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theleedslads 14 Nov 2007 15:18:15 450 posts
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So the Ł270 ive spent on PS2 singstar games wont be compatible with the PS3 version?!

Surely it will have the option to pop in a PS2 disc rather then download all the tracks again?

tonynibbles 14 Nov 2007 15:27:17 2,247 posts
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theleedslads wrote:
So the Ł270 ive spent on PS2 singstar games wont be compatible with the PS3 version?!

Surely it will have the option to pop in a PS2 disc rather then download all the tracks again?

Well, no - but then you can play all the PS2 singstar games on the PS3 anyway, with upscaling (even the ones that dont work, work with the ones that do via the 'disc change' option).

...which, in fairness - is probably more than you expected from when you got the first one 3 years ago...

theleedslads 14 Nov 2007 15:50:42 450 posts
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frod wrote:

theleedslads wrote:
So the Ł270 ive spent on PS2 singstar games

wtf

I know, fuckin sad eh?!

Keep buying em for parties n stuff, and before you know it, ive got 11 of em!

I know they work on PS3 as upscaled PS2 games, but surely it wouldnt have been that hard for sony to include something in the game to let you use the PS3 GUI with the ps2 discs.

tonynibbles 14 Nov 2007 17:51:23 2,247 posts
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theleedslads wrote:

I know, fuckin sad eh?!

Keep buying em for parties n stuff, and before you know it, ive got 11 of em!

I know they work on PS3 as upscaled PS2 games, but surely it wouldnt have been that hard for sony to include something in the game to let you use the PS3 GUI with the ps2 discs.

Well, aye.

But they have a business model to maintain. If they let users do that, they would literally be throwing away millions of pounds worth of revenue.

I think 99p for new tracks, and old - is good. HD video and all the new features of SingStar - I wouldn't never have even begun to expect 'backwards importing' at all.

Flying_Pig 14 Nov 2007 22:23:44 16,956 posts
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Just to clarify on the microphone front: Do we know whether they'll be blue tooth or like the old wired ones???

Tricky 14 Nov 2007 23:42:02 5,088 posts
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Flying_Pig wrote:
Just to clarify on the microphone front: Do we know whether they'll be blue tooth or like the old wired ones???

For the nth time: they're like the old ones.

JediMasterMalik 14 Nov 2007 23:51:55 11,820 posts
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frod wrote:

theleedslads wrote:

frod wrote:

theleedslads wrote:
So the Ł270 ive spent on PS2 singstar games

wtf

I know, fuckin sad eh?!

Keep buying em for parties n stuff, and before you know it, ive got 11 of em!

I know they work on PS3 as upscaled PS2 games, but surely it wouldnt have been that hard for sony to include something in the game to let you use the PS3 GUI with the ps2 discs.

let me just clarify this: you purchase singstar bollywood? Is your Hindi that good?

It's transliterated, you don't need to know hindi.

theleedslads 15 Nov 2007 09:35:25 450 posts
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Yeah! had to complete the collection

Just like wasting money!

Dougs 22 Nov 2007 10:20:27 100,414 posts
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Review is up on the front page. Solid 8/10

theleedslads 22 Nov 2007 15:18:45 450 posts
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Put all my singstars on ebay, people are paying around Ł15 each, so might as well cash em in and just buy the tracks i need on PSN store.

urban 22 Nov 2007 16:58:49 13,148 posts
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theleedslads wrote:
So the Ł270 ive spent on PS2 singstar games wont be compatible with the PS3 version?!

Surely it will have the option to pop in a PS2 disc rather then download all the tracks again?

it'll be a completely different code base i'd imagine.

tonynibbles 3 Dec 2007 16:14:31 2,247 posts
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Is anyone else wetting themselves for this!?

I'm hoping it gets delivered Thursday.

Looks like the new site has the community sign up bit open already...

theleedslads 3 Dec 2007 16:50:44 450 posts
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Sold all my PS2 singstars on ebay and got Ł205 for em all with the postage (i get postage free from work too!!!!)

