| Tom's tag-line on the 'No news updates on Monday' is: It's bank holiday, innit. Shouldn't that be: It's bank holiday, innit? |
Calling all grammer nazi's!!
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morriss 71,293 posts
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Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years agoIt's not a question. -
SuperZ 1,018 posts
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Registered 15 years agoHmm. Not if it's meant as a statement. He's not asking a question, he's using the "innit" almost like a "therefore", if you get what I mean. -
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Registered 17 years agoblizeH wrote:
Which is why I aimed that thread at grammar nazis...
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Flightrisker 18,139 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDerblington wrote:
It's not a question.
It is a question. Innit = "isn't it".
Although it just says "Bank Holiday, innit."
But yes, either way there should be a question mark.
You know morriss there are starving kids in Africa who are just as outraged as you and me! -
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Registered 17 years agoSuperZ wrote:
Hmm. Not if it's meant as a statement. He's not asking a question, he's using the "innit" almost like a "therefore", if you get what I mean.
Yeah but innit, is short for/slang for 'isn't it', which implies the receiver needs to confirm the statement. Like, "It's cold, innit?" -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoFlightrisker wrote:
That's what I thought, hence the thread.
Derblington wrote:
It's not a question.
It is a question. Innit = "isn't it".
Although it just says "Bank Holiday, innit."
But yes, either way there should be a question mark.
You know morriss there are starving kids in Africa who are just as outraged as you and me! -
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Registered 17 years agoFlightrisker wrote:
No, it's not a question.
Derblington wrote:
It's not a question.
It is a question. Innit = "isn't it".
Although it just says "Bank Holiday, innit."
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Registered 16 years agoGrammatically it should be a question mark, as 'innit' is a slang term derived from 'isn't it', itself a contraction of 'is it not?'
If he'd written 'It's Bank Holiday, is it not.' it wouldn't make sense. -
SuperZ 1,018 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe Welsh use "isn't it" at the end of a sentence as a clarification rather than a question, just has Tom has. Not sure if it makes it correct, but it's very commonly used. -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agograyson wrote:
innit doesn't imply its a quesiton, its an agreement, innit.
No.
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It's a bank holiday, innit, with or without the ? as "innit" has become a piece of meaningless verbal garnish. -
NBZ 2,425 posts
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Registered 18 years agoIt's a question. Asking for agreement. Mostly rhetorical. -
Agent_Llama 3,691 posts
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Registered 16 years agograyson wrote:
innit doesn't imply its a quesiton, its an agreement, innit.
'Innit' is a question and therefore requires a question mark.
Actually, 'It's Bank Holiday, innit.' without a question mark is all over the place grammatically. If we're going to be picky, what he actually wrote, sans contractions is:
'It is a Bank Holiday, is it not.' It needs a ? after the 'not' to make sense grammatically.
(I've spent 4 hours today marking key stage 3 English Writing SATs papers. Can you tell, innit./?)
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morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoBut innit invites a comment from the reciever. Tom 'could' have been wrong, and his adverbial invites some kind of clarification, hence it being a kind of question. -
T.G. 5,989 posts
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Registered 15 years ago"Isn't it" doesn't have to be a question, it can also be a way of seeking agreement with the other person. For example, "T.G. is great, isn't he!" .gif)
It's all in the tone of voice.
@Otto: +1 You beat me to it...
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morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoIn fact his sentence is: Bank Holdiday, innit.
Well, the answer could be no. I simply can't read it as anything else but a question. Although I 'get' what others are saying.
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Registered 16 years agomorriss wrote:
But innit invites a comment from the reciever. Tom 'could' have been wrong, and his adverbial invites some kind of clarification, hence it being a kind of question.
Precisely. If I said to Morriss 'it's raining, innit?' I have asked him a question and expect a response. 'It's raining, innit.' does not make sense - you can't end a statement with 'is it not.' or 'isn't it.' -
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Registered 17 years agocubbymoore wrote:
If you're not a grammar nazi, you're not welcome, I'm afraid.
GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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Used like this 'innit' it isn't a question at all!
Grayson is correct. -
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Registered 16 years agoT.G. wrote:
"Isn't it" doesn't have to be a question, it can also be a way of seeking agreement with the other person. For example, "T.G. is great, isn't he!" It's all in the tone of voice.
@Otto: +1 You beat me to it...
Edited by T.G. at 19:49:48 28-05-2007
'TG is great, isn't he!' is incorrect, it should be 'TG is great, isn't he?' If you were writing it as simply an exclaimed statement, then 'TG is great!' would be correct. -
Flightrisker 18,139 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe word "innit" has lost all meaning.... -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoT.G. wrote:
If you're seeking agreement, then you're asking for some kind of response. If your sentence requires a response it ceases to be a statement and becomes a question.
"Isn't it" doesn't have to be a question, it can also be a way of seeking agreement with the other person. For example, "T.G. is great, isn't he!" It's all in the tone of voice.
@Otto: +1 You beat me to it...
Edited by T.G. at 19:49:48 28-05-2007
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Registered 17 years agocthulhu_steev wrote:
Used like this 'innit' it isn't a question at all!
Grayson is correct.
Of course it's a question, albeit a rhetorical one, thus not requiring any response. -
Errol wrote:
Innit!
cubbymoore wrote:
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T.G. wrote: "Isn't it" doesn't have to be a question, it can also be a way of seeking agreement with the other person. For example, "T.G. is great, isn't he!"
It's all in the tone of voice.
@Otto: +1 You beat me to it...morriss wrote: If you're seeking agreement, then you're asking for some kind of response. If you sentence requires a response it ceases to be a statement and become a question.
False.
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It's all in the tone of voice.
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