The "I've got an iPhone" thread Page 11

  • rock27gr 16 Jun 2007 21:22:13 6,439 posts
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  • otto Moderator 16 Jun 2007 22:03:03 49,322 posts
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    rock27gr wrote:
    The only issue I can see here, which I only just noticed TBH, is the requirement for iTunes for sync features, which I guess could be a problem to some people, though not many I would imagine.
    You obviously don't work for a large organisation. Imagine the IT department in any fair-sized company allowing people to install iTunes on their work machines just so they can sync Outlook with their phones. o_O
  • urban 16 Jun 2007 22:11:47 13,148 posts
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    don't give them iphones..they don't deserve them.
  • rock27gr 16 Jun 2007 22:27:53 6,439 posts
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    otto wrote:
    rock27gr wrote:
    The only issue I can see here, which I only just noticed TBH, is the requirement for iTunes for sync features, which I guess could be a problem to some people, though not many I would imagine.
    You obviously don't work for a large organisation. Imagine the IT department in any fair-sized company allowing people to install iTunes on their work machines just so they can sync Outlook with their phones. o_O

    What's so different that having to install SonyEricson software to do the same?

    EDIT:
    Or is the fact that iPhones software will be just one complete application rather than a few applications as is the case with my SE phone supposed to be a negative point?

    Edited by rock27gr at 22:30:00 16-06-2007
  • brokenkey 16 Jun 2007 23:10:00 11,128 posts
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    at our place its more that itunes is primarily a bit of software for playing with MP3s, and that means two things
    1) people have mp3s on their pcs,
    2) whilst they are listening to them, they aren't doing work.
  • otto Moderator 16 Jun 2007 23:11:30 49,322 posts
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    rock27gr wrote:
    What's so different that having to install SonyEricson software to do the same?

    EDIT:
    Or is the fact that iPhones software will be just one complete application rather than a few applications as is the case with my SE phone supposed to be a negative point?
    iTunes is not a dedicated sync application. Try explaining to your IT manager that you "need" iTunes in order to do your work. Then watch as he laughs you out of his office.
  • rock27gr 16 Jun 2007 23:19:58 6,439 posts
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    otto wrote:
    iTunes is not a dedicated sync application. Try explaining to your IT manager that you "need" iTunes in order to do your work. Then watch as he laughs you out of his office.

    I would assume that iPhone is a device wih enough high profile for people, especially IT people, to realise this fact when the phone comes out?

    Plus, if he still doesn't get it, the proof is only one internet link away?

    Though I do understand your point, the solution should't be as hard as you assume.
  • rock27gr 16 Jun 2007 23:20:56 6,439 posts
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    brokenkey wrote:
    at our place its more that itunes is primarily a bit of software for playing with MP3s, and that means two things
    1) people have mp3s on their pcs,
    2) whilst they are listening to them, they aren't doing work.

    :)

    Are they also locked off the net?
  • otto Moderator 16 Jun 2007 23:23:35 49,322 posts
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    rock27gr wrote:
    I would assume that iPhone is a device wih enough high profile for people, especially IT people, to realise this fact when the phone comes out?

    Plus, if he still doesn't get it, the proof is only one internet link away?
    Heh, more evidence that you've never worked in a large organisation. :)

    These days, OS images on office machines are locked down tighter than Tony Blair's toupé. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that my organisation, for example, will NEVER allow the installation of iTunes on the network. Never. It's a pity, but that's the way it is.
  • rock27gr 16 Jun 2007 23:30:17 6,439 posts
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    Hehe, as I said, most people should be fine, but not all.

    Though just wait until an emlpoye with high enough position gets one of these phones, and see how fast they install iTunes!
  • otto Moderator 16 Jun 2007 23:33:42 49,322 posts
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    OK, so we're disagreeing on what/who constitutes "most people". :)
  • rock27gr 16 Jun 2007 23:41:28 6,439 posts
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    otto wrote:
    OK, so we're disagreeing on what/who constitutes "most people". :)

    OK, I'll rephrase; some people will be fine, some will need to haggle, some won't be able to do anything about it, and some won't care about the damn thing anyway! :)

    Still, I bet if your Boss (or the IT manager) gets one, you'll get iTunes in no time!
  • wopr-lower-case 18 Jun 2007 14:07:07 2,198 posts
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    Apple today announced that iPhone will deliver significantly longer battery life when it ships on June 29 than was originally estimated when iPhone was unveiled in January. iPhone will feature up to 8 hours of talk time, 6 hours of Internet use, 7 hours of video playback or 24 hours of audio playback.* In addition, iPhone will feature up to 250 hours - more than 10 days - of standby time.
    Apple also announced that the entire top surface of iPhone, including its stunning 3.5-inch display, has been upgraded from plastic to optical-quality glass to achieve a superior level of scratch resistance and optical clarity.
  • Pike 18 Jun 2007 14:30:58 13,459 posts
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    Lol at Apple making demands as if they where a big player when in reality they are a tiny upstart going against larger and just as savvy competition.

