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  • Mike1980 14 Oct 2013 09:43:39 531 posts
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    So on Saturday I had tooth ache. I couldn't put any pressure on it without awful pain. Sunday the pain had more or less gone but I now have a swollen gum, so obviously I need to see a dentist. Problem is I haven't been in about 16 years. What are the chances I have to re-register or whatever I have to do to bee seen?
  • Dougs 14 Oct 2013 09:49:20 100,414 posts
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    Pretty high. Dentists kick you off their register if you haven't been for a while. Good luck finding a NHS one at short notice!
  • Mike1980 14 Oct 2013 10:04:23 531 posts
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    I figured it would be, thankfully the pain is more than manageable.
  • Salaman 14 Oct 2013 10:06:32 24,162 posts
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    Mike1980 wrote:
    I haven't been in about 16 years.
    Seriously!? 0_o
  • Mike1980 14 Oct 2013 10:25:38 531 posts
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    I know. Last time I went I was to have some teeth out. I had the gas mask put on and I started panicking, kicking around and just needed to get out of there.

    You can just imagine how attractive my mouth is.
  • Buztafen 14 Oct 2013 10:25:50 17,543 posts
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    Brush your teeth and gums atleast twice a day for the next week. Swill mouth with Corsodyl once a day. If it gets worse or is still a problem in a week then look for a dentist.

    /Not a real dentist
  • Deleted user 23 April 2015 19:31:21
    Does anyone have any recommendations for Root Canal treatment in London?

    I'm finding it all a bit confusing figuring out what to do after I developed a severe toothache a last week. I moved to the UK from a couple of years ago so I'd never been to a dentist here, but with a bit of googling I managed to get an NHS appointment booked in, which I attended today.

    Which was fine, except all he did was tell me I need root canal treatment on a molar, and that they didn't offer it on the nhs at that clinic. They have a specialist who comes in occasionally who could do it for me privately, but his next availability is a month away. So I told them I'd find somewhere else.

    I don't mind paying, but so far while googling and calling a few places nobody's really been able to commit to anything, they tell me to come in and they'll have a look at it then see what needs to be done after that, but that doesn't really fill me with confidence that it will be any better than today's appointment.

    Does anyone have any recommendations of somewhere I can get the treatment done, and get it done quickly (as in, have the pain gone within the next day or two, with follow up appointments later if necessary)?
  • DanDanDanDan 23 Apr 2015 19:53:16 72 posts
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    @quokka Had to have a root canal redone recently as it wasn't quite right. Was recommended a bloke who only does this stuff and he was really good. I think he has a place near Harley Street but I went Hendon way.

    Not sure how quick he could get you in but private is usually quicker than NHS. But he does cost. You won't get much change out of £700.

    I'll DM you details if you're interested.
  • Youthist 23 Apr 2015 19:58:38 14,724 posts
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    quokka wrote:
    Does anyone have any recommendations for Root Canal treatment in London?

    I'm finding it all a bit confusing figuring out what to do after I developed a severe toothache a last week. I moved to the UK from a couple of years ago so I'd never been to a dentist here, but with a bit of googling I managed to get an NHS appointment booked in, which I attended today.

    Which was fine, except all he did was tell me I need root canal treatment on a molar, and that they didn't offer it on the nhs at that clinic. They have a specialist who comes in occasionally who could do it for me privately, but his next availability is a month away. So I told them I'd find somewhere else.

    I don't mind paying, but so far while googling and calling a few places nobody's
    really been able to commit to anything,
    they tell me to come in and they'll have a look at it then see what needs to be done after that, but that doesn't really fill me with
    confidence that it will be any better than today's appointment.
    Does anyone have any recommendations of somewhere I can get the treatment done, and get it done quickly (as in, have the pain gone within the next day or two, with follow up appointments later if necessary)?
    All I can tell you is if Letsgo had his way you would have toothache from now until Farage kicks you out of this country
  • Fonzie 23 Apr 2015 20:06:17 3,492 posts
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    An NHS dentist should be able to carry out a root cana. The only reason they don't do is that it is not cost effective for them. Root canal had to be carried out over several visits but they can only charge you one fee for the course of treatment.

