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Derblington 28 May 2007 20:58:34 35,161 posts
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Gremmi wrote:

Stickman wrote:

silentbob wrote:
So, in conclusion, everyone won .. except T.G?

Innit.

That needs a question mark.

lol BECAUSE IT DOESN'T!

Derblington 28 May 2007 20:59:08 35,161 posts
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Deleted user 28 May 2007 20:59:08

Gremmi wrote:

cthulhu_steev wrote:
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is: Jasper Fforde = GOD.

I've met him. He's batshit insane. In a good way.

Edited by Gremmi at 20:57:04 28-05-2007

He appears to be a really decent guy, it seems like he goes well out of his way for his fans. And he is the best kind of insane.

But Jilly Cooper sells shitloads more books - lé sigh.

Deleted user 28 May 2007 20:59:45

urizen wrote:
What was the original argument? Something to do with rennet?

God! Why don't you just eat a cow's hoof, or something?!

Deleted user 28 May 2007 21:01:11

cthulhu_steev wrote:

Gremmi wrote:

cthulhu_steev wrote:
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is: Jasper Fforde = GOD.

I've met him. He's batshit insane. In a good way.

Edited by Gremmi at 20:57:04 28-05-2007

He appears to be a really decent guy, it seems like he goes well out of his way for his fans. And he is the best kind of insane.

But Jilly Cooper sells shitloads more books - lé sigh.

He also has a really great site.

i lol'ed

Deleted user 28 May 2007 21:02:11

cthulhu_steev wrote:

urizen wrote:
What was the original argument? Something to do with rennet?

God! Why don't you just eat a cow's hoof, or something?!

I'd rather eat cows' hooves!

Deleted user 28 May 2007 21:07:21

urizen wrote:

cthulhu_steev wrote:

urizen wrote:
What was the original argument? Something to do with rennet?

God! Why don't you just eat a cow's hoof, or something?!

I'd rather eat the cows' hoover!

Hey! Lay off the wife's equipment, yeah?

Deleted user 28 May 2007 21:22:59

Well, I for one declare victory to the morrisses.

Deleted user 28 May 2007 21:24:01

Fuck that Halo shit.

morriss 30 May 2007 14:37:49 71,293 posts
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hehe. Did I really do that?

/checks

GLOL.

Popzeus 30 May 2007 14:46:49 8,425 posts
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I was at a wedding on Sunday. The waitress came up to the table and asked: "Is anyone vegetarian?"

To which the answer is obviously yes, as vetetarianism itself isn't in doubt. Clearly many people are vegetarians. What she should have asked is whether anyone at our table was vegetarian.

I pointed this out, and got called a pedant.

Grrr.

Related point: yes, innit SHOULD have a question mark after it. Obvious, innit?

FWB 30 May 2007 14:48:40 56,369 posts
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It is a tag question so requires a question mark. Argue at your peril.

Edited by FWB at 14:49:58 30-05-2007

Stickman 30 May 2007 14:50:28 29,986 posts
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Popzeus wrote:
I pointed this out, and got called a pedant.

I think that was fair.

Deleted user 30 May 2007 14:52:49

FWB wrote:
It is a tag question so requires a question mark. Argue at your peril.

Edited by FWB at 14:49:58 30-05-2007

It can be yes, but isn't always. When used as a tag question it should have the question mark, when simply used as am affirmation type thing, it shoudn't.

Flightrisker 30 May 2007 14:54:06 18,139 posts
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grayson wrote:
I'd have called you something else ending in 'ant'

Jermaine Pennant?

Stickman 30 May 2007 14:55:14 29,986 posts
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It isn't a tag question in this case. It's used for emphasis.

Deleted user 30 May 2007 14:56:08

Stickman wrote:
It isn't a tag question in this case. It's used for emphasis.

Yup.

FWB 30 May 2007 14:56:17 56,369 posts
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Nope. "Affirmation type thing"? Grammatically speaking it is tag question. Full stop.

Edited by FWB at 14:57:00 30-05-2007

Popzeus 30 May 2007 14:56:49 8,425 posts
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grayson wrote:
I'd have called you something else ending in 'ant'

But you'd also argue that you don't need a question mark after innit, so your opinion doesn't count.

catterz 30 May 2007 14:57:00 8,763 posts
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Your face is mash up, innit.

Your face is mash up, innit?

...works either way I think, just a rising sound at the end with a question.

...well not even really a rising sound as less of a falling sound than when using a full stop.

Edited by catterz at 14:58:03 30-05-2007

Stickman 30 May 2007 14:57:02 29,986 posts
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Oh, well now you've put a full stop on it, I guess that's that!

FWB 30 May 2007 14:58:42 56,369 posts
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Not to blow my own trumpet, but I have been teaching this for the last 4 years. Sorry.

Deleted user 30 May 2007 14:58:55

FWB wrote:
Nope. "Affirmation type thing"? Grammatically speaking it is tag question. Full stop.

Edited by FWB at 14:57:00 30-05-2007

No it isn't. Read the section on emphasis in the article you quoted, that clearly does not apply here.

Bascially, tag questions, are questions. The usage here is not a question in any form.

Edited by kalel at 14:59:40 30-05-2007

FWB 30 May 2007 15:00:36 56,369 posts
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Sigh. No wonder the language is going down hill.

Well, as we always say... native speakers don't make mistakes so call it what you want. Just thought you wanted a grammar nazis rule.

JayeM 30 May 2007 15:01:58 3,384 posts
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I'm gonna go take a shower, innit.

Stickman 30 May 2007 15:02:48 29,986 posts
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I have been teaching this for the last 4 years.

Sigh. No wonder the language is going down hill.

You said it.

FWB 30 May 2007 15:03:25 56,369 posts
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Arhh the digs start now. Nice one.

Deleted user 30 May 2007 15:05:30

kalel wrote:

FWB wrote:
Nope. "Affirmation type thing"? Grammatically speaking it is tag question. Full stop.

Edited by FWB at 14:57:00 30-05-2007

No it isn't. Read the section on emphasis in the article you quoted, that clearly does not apply here.

Bascially, tag questions, are questions. The usage here is not a question in any form.

Edited by kalel at 14:59:40 30-05-2007

Actually, tag questions / question tags is the umbrella term for two main types:

a) real questions, with rising intonation, where the speaker seeks an answer.

b) confirmation tags, with falling intonation, where the speaker just wants agreement and isn't looking for information.

The "question mark" issue is the grey area - tags are primarily and originally a feature of spoken English; no wonder there's little clarity or agreement on how to represent them in writing.

The logical outcome is to use question marks for a) not b) - which I think is what you originally said.

Edited by urizen at 15:07:08 30-05-2007

FWB 30 May 2007 15:05:49 56,369 posts
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Merci. At least someone is.

And yeah... to be REALLY pedantic "innit" is incorrect English.

9 fucking pages of this shit?

My livelihood depends on it .

Edited by FWB at 15:07:47 30-05-2007

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