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@Oh-Bollox Don't forget Alice Cooper! Edited by wuntyphyve at 22:42:09 03-02-2015 |
John Carpenter - Underrated Film Genius...Or As Crap As Lucas? • Page 5
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wuntyate 17,494 posts
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Oh-Bollox 6,513 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@wuntyphyve Killing that poor geek with a bike, no less! 
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Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThe Thing bursts out of someone's eyeball and eats Lucas for breakfast.
I'll always love Carpenter more, if only for the bit on the Ghosts of Mars DVD extra where he's smoking in the corner of the studio in post-production and he just lets out this big sigh, dags a long drag on a smoke, and says "this is the worst piece of shit I've ever made."
I picture in my mind a similar moment with Lucas regarding the prequels. Except he's sucking on a ripe turd, and after he admits his guilt he gets offed. -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agoIt should also be remembered that American Graffiti was a MASSIVE hit. Huge. It was quite audacious at the time as well; pseudo-verite style and it prefigured the 50s nostalgia that, along with Grease, would be a big money spinner in 70s America. -
MrFlay 4,670 posts
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Registered 13 years agoPrince of Darkness is hilariously bad. Inventive but terrible. Ghosts of Mars is also quite bad but I enjoyed pretty much all his other movies even Starman.
I really should watch American Graffiti. I've seen most of the significant films from that era. I do dislike Lucas immensely for the prequel trilogy. He has too much contempt for his audience to be a good director. -
Humperfunk 8,634 posts
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Registered 9 years agoShould be seeing The Thing tonight for the first time ever. I will post my thoughts tomorrow.
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Humperfunk 8,634 posts
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Registered 9 years agoLads I know you've been waiting for 24 hours with dripping anticipation for my review, and I did indeed see it last night.
Humperfunk's Review of The Thing
It was good and I liked it.
Cheers!
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anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agoThe Thing has the best ending of all time.
I still have this framed on my wall. My missus hates it. Well, I hate your fucking damask flocked wallpaper. #DEALWITHIT
http://www.filmonpaper.com/posters/the-thing-quad-uk
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mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agojablonski wrote:
I don't know the history well enough to tell if THX was a big hit or not, but I always throught American Graffiti was his big break that got him the kudos to work on something like Star Wars (albeit somewhat supervised by people who know how to tell an epic story). Certainly I don't enjoy watching THX that much - beyond being a film of its time and indicative of the visual style he was going for with Star Wars, I just don't think it tells enough of a coherent story to be enjoyable to me.
But Lucas did as well or better than many of his contemporaries - THX, Graffiti and Star Wars (and this was all judgement, not luck) are huge achievements.
That he's fucked about with the film since, and especially the apparently dangerous car chase he's replaced with sterile CGI without mentioning on the box that he's done that puts me in a bad frame of mind, but I'm not sure that even in the context of the 70s it really stands up against films like Soylent Green, Planet of the Apes, or the Bodysnatchers remake (although I guess it's fair to point out that only PotA preceded THX chronolically, so it's possible THX had a greater influence on films like Soylent than I'm granting). And those aren't art-house movies by any stretch of the imagination I guess.
Perhaps Clockwork Orange is the most directly comparable film. But I guess nobody's arguing that either Carpenter or Lucas are on the same level as Kubrik at his prime.
tldr; THX is shit. You can only possibly like it because of its relation to Star Wars, which I don't even like that much, so to me THX is worthless. -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years ago^ Pure boolshit. The editing in THX is amazing, for a start. Truly innovative. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agoWhich editing? The 1971 editing, the 1981 editing or the 2004 editing? -
wuntyate 17,494 posts
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Registered 8 years ago@Humperfunk I preferred Humpnerfunk's review.
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MrFlay 4,670 posts
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If you like bleak endings in Hollywood movies, you should try the Mist. That makes the end of the Thing look Mary Poppins. -
wuntyate 17,494 posts
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Registered 8 years ago@MrFlay I would argue that. Despite what happens in The Mist, you get a sense of global victory. The Thing on the other hand... You don't know where it's going. You'll never know. One of them is infected, surely. If not, did they definitely destroy it? Was that the only one? If one of them IS infected and they get rescued... Game over man. That makes The Thing bleaker.
So... nyah
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You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe visual style of THX is nothing like Star Wars. Are you sure you're talking about THX? -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI don't even think of the ending of The Thing as that bleak, just wonderfully ambiguous and that Mac and Childs are quite happy to get pissed together and freeze to death.
Of course, there are tonnes of different readings of what the ending could mean, which is why it's also brilliant. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThat is one hell of a spoiler considering how many people in here are saying they haven't seen The Thing. -
MrFlay 4,670 posts
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Registered 13 years agoIn a global sense, you are correct. However in the context of each movie's narrative, I think the Mist wins and it's so bleak because they do actually appear to win after what the main character has done. -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Z2ag8FMZw
The opening scene of THX 1138. Watch that and tell me George Lucas, whatever he may have become later, was not at the bleeding edge in the 70s.
All props to Walter Murch as well. The style of THX is influenced by people like Stan Brakhage and Bruce Conner, as well as more obvious people like Antonioni. To just compare it to Hollywood SF of the time is pretty shortsighted. -
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Registered 13 years agoI can't believe anyone actually likes the Prince of Darkness. The only good thing in the movie is Alice Cooper dissolving into bugs. -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@Gus I'm not spoilerising films that are 30 years old, soz. We're all grown ups.
Rosebud is his sledge.
Rhett walks out on her.
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Registered 15 years agoNorman is Norma -
@eightbitboy Yes, it's deathly boring. There are no ghetto robots with gold grills doing rap poses, no sweaty oiled buttocks, no robot testicles or people running away from an explosion whilst exclaiming "DA-YUMMN".
For fuck's sake, Lucas.
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