Not bad!!!!!!

Kept the mics too!

Will pick this up friday

byron_hinson 3 Dec 2007 17:11:41 1,529 posts
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Ive heard that the UK version of SingStar PS3 doesn't work on the US playstation 3's - anyone had any experiences yet?

Xylia 3 Dec 2007 19:32:42 43 posts
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I'd be very interested to know that as I already preordered and paid for my copy. Worst case I'll let you know on Friday whether it works on a JP PS3, anyway...

There'd better be some Bollywood on the Singstore in the next few weeks; my PS2 is JP so I never got to play that one!

~X

tonynibbles 3 Dec 2007 19:34:22 2,247 posts
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byron_hinson wrote:
Ive heard that the UK version of SingStar PS3 doesn't work on the US playstation 3's - anyone had any experiences yet?

Where did you hear that from?
It is perhaps possible.

afaik - its the first game to use the PlayStation store API, and have in game purchasing, which would make sense for a legitimate reason for region locking.

byron_hinson 3 Dec 2007 22:00:45 1,529 posts
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cause some of the promos of it sent out haven't worked on the US PS3's.Hoping it will work but as you say, with the integrated store it may be unlikely

Moz 4 Dec 2007 00:06:41 497 posts
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Is that they're not working with US PS3's or US PSN accounts?

byron_hinson 4 Dec 2007 13:28:09 1,529 posts
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Won't work on the us ps3 or the us store

jeff_2007 5 Dec 2007 13:49:04 1 posts
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So, do the playstation 2 singstar discs work on the 40gb version of the ps3 (ie, without the backwards compatibility)?

thanks

tonynibbles wrote:

theleedslads wrote:
So the Ł270 ive spent on PS2 singstar games wont be compatible with the PS3 version?!

Surely it will have the option to pop in a PS2 disc rather then download all the tracks again?

Well, no - but then you can play all the PS2 singstar games on the PS3 anyway, with upscaling (even the ones that dont work, work with the ones that do via the 'disc change' option).

...which, in fairness - is probably more than you expected from when you got the first one 3 years ago...

Whizzo 5 Dec 2007 13:50:36 44,810 posts
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jeff_2007 wrote:
So, do the playstation 2 singstar discs work on the 40gb version of the ps3 (ie, without the backwards compatibility)?

No.

theleedslads 5 Dec 2007 14:08:36 450 posts
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Just flog em on ebay like i did.

The very least you will get is Ł12 ish for each one, mine averaged at between Ł16 - Ł19

Then use the money you get to download the decent tracks from the disc through singstar store.

You will be lucky if there is 10 decent songs on each disc anyway!

DonnieDarko333 6 Dec 2007 10:49:56 50 posts
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I never thought about it not working on US consoles.

I thought the actual game would be region-free but USA people may have trouble getting on the Singstore and buying the songs because of the servers!

Why would we be able to download the stuff from the US and UK PSN store, but not the UK/European Singstore as it's region-locked depending on what console you have?

I have a US console, but live in the UK, but only buy stuff of the European PSN store.

Thankfully my bro has a UK console, so i can play it on that if it's region-locked.

beatleben 6 Dec 2007 11:11:23 189 posts
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frod wrote:
there will probably be issues over distribution rights of the audio tracks themselves, which is a different territorial game than the videogame market.

Has anyone got hold of a copy of the final retail version of Singstar? Can anyone 100% confirm does not work on non-european PS3's?

I thought it would be locked to PSN account to cover distribution rights. In the same way iTunes works.

I was thinking of the drakes fortune demo backlash with accidental region lock.

If the blacklash is fifth of the Drakes Fortune another piece of bad PR is the last thing Sony need.

Also has anyone got a link a review or article that confirms it is region locked? Nobody has confirmed it as yet?

tonynibbles 6 Dec 2007 12:08:10 2,247 posts
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[The Drakes fortune thing was not intentional though, purely a mistake by the developers.]

