Following HDTV 720p or 1080i?

  • OnlyMe 23 Dec 2006 13:57:02 3,136 posts
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    This has been bothering me for a long time. What would you consider the optimal resolution on the Xbox 360? My tv is most likely native 720p, but as most other HDTVs it can display 1080i too. But which would you say is the best one? Also, will framerate issues sometimes be influenced by the resolution I choose?

    Is there a definite choice here, or is the difference so little that there's no point in choosing one over the other?
  • alexc7496 23 Dec 2006 13:59:48 1,800 posts
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    720P For me but I go through the VGA!
  • polar 23 Dec 2006 14:27:46 1,098 posts
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    Me too. Never noticed any difference between 1080i and 720p over componant anyway.
  • Micro_Explosion 23 Dec 2006 14:34:00 9,692 posts
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    I go with 1080i. Seemed very very slightly better on mine - might be specific to each model TV though.
  • OnlyMe 23 Dec 2006 14:43:07 3,136 posts
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    I have a HDMI connection, but I'm saving it for the PS3. There's also a VGA input, is that even better than component? Also, I'm using a switchbox, should I connect it directly instead perhaps?
  • Freki 23 Dec 2006 16:16:45 166 posts
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    I thought the general rule was that 1080i is better for static or slow images while 720p was better for moving images?

    Regardless if the native res of the TV is closest to 720p (as most affordable sets are) then use that.
  • Psychotext 23 Dec 2006 16:18:42 62,858 posts
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    Freki wrote:
    I thought the general rule was that 1080i is better for static or slow images while 720p was better for moving images?
    This is correct.
  • morriss 23 Dec 2006 16:21:14 71,290 posts
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    Well my TV only accepts 1080i but scales it to 720p. It doesn't however accept 720p.

  • Deleted user 23 December 2006 16:26:38
    On my TV, there's hardly any difference between 720p and 1080i. I've set it to 720p because it's progressive, really.
  • Cripper 26 Dec 2006 06:55:42 31 posts
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    On my TV a Toshiba 42wlt66 (1080i native resolution) 1080i looks much nicer than 720p over component. The difference is really noticeable on hd-dvds & dashboard/media center.
  • qwerty123 27 Dec 2006 09:52:45 231 posts
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    720p definitely. I’m using a Panasonic D60
    Especially with fast moving games
    You probably wouldn’t notice how bad 1080i is as your old CRT tele was probably interlaced as well. Once you’ve tried 720p there’s no going back.

    A good example where you can really tell the difference is playing MOTOGP.
    (Forget the screen tearing for a minute)
    Take a corner nice and smoothly and notice the background stutter as it scrolls across.
    Switch to 720p
    Take the same corner and notice how smooth everything is.

    You’d probably get the same effect playing PGR3 and even in shooters such as GRAW & GOW when rotating.

    Having smooth graphics far outweighs the higher res as you’ll struggle to notice the difference in detail.
  • qwerty123 27 Dec 2006 10:55:07 231 posts
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    Most 720p LCD's will also display 1080i

    With regards to which cable-
    Everyone has a different opinion.
    Pretty much the same (performance) Depends a lot on your screen.

    Some will say the VGA is sharper but colour looks washed out.
    For me the component looks very sharp and would only consider a new cable if they bring out a HDMI lead, if the 360 is capable?

    A TFT monitor may be a different story, a VGA may look better but if you have an LCD I wouldn't bother.

    Also older games may have issues with the VGA - I'm sure PGR3 had some screen size ratio issues with squashed looking cars?
  • deem 27 Dec 2006 10:56:02 31,653 posts
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  • Flightrisker 27 Dec 2006 11:05:58 18,139 posts
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    Quick question, this seems as good a place as any. I'm using my HDTV (Tevion 32") as my PC monitor at the moment as my room flooded and I've moved into the sitting room.

    The only resolutions it supports are 800x600 and 1024x768 both at 60 htz which is a bit crap (but the tely is class otherwise and only €650 so I'm not complaining =] )

    Anyway, what I don't get is why doesn't it support widescreen settings? Is this the fault of my telly of the gfx card (old geforce 4 as my gfx broke)

    The picture is stretched at 1024x768, anyone know anything I can do to get around it?

  • qwerty123 27 Dec 2006 11:10:25 231 posts
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    after reading this article i'm not sure its even worth getting HDMI

    The guy's conclusion just confirms my point that a lot depends on your screen. see below

    "So, which is better, DVI or component? HDMI or component? The answer--unsatisfying, perhaps, but true--is that it depends. It depends upon your source and display devices, and there's no good way, in principle, to say in advance whether the digital or the analog connection will render a better picture. You may even find, say, that your DVD player looks better through its DVI or HDMI output, while your satellite or cable box looks better through its component output, on the same display. In this case, there's no real substitute for simply plugging it in and giving it a try both ways."
  • qwerty123 27 Dec 2006 11:17:44 231 posts
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    I'm not really into PC gaming but either you set your PC up to output in 16:9
    Or more simply set your tele to 4:3
    it should have a button for the aspect ratio on the remote.

    You’ll get a black border to the left and right but at least your picture should be scaled correctly.
  • Flightrisker 27 Dec 2006 11:25:15 18,139 posts
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    Cheers qwerty. I'll see what I can do :)

    The fact that I can get widescreen settings in Display on my monitor, put not through the telly suggests it's the telly at fault. Also the info on the tv suggests it supports 1024x768. but surely they would have included a widescreen ratio seeing as it's a widescreen telly..

    Or am I on the wrong track completly?
  • octo 27 Dec 2006 11:26:09 980 posts
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    In my opinion, the major benefit to HDMI was that it would carry digital audio as well as video. One cable for the price two! As the xbox doesn't do HDMI it forces you down the component / digital co-ax route. Which is fine in my opinion. The sound quality from 5.1 (or more) surround is great and my component picture at 720p is rock steady and beautiful.

    The xbox 360, at the moment, does not support the next generation audio formats (Dolby TrueHD et al). This can only be deilvered via HDMI. However unless you are using it as your HD-DVD player I'd argue that this is a feature you won't miss. Infact, I'm afraid the next gen DVD / BD format war does not have me excited at all. I'm satisfied with my DVD in 480p and my sound in 5.1. It remains to be seen how these companies are going to convince a slightly-above-average-in-the-know-joe like me to get into HD.
  • Flightrisker 28 Dec 2006 12:04:13 18,139 posts
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    I fixed my problem, in case it happens to anyone else here's what ya do.

    In Control Panel > Display> Settings > Advanced > Monitor

    Untick hide modes this monitor cannot display.

    It allows up to 1280 x 768 to work fine, anything over that wont display. But the main thing is that it's in proper widescreen now and looks fantastic.
  • el-bandito 28 Dec 2006 12:21:51 504 posts
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    The native res of my tv is 1080i

    I've tried the xbox on both 720p/1080i and I've settled for the later.

    There seemed to be some graphical glitches (very minor) on 720p that didn't appear at 1080i. (Was tv was scaling to 1080i anyway?)

    Colours seemed a little less saturated at 1080i as well
  • JaysonG 28 Dec 2006 23:51:31 830 posts
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    1080p ftw

    Honestly though... It depends on the game but theres no need to keep switching.

    Edited by JaysonG at 23:52:35 28-12-2006
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