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  • Deleted user 5 September 2019 18:22:50
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  • Bazooklad 5 Sep 2019 18:36:30 141 posts
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    What he said above - when youíre so close to someone and you feel like youíve lost control and lost them. Give yourself some breathing space and time - it will hopefully give you perspective on the situation. For better or worse.
    Donít throw yourself under the bus (metaphorically speaking) - step back and let the dust settle . Trust yourself to stay upright when the all around you is going tits up.
    A bit trite that last bit.
  • Garfy 6 Sep 2019 07:42:52 1,451 posts
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    Thanks for the posts, it can be hard to see the wood for the trees sometimes.

    We had a long talk last night. And while things aren't exactly back to normal I think we are on the right track for something better.
  • MrFlay 6 Sep 2019 09:05:06 4,475 posts
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    I know everyone says this but exercise has helped me a lot. I go to the gym/pool every morning. I do boxing and swimming. It helps get the frustration out and all the difficult feelings we find it difficult to express. 3 months ago I was a disaster.
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  • Garfy 14 Sep 2019 13:37:53 1,451 posts
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    Well she dumped me.

    So much for the track to something better
  • TechnoHippy 15 Sep 2019 11:21:34 17,309 posts
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    @Garfy Sorry to hear that - perhaps the best way forward now is to focus on yourself to try and get yourself into a better place. Then see what the future holds - at the moment it will feel darker than it may end up being.
  • Deleted user 15 September 2019 12:38:37
    Also sorry to hear it mate. Mental health issues and healthy relationships seem like a massive tight rope walk.

    I hope you find someone more accommodating in the future. Not that I know fully what you're going through.
  • TechnoHippy 16 Sep 2019 09:29:37 17,309 posts
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    I love how my mind isn't satisfied with mundane misery and decides to create unnecessary anxiety like "How would you feel if a small child jumped in front of the car right now?" Well not great broken brain, not great at all and thanks - now I can't stop thinking about it.

    Being awake sucks - YMMV.
  • CrispyXUKTurbo 17 Sep 2019 02:37:56 2,896 posts
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    I'm literally so broken that I've skipped a joint stag do with 35 friends because I don't trust anyone with my mums wandering :(
  • DrStrangelove 17 Sep 2019 15:10:30 15,152 posts
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    TechnoHippy wrote:
    Being awake sucks - YMMV.
    Sleeping sucks too when you dream
  • askew 17 Sep 2019 15:51:20 21,424 posts
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    Oh Crispy; oh Garfy: hugs and hugs
  • Garfy 17 Sep 2019 16:40:23 1,451 posts
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    Thanks man
  • Wavey 18 Sep 2019 14:10:46 1,015 posts
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    So the jobs I went for didn't end up being successful. Disappointed and i'm in quite a bad place at the moment. I've been putting off doing to the doctors for multiple reasons but its got to the point that i'm either sleeping or over eating and in an awful low mood with anxiety.

    I referred myself for counselling but the wait time is so long i'm looking at potentially another 6 weeks or more. Unsure if doctor might give medication but worried how that will effect jobs in the short term as I remember years ago it made me feel worse before potentially feeling better.

    Bit of a rant, but i'll be ringing at 8am tomorrow, luckily my surgery does same day appointments.

    Edited by Wavey at 14:10:59 18-09-2019
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 14:14:06
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  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 14:17:03
    Good luck, the world of doctors and counselling can be like rolling the dice.

    I was in a really bad way over a decade ago and got referred to a counsellor. She was okay but was doing pro bono when she specialises in children. The whole course just felt like a case of box ticking and trying to ascertain whether I was a a danger to myself or others. Once I could ring the relevant boxes on my psych sheet they let me go.

    Turns out ten years later that after an altercation where the police were involved and I was referred to a psychiatrist that I was bi polar type 2 and I've been referred to an adhd specialist to boot.

    So, what I'm trying to say is that if the advice youre getting seems wrong in the pit of your stomach then seek a second opinion
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 14:18:39
    @GuybrushFreepwood For anxiety I've been on mirtazapine and sertraline. I think of the two sertraline was most effective but had the worst side effects.

  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 14:18:58
    Sorry, that was meant for Wavey
  • Wavey 18 Sep 2019 14:30:59 1,015 posts
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    I remember a few years ago I went to the doctors, said I felt down and they gave me citalopram. I honestly couldn't tell you if it did anything.