I can’t think of any retail PS3 game which has been intentionally region locked... I think there was a Japanese-only game that was. Maybe.

SingStar, being the first game to use PlayStation store API in-game AND be the first game to have licensed DRM song & video downloads, I think places itself in a whole new area.
The game will automatically connect to your regions store to purchase tracks.
Does Sony Computer Entertainment Europe want people to be able to buy tracks from anywhere in the world via a European copy of the game? Maybe, they can gain extra revenue from other regions using their product.
Does Sony Computer Entertainment America want people to be able to buy tracks via the European copy of the game? Definitely not. They want you to buy their version of the game, so they get the money.
How does DRM play a part? Do record companies lock down their song downloads depending on where you are in the world? Extremely likely.

It comes as no surprise to me that this game has region locking, anyone hoping to play it on their non-EU console is really hoping very high. There are simply too many legal implications on this product – the delay of the game only highlights this.

Bottom line is: If you’re in Europe and have a non-E.U console – there is no obligation from Sony Europe to ensure that SingStar will work on your ‘foreign’ console hardware
Likewise, if you’re outside of Europe with a non-E.U console – then this game isn’t available to buy yet in your region, and for plenty of valid legal reasons.

However, it does leave a few questions:

Will SingStar work on a U.S console?
If it does, will SingStore work on a U.S console running a U.S PSN account?
Or will SingStore work on a U.S console running an E.U PSN account?
Will the SingStore work on an E.U console running a U.S PSN account?

byron_hinson 6 Dec 2007 12:10:05 1,529 posts
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beatleben wrote:

frod wrote:
there will probably be issues over distribution rights of the audio tracks themselves, which is a different territorial game than the videogame market.

Has anyone got hold of a copy of the final retail version of Singstar? Can anyone 100% confirm does not work on non-european PS3's?

I thought it would be locked to PSN account to cover distribution rights. In the same way iTunes works.

I was thinking of the drakes fortune demo backlash with accidental region lock.

If the blacklash is fifth of the Drakes Fortune another piece of bad PR is the last thing Sony need.

Also has anyone got a link a review or article that confirms it is region locked? Nobody has confirmed it as yet?

Don't think it would result in bad pr as it wouldn't be sonys fault it would be due to the record companies and the varying artists and labels that are diffrent per country. It is one of the few titles which makes me understand why it might be region protected

beatleben 6 Dec 2007 12:19:57 189 posts
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byron_hinson wrote:

beatleben wrote:

frod wrote:
there will probably be issues over distribution rights of the audio tracks themselves, which is a different territorial game than the videogame market.

Has anyone got hold of a copy of the final retail version of Singstar? Can anyone 100% confirm does not work on non-european PS3's?

I thought it would be locked to PSN account to cover distribution rights. In the same way iTunes works.

I was thinking of the drakes fortune demo backlash with accidental region lock.

If the blacklash is fifth of the Drakes Fortune another piece of bad PR is the last thing Sony need.

Also has anyone got a link a review or article that confirms it is region locked? Nobody has confirmed it as yet?

Don't think it would result in bad pr as it wouldn't be sonys fault it would be due to the record companies and the varying artists and labels that are diffrent per country. It is one of the few titles which makes me understand why it might be region protected

I understand the Drakes thing was a mistake.

The chance of a region lock is high. But so far this region lock thing on Singstar so far seems to be one person just saying it. I have not read or find via goggle any article/review that says it is region locked.

DonnieDarko333 6 Dec 2007 12:37:08 50 posts
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Well i'll hopefully get it from GAME-Online tomorrow (if they stop picking and packing it) and let you all know!

byron_hinson 7 Dec 2007 08:56:45 1,529 posts
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Any news yet if it works on a us console

tonynibbles 7 Dec 2007 09:46:10 2,247 posts
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I just got it! Horrah!

As normal, it says 'Region 2' on the back.
Smallprint states that its "licensed for sale in Europe, Middle East, Africa and Oceana only".

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