    If it was me, I would rather a root canal was carried out by a specialist (an endodontist) as you have to know what you are doing. The smallest error can result in the need for extraction. I work in a dental hospital with consultant dentists who will refer their patients to another consultant who specialises in this treatment rather than do it themselves.
  • ILoveThrashMetal 23 Apr 2015 20:14:36 1,066 posts
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    @quokka In theory you should be able to get root canal done on the nhs, but as it's on a molar they tend to be more tricky as they have more canals than a canine or pre-molar and basically the dentist will get paid peanuts for doing it because it takes longer. So they kind of blag it by saying "this will be tricky to do so I advise you have it done by a specialist endodontist"
    The specialist usually want a referral from your dentist (ours does) as usually they have all the info about your problem plus x-rays you may of had.
    Personally I would be very careful about who you see and what you pay. It always pays to do some research and look at who's doing the treatment and if they have the relevant qualifications.
    Matey above is correct about the price, usually between £500 - £700 but you may also need a crown in the future as the tooth is effectively dead and will become brittle, that's another £220-£500.
  • Fonzie 23 Apr 2015 20:48:20 3,492 posts
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    Or, if you have a teaching dental hospital nearby, get seen by the dental students. The treatment might take longer but is overseen by experienced dentists. Our students do a great job, on the whole, and treatment is free.
  • Keyb0ardasaurus 23 Apr 2015 20:52:24 1,720 posts
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    ^love the on the whole qualifier there.
  • Fonzie 23 Apr 2015 20:58:30 3,492 posts
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    Keyb0ardasaurus wrote:
    ^love the on the whole qualifier there.
    Haha.
  • Dougs 24 Apr 2015 06:21:11 100,414 posts
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    Fuck! Thank Christ my only root canal was done on the NHS a few years back. This also highlights the danger of privatisation in the rest of the NHS. I don't know the history very well of why dentistry is an acceptable 2 tier but this sort of thing should send alarm bells ringing.... (happy to be educated on why not though)
  • ILoveThrashMetal 24 Apr 2015 09:06:18 1,066 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Fuck! Thank Christ my only root canal was done on the NHS a few years back. This also highlights the danger of privatisation in the rest of the NHS. I don't know the history very well of why dentistry is an acceptable 2 tier but this sort of thing should send alarm bells ringing.... (happy to be educated on why not though)
    Because the pot of money gets smaller each year. Putting it bluntly, where would you like your tax to go, to the baby unit?  or the dentist?
    I very much doubt nhs dentistry will be around for much longer, and you can see already that you're almost forced in the private direction.
    I think (I will have to ask the boss) that say you have a silver nhs crown which is a band 3 treatment costing £222.50,the nhs will pay for 10%,the lab work is about £60,then you have all the wages, materials, leaving not a lot.
    If you have a private white crown for (here)  £350, the lab fee is about £70 leaving all that extra cash for my non existent pay rise. So basically there is fuck all money in nhs dentistry.
    Also unfortunately there are no restrictions or regulations as to what a private dentist can/will charge, if you feel like you're being taken for a ride then you probably are.
  • DanDanDanDan 24 Apr 2015 09:07:42 72 posts
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    @Dougs I have a crazy bend at the tip of the root. The files they use in the NHS aren't flexible enough to get round it so I had no choice but to go private where he files are a better quality.

    The kick in the nuts was the dentist showing me the files and they're all in the same box. "If you pay me more I can pick a file from this row". Don't agree with it at all but hey ho.

    Edited by DanDanDanDan at 09:08:02 24-04-2015
  • Dougs 24 Apr 2015 09:14:07 100,414 posts
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    I get that in times of limited resource, you have to prioritise but the point is, it should never have been allowed to get to this point in the first place. Too far gone now of course, I was really just flagging up that it could be a slippery slope. What next? Need a new hip/knee/cataracts done? Tough shit, babies come first.