    Edited by Pike at 18:34:05 18-06-2007
  • Deleted user 18 June 2007 17:33:24
    yeah i read that today and they included a table which turned out to a complete joke. Comparing it to other phone like the n95 and blackberry. Some points of notice.

    1) n95 has no wifi --yes it does
    2) did not include a table for camera, 3g, price etc.

    Really quite funny how full of it they are.


    ---Im writting this on my lovely macbook by the way so bite your tongue people.
  • joeking 19 Jun 2007 01:15:20 1,808 posts
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    Tbh, I think the iPhone is aimed at somebody like me, that wants an iPod...with cellular capabilities! Or the other way around, whichever happens to be your particular flavour of gravy.

    There's a lot of shite synced to my iPod video at present that is highly expendable, and is there not because it should [sic], but because I could, if you catch my slightly gramatically poor drift. So the 8GB's (well, 7.44 actually!) of storage space in the iPhone should be more than enough for all the music, videos, podcasts and photos that actually matter to me.

    Like I said, if it does calls, texts and harbours full iPod functionality, then I was already sold yesterday, in truth. Price tag completely justified. Everything else, the internet, the maps, email, etc, is simply inconsequential icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned. And by the sounds of things, the updated battery life should be more than enough for my daily commute to and from work and all.

    The iPhone to be released at year's end may be a v1, and it may turn out to be buggy as Hell, but screw it. When the time comes, I'll be in a position to afford one, and same goes for the inevitable v2 upgrade anyway (hopefully with more storage space, so I can re-sync all the shite!).

    So yeah, I'll be there on Day One, with my wallet in the air like I just don't care, and I'm looking forward to it.

    http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/

    Edited by joeking at 01:28:18 19-06-2007
  • Khanivor 19 Jun 2007 01:31:32 44,800 posts
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    $500 for a phone that only works on one network is a hell of a lot, especially when that network is expensive too, (and you will need a two year contract with monstrous get-out fees). Factor in that it's already not as feature rich as the competition and only has one real unique feature and it's debatable how successful it will really be. Not everything Apple touches turns to gold.

    But by fuck is it desirable :)
  • joeking 19 Jun 2007 01:33:12 1,808 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    Not everything Apple touches turns to gold.
    I hear the AppleTV device isn't pulling up any trees so far.
  • urban 19 Jun 2007 07:26:20 13,148 posts
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    america first for a while i believe.
  • GrandTheftApu 19 Jun 2007 07:27:18 6,117 posts
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    I think Apple is still in negotiations with the european networks, so it won't be out here this month.
  • GrandTheftApu 19 Jun 2007 07:39:36 6,117 posts
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    This speculates that it could be on Orange only.
  • Khanivor 19 Jun 2007 15:50:27 44,800 posts
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    Slurpy J wrote:
    And I'm assuming importing one is out of the question as they are network locked in the States?

    It's gonna be locked to one network in the US and I wouldn't be surprised if it's done in hardware just to make sure people are really fucking locked in. Even if they are unlockable you'd have to somehow get yourself an AT&T contract, which requires all sorts of credit checks, and then wait for your turn in the queue, as there's meant to be quite a waiting list for the iPhone.

    Apple hope to shift 10 million by the end of next year so at some point in the next 18 months it may be available unlocked but I would imagine that on its own it will cost an insane amount of money. When sumat costs at least 500 bucks with a contract, (and AT&T do 2 year minimum) then it's fair to surmise sans contract you're looking at possibly the most expensive phone ever.
  • otto Moderator 19 Jun 2007 15:54:23 49,322 posts
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    Yeah, no imports for this. It'll be out in Europe before long, the only reason they made this GSM is because of Europe. Europe is THE market for mobile phones, they can't possibly afford to ignore us. They'll be busy trying to find a continent-wide partner (and failing, see the last couple of pages of this thread), and if they can't, well then they may start selling it unlocked here in Europe (but they don't want to do that as it cripples some phone apps and disrupts their business model).

    A desirable gadget, no doubt, but not yet a paradigm shifter.
  • Deleted user 19 June 2007 15:56:17
    Haven't Prada / LG shit all over the iPhone by releasing that equally camp effort recently?

    Of course, it's not Mac compatible, but neither are Macs.
  • Deleted user 19 June 2007 15:58:14
    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Haven't Prada / LG shit all over the iPhone by releasing that equally camp effort recently?

    Of course, it's not Mac compatible, but neither are Macs.
    Eh?
  • Pike 19 Jun 2007 15:58:40 13,459 posts
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    I frankly don't get the iPhone. What does it offer, apart form a glitzy interface, that makes it superior to something like this? A phone that will, most likely be cheaper than the iPhone.
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