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Goban 10,121 posts
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BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Registered 12 years agoBinaryBob101 wrote:
squarejawhero wrote:
Half an hour to go.
Where is this trailer to be found then?
New page blues.
It's up at Apple! -
Apple's fucked up. Their timer's gone away, there's no link to it and iTunes has nada. Idiots. -
HA! The really have fucked up. All the URL's are invalid. -
Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
Sound aside (it was an essential development) colour doesn't add to the ability to tell a compelling story.
MrED209 wrote:
I'm sorry, but there's simply no way whatsoever that 3D can be used to tell a compelling story. It can be used in the telling of a compelling story, but the 3D aspect itself will make absolutely shit all difference to the compelling nature of that story.
If the film doesn't stand on it's own two feet without the 3D visuals, it ain't compelling. The only thing the film will succeed in doing is showing that 3D is getting better. If the film 'bombs' it won't be anything to do with the 3D elements, which I'm sure will be very impressive. Many many more films will be made in 3D in the future now he's pioneered this tech, regardless of how well this film does, because if it's essentially shit everyone will eventually realise it's shit, not least better filmmakers who will take his tech and say "We can do much better than that pitiful excuse for a story. Look!"
Ultimately, it really is just a gimmick. Good films are about good stories, good scripts, good acting and a skillful grasp of basic technique.
You could say the same thing about colour but almost all films are now made in colour. Hell you could even say the same thing about sound back in the day but now no-one would imagine ever make a completely silent film bar the odd extreme filmmaker.
EDIT: I'm being a bit of a devil's advocate but to dismiss it so cavalierly when there's so much pressure behind the adoption of the format is a bit blinkered.
So my point stands: 3D will not die if this film dies. 3D is completely unrelated to this film's success at telling a compelling story. I'm not dismissing 3D whatsoever. -
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BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Registered 12 years agoOh dear, this isn't good. -
Shit innit. I was actually wound up for this.
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BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Registered 12 years agoYeah, it's shit. Although I've been taking the piss royally, I was really looking forward to what the self-proclaimed King Of The World has been screwing about with for ten years.
Apple will be getting a rather large bollocking about now I think. Bad Apple. -
Cameron's got a wicked temper. I'd imagine he's really railing on someone right now. -
Pac-man-ate-my-wife 7,087 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMrED209 wrote:
Sound aside (it was an essential development) colour doesn't add to the ability to tell a compelling story.
Go and watch the Wizard Of Oz then come back and we can have this discussion!
EIDT: But 3D could be used in interesting and engaging ways to have a profound effect on the audience, just because it hasn't, doesn't mean it won't.
I'm no advocate for 3D and have a number of concerns about it's viability and practicality amongst other things, but this film is supposed to show that 3D can be used to significantly enhance a film.
If it doesn't work then other filmmakers may well decide to not bother with 3D and consign it to the crash-bash blockbusters and Ice Age 19. -
That's a poor point. -
Pac-man-ate-my-wife 7,087 posts
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Registered 18 years agosquarejawhero wrote:
That's a poor point.
What is? -
Scurrminator 9,045 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI wish to be entertained, if this is a new way to be entertained then it will be a success (for me).
If it loses something when just watching it as a normal film then it also succeeds in that it can't be 'pirated'.
Guess I'll find out at the preview thing tomorrow! -
Tonka 31,980 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI thought Coraline was brilliant in 3D.
Yes, it's a gimmick. But it's a nice gimmick. -
I'm not saying it isn't! I for one welcome this alleged new dawn in 3D technology. I'm just saying that 3D visuals cannot make a STORY compelling. They can embellish the film and draw you in, but if the story is shite, the story is shite.
That's all. Wizard of Oz going to colour was a neat trick but it didn't really affect the story. -
Scurrminator 9,045 posts
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Still not working 30 minutes later. Oh dear. -
Pike 13,459 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMrED209 wrote:
Sound aside (it was an essential development) colour doesn't add to the ability to tell a compelling story.
Nonsense. Colour is one more tool a skilled storyteller can use deliver their message. It can absolutely add depth to a story. Not all, but certainly some. Just look how colour is used in Hero, Moulin Rouge, Delicatessen, Saving Private Ryan and pretty much any movie by Wong Kar-wai. -
Talk about stating the obvious. If the story is crap then nothing will "make" the story improve, other than improving the story - that goes for 3D, colour, lighting, quality of acting, quality of writing - literally anything.
However, to say "the 3D aspect itself will make absolutely shit all difference to the compelling nature of that story" is a different point, and nonsence. As with all the other above examples I give, they all have the potential to make a huge difference to how compelling a story is. -
BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Registered 12 years agoStill borked. Cameron will be tearing new eyeball sockets in previously undiscovered places. -
Scurrminator 9,045 posts
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Registered 16 years agosee post above yours squarejaw -
Demikaze 6,692 posts
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Registered 12 years agoPah, an hour's wait isn't going to kill anyone.
If anything, it hypes it up even more. -
Scurrminator 9,045 posts
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Registered 16 years agoi posted a working link to it!!! -
Demikaze 6,692 posts
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Registered 12 years agoScurrminator wrote:
see post above yours squarejaw
The file appears to be 92.0kb large...? Something's gone all funny like. -
BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Registered 12 years agoCool. Now we'll know. -
Pike wrote:
No, it can add depth to a film, how it's conveyed to you, make it look more appealing, be more effective in it's telling. But if the story is shite, the story is shite.
MrED209 wrote:
Sound aside (it was an essential development) colour doesn't add to the ability to tell a compelling story.
Nonsense. Colour is one more tool a skilled storyteller can use deliver their message. It can absolutely add depth to a story. Not all, but certainly some. Just look how colour is used in Hero, Moulin Rouge, Delicatessen, Saving Private Ryan and pretty much any movie by Wong Kar-wai. -
Scurrminator 9,045 posts
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Registered 16 years agoit's embedded, you can't download it, just click on the link. -
Why are people saying the trailers are borked. No they're not - I'm about to watch it.
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