    I've sat down and written bullet points of how I've been feeling, what my mood is stopping be from doing, etc. Might help them, might not, but I feel better going in prepared this time. I know what I need to do like exercise, getting out, etc, but at the moment I just can't face some basic stuff.

    I've not felt like "myself" for some time now. Anyway ranting again sorry! :)
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 15:00:26
    That's what this thread is for mate. Rant away, if it helps then all for the better
  • Ror 18 Sep 2019 15:48:16 20,086 posts
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    adamasunder12 wrote:
    @GuybrushFreepwood For anxiety I've been on mirtazapine and sertraline. I think of the two sertraline was most effective but had the worst side effects.

    I don't tend to be much of a sharer on here, but thought I'd chime in on this, just to reinforce the point that different things work for different people. Sertraline did absolutely nothing for me, but I've been on Mirtazapine for just over a year now, and it's made a big difference.

    What really sucked was switching over in and around the day I had an eleven hour flight. Eleven hours locked in a tube of farts with withdrawal symptoms FTL.
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 15:50:04
    Indeed they do, none of what I said should be taken as gospel. The human body is an incredibly complex thing.
  • Ror 18 Sep 2019 16:11:36 20,086 posts
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    Oh yeah, wasn't implying otherwise. It was a hastily thrown together expansion of your YMMV :)

    Just to say, if you do happen to go to your docs and decide you want to give medication a try (it took me years to come around to the idea myself), don't despair if you feel they aren't working. There are other things you can try.
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 16:26:47
    No worries mate, just thought I'd clarify my position.

    I also was determined to not try medication but this was before it was apparent that I don't really have a choice. My life is a trash fire because I was untreated for so long.

    I'm getting a bit more stable but I'm not sure my lithium levels are quite right. The thing is both myself and my psych are convinced I'm also adhd and treating one without treating the other isnt really any good. Kind of like vaccinations if some people decide not to have them.

    I've been waiting two years now for an appointment and my experiments with speed to alleviate the symptoms hasn't done much good. It's probably time I chased it up again.
  • Wavey 18 Sep 2019 21:27:54 1,015 posts
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    I think thats what scares me the most. Wondering if the medication would work. I know i'll have to start thinking long term and that there is no quick fix.

    My concern is what the job centre will think when I tell them. I expect they will tell me to continue looking for work even when ill. One step at a time though, need to focus on docs tomorrow and go from there. Bloody hard doing that though when all over the place.
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 21:37:44
    Get the doctor to sign you off and they can't say shit
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 21:45:55
    I've been on sertraline for a couple of years now and I genuinely don't know if it's helped or not. With my hectic family life and now stressful work I know like anyone else I have good and bad days. I'm finding the line is blurred between being like that anyway or the medication is preventing a bigger prolonged meltdown of some sort.

    Reading that back sounds incoherent. Oh fuck it. ;)
  • Ror 18 Sep 2019 22:15:56 20,086 posts
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    You could always go and see your doc and try something else, Addy. No harm in it.

    Sertraline was the first thing I tried, and I had no idea how I was supposed to feel on it; was I supposed to feel a certain way, notice a difference one way or another? All I could say was that I didn't feel any different, so I told my GP that and he moved me over to Mirtazapine.

    I couldn't even tell you how I noticed they were doing something. Just some vague sense of... leaning back a bit from staring into the abyss..? Things just didn't feel quite so heavy any more. Hard to explain.

    But Wavey, this is why I said above, don't despair if the first thing you try doesn't do anything for you. There are options, and the next one might help you so much.

    And again, I get that it feels like a massive step. I spoke to my GP years back and he recommended I try antidepressants, and I flat out said no. It took me some time to kind of allow myself, I guess, to try. Things are just more manageable now.
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 22:47:47
    Sertraline made me floppy. So that had to go, stat
  • Deleted user 18 September 2019 22:51:28
    But seriously, I don't know how you're supposed to feel. I don't feel particularly different on the fuck ton of lithium (apart from being thirsty all the time) but I haven't had as many meltdowns as such.

    As I say until the adhd is identified and treated its all moot anyway. My brain just won't calm down, I'm edgy and agitated all the time, I struggle to concentrate all the time or zone in on something to the detriment of everything else. It's exhausting. I'm restarting my uni course this month and I'm just beyond the point of worrying whether I'll struggle at essays and the such.

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