    @Dan - it's that sort of thing that grinds my gears a lot. Same bloke, same practice, same instruments.

    I may just have all mine whipped out and go for dentures. My teeth are fucked after not looking after them enough when younger and I have a bad grinding issue (mostly during the day) that I can't fix. :-/
  • ILoveThrashMetal 24 Apr 2015 09:15:03 1,066 posts
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    DanDanDanDan wrote:
    @Dougs I have a crazy bend at the tip of the root. The files they use in the NHS aren't flexible enough to get round it so I had no choice but to go private where he files are a better quality.

    The kick in the nuts was the dentist showing me the files and they're all in the same box. "If you pay me more I can pick a file from this row". Don't agree with it at all but hey ho.
    All the files are pretty much the same just different sizes. What your paying for privately is time and the equipment that a specialist has. 2x15min appointments on the nhs, or 2-3 hours with a specialist.
  • ILoveThrashMetal 24 Apr 2015 09:19:04 1,066 posts
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    @Dougs go and get a boil in the bag mouth guard from a sports shop for starters. You can get a bite guard from your dentist but if you fuck it up in quick time you can get referred for a top notch super hard one.
  • DanDanDanDan 24 Apr 2015 09:20:47 72 posts
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    ILoveThrashMetal wrote:
    DanDanDanDan wrote:
    @Dougs I have a crazy bend at the tip of the root. The files they use in the NHS aren't flexible enough to get round it so I had no choice but to go private where he files are a better quality.

    The kick in the nuts was the dentist showing me the files and they're all in the same box. "If you pay me more I can pick a file from this row". Don't agree with it at all but hey ho.
    All the files are pretty much the same just different sizes. What your paying for privately is time and the equipment that a specialist has. 2x15min appointments on the nhs, or 2-3 hours with a specialist.
    It was more the flexibility of the files and how they spring back. Or rather how the NHS files didn't spring back.
  • Dougs 24 Apr 2015 09:23:21 100,414 posts
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    My credit card is weeping at the thought! My dentist was of the opinion that it's more about me recognising that I'm doing it and trying to stop it that way than a guard....
  • ILoveThrashMetal 24 Apr 2015 09:32:34 1,066 posts
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    @Dougs it is a habit yes. Try the boil in the bag one first, only about a fiver. Then hack at it with a pair of scissors to make it less bulky and see if it helps. We do private ones for £50 as they come under a band 3 for nhs and paying £222 for one of them is taking the piss.
  • Dougs 24 Apr 2015 09:53:21 100,414 posts
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    You mean the NHS charges band 3 for a fiver guard? Or that guards privately are cheaper than NHS in general?

    Will give it a go, cheers.
  • ILoveThrashMetal 24 Apr 2015 10:42:15 1,066 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    You mean the NHS charges band 3 for a fiver guard? Or that guards privately are cheaper than NHS in general?

    Will give it a go, cheers.
    Anything that we send to the lab on the nhs is band 3. For a bite guard our practice does it privately for £50.So either nhs £222.50 or private £50.Both are custom made to fit you, a boil in the bag one is just to see how you would get on with a bit of plastic in your gob before forking out for the custom made one. Of course if you're pregnant or on benefits you would get them on the nhs as then they're free.............. I'm assuming you're not pregnant :)
  • Dougs 24 Apr 2015 10:44:58 100,414 posts
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    Cheers, useful to know....
  • anephric 24 Apr 2015 11:01:37 5,274 posts
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    I used to wear a mouth guard because I have a malocclusive bite but gave up because my mouth smelt like a particularly feculent pair of old man's pants every morning.

    The dentist said if I didn't do something my front teeth would be gone by the time I was 30. I'm 40 now and they're in exactly the same nick.
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