006 19:10:41 15,848 posts
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jamesphilp wrote:
Will the Wii have some kind of headset?

YES

Mr_Brown 17 Oct 2006 19:31:31 1,032 posts
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Well obviously...Nintendo were probably aiming to be cheaper than its two competitors, which it as suceeded. Besides you get more fun for your money.

silentbob 17 Oct 2006 19:56:39 29,527 posts
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T.G. wrote:
Razz tells it like it is.

Any port in a storm eh Teeg!

His point is valid, except for the fact that he assumes the other consoles won't drop too. Which of course they will.

Anything else?

Lukus 17 Oct 2006 20:09:20 24,643 posts
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Ja_Long wrote:

Youthist wrote:

Ja_Long wrote:
Uh, yeah it is.

Do you want it for free or something?

Xbox 360, 2 wireless controllers, headset and PGR3 = Ł299

Wii , One controller, red steel and zelda = Ł259.
Wii, one controller, another extra controller, red steel and zelda = Ł299.

/ case rested?

Edited by Youthist at 17:13:10 17-10-2006

The price your quoting for the 360 seems to be for a core pack console which is just pointless.

I got a premium pack last week including 2 wireless controllers and 2 games (PGR and TR) for 300 smackers.

gerg 17 Oct 2006 21:02:16 880 posts
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I don't understand why people get annoyed at companies trying to do what companies generally want... you know, actually make some money on their product? I understand that the whole inclusion of Wii Sports is to "beef up" the Wii as a console (as much as it is the Wii's poster child), but at the end of the day, Nintendo's a business for God's sake! Furthermore, I'm sure plenty of people will see the console as Ł180 for out of the box entertainment, not something they're going to have to buy along with some fishing in GAME or wherever for more software.

Meh. Whatever. Just be glad that Sony isn't trying to make profit on the PS3 console.

AdamWest 17 Oct 2006 21:04:41 715 posts
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haowan wrote:
Plus as far as I know most people were disappointed with the price announcement.

I wasn't. Seems like an a-okay price to me.

Sid-Nice 17 Oct 2006 21:05:28 15,848 posts
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I've got an Xbox 360 and the reasons why I bought the console are totally different to why I'm going to buy a Wii. The price of the consoles don't come into the equation. I've said this on many occasion that I queued for 13 hours in Asda to buy an Xbox 360 on launch day. The store had 8 consoles available and I was third in the queue (5 Premium Packs) and (3 Core Packs) were up for the taking.

To have the honour of purchasing a Premium pack; you had to buy this shit that was bundled with it, Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo and a Play and Charge Kit. I think the price was Ł365 but I also bought COD 2 and NFS Most Wanted. The next day I went out and bought PGR, an extra controller, 12 months Xbox Live and an additional Play and Charge Kit. The total cost was about Ł575.

With the Wii I'll be buying the console, 5 games and an extra controller and nunchuck for about Ł375. I don't need the wireless connector that I paid Ł60 for the 360; ok so the Wii won't have tearing, jaggies and pop-ups; but I can put up with shit graphics if the playability is good.

morriss 17 Oct 2006 21:06:54 71,293 posts
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Big if for Ł375, Sid. I'm waiting for reviews and what you have to say before I dive in.

AdamWest 17 Oct 2006 21:10:09 715 posts
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Sid Nice wrote:
but I can put up with shit graphics if the playability is good.

don't forget; all 60fps, all the time.

Sid-Nice 17 Oct 2006 21:20:41 15,848 posts
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AdamWest wrote:

Sid Nice wrote:
but I can put up with shit graphics if the playability is good.

don't forget; all 60fps, all the time.

I hope that isn't 60 Fucking Pop-ups per second.

AdamWest 17 Oct 2006 21:21:40 715 posts
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heh, you never know.

Sid-Nice 17 Oct 2006 21:30:59 15,848 posts
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morriss wrote:
Big if for Ł375, Sid. I'm waiting for reviews and what you have to say before I dive in.

I could get the Wii earlier than expected especially if I adopt a US console; if I stick to the European launch the console could be in my possession by Wednesday the 6th of December. I wouldn't recommend anybody to buy a Nintendo console; not after the abortion NOE made with the Gamecube. I was going to post an article called "Wii Shall Overcome" an insight into the pros and cons of Nintendo's new machine.

famous_roy 18 Oct 2006 11:58:50 4,126 posts
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dont mean to keep this fiery thread afloat but i just checked my play.com order for me wii.

games are now Ł32.99 h'apparently. So a wii, 3 games (zelda, monkeyball, wiisports) and an extra wiimote =Ł270

and compared to the launch price of 360 with one wireless controller and no games Ł280, and considering the games were Ł50 each...

also anyone else noticed this games price change?

zErOb_cOOl 18 Oct 2006 12:07:15 3,237 posts
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Youthist wrote:
By the time you have two controllers and a game or two. Its not that cheap.

That's not the way to start a winning discussion here on EG. You have to cover every concievable angle of discussion, or it's flames! and fire! and shooting down! Down down down down!........ .

Tonka 18 Oct 2006 12:49:35 31,980 posts
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iTunes suck

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FeZZ wrote:

Tonka wrote:
iTunes suck

Wait, I've got this one.

It's perfect on mac !

Sorry; that's not EG proof.

There shouldn't be a space between mac and !. It should also say:

"It's perfect on a mac!"

Goban 18 Oct 2006 12:57:18 10,121 posts
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disussedgenius wrote:

FeZZ wrote:

Tonka wrote:
iTunes suck

Wait, I've got this one.

It's perfect on mac !
Sorry; that's not EG proof.

There shouldn't be a space between mac and !. It should also say:

"It's perfect on a mac!"

Shouldn't mac be Mac

Deleted user 18 October 2006 13:00:11

Goban wrote:
Shouldn't mac be Mac

Not too sure, technically it should be but I'm not sure whether 'mac' is the proper word for it.

Edit: Just checked the Apple website and, yes, it would appear that 'Mac' is acceptable.

Edited by disussedgenius at 13:01:46 18-10-2006

Deleted user 18 October 2006 13:06:52

You should have seen a thread on the Macrumors forum a while ago - supernova.

Basically it all came down to the fact that there was .mac, which was not capitalised, but this was the only instance of this.

Generally, when refering to hardware, "Mac" is the only acceptable term.

Oh, iTunes working great on my Mac(s) too. My PC-user friend says it don't do too good on his machine though.

tiddles 18 Oct 2006 13:09:22 3,555 posts
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And the moral of the tale is:

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Deleted user 18 October 2006 13:20:01

Razz wrote:
But keep in mind this still is the launch price. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii was at least Ł139.99 (no bundled game) by March next year.

/picks up flamethrower

And I reckon by Christmas 2007 it will be about Ł99.99 with a whole bundle of games, controllers, cables, and stuff.

/drops behind sandbag and takes up defensive positions

Tonka 18 Oct 2006 13:31:21 31,980 posts
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FeZZ wrote:
iTunes sucks

I agree

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