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Calling all grammer nazi's!! • Page 2
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Flightrisker 18,139 posts
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morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoT.G. wrote:
T.G. wrote: "Isn't it" doesn't have to be a question, it can also be a way of seeking agreement with the other person. For example, "T.G. is great, isn't he!"
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It's all in the tone of voice.
@Otto: +1 You beat me to it...morriss wrote: If you're seeking agreement, then you're asking for some kind of response. If you sentence requires a response it ceases to be a statement and become a question.
False.
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Unfortunately "innit" seems to get used indiscriminately by kids nowadays (at least in central London), regardless of whether they're actually asking a question. For example, "I went to my mum's innit" which makes no sense at all, but I actually heard on a bus. -
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Registered 17 years agograyson wrote:
Agent_Llama wrote:
Precisely. If I said to Morriss 'it's raining, innit?' I have asked him a question and expect a response. 'It's raining, innit.' does not make sense - you can't end a statement with 'is it not.' or 'isn't it.'
Thats a wrong use of the term though. If someone said to me "How come youre not gonna play footy?" I'd say "cause its raining innit"
Its not a question
So if that person said, "but it isn't raining any more." Or yes, I suppose you're right, then your 'innit' is a question, no? -
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T.G. 5,989 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe question here is, was a question mark required. I say no because the statement was emphatic. That is, it did not ask the reader whether or not it was a Bank Holiday. It stated that it was a bank holiday, and then for emphasis added "isn't it", and so it is not a question.
For example, if I say "You're some smart arse, aren't you Morris!" it is clear that I am not asking Morriss. I am simply using the structure of a rhetorical question to place emphasis.
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'innit' is the written form of the connected rapid colloquial speech'isn't it'. This is a tag question which are typically a feature of spoken English.
A tag question is either a real question or seeks agreement - the only way to tell is through intonation (a tag that's a real question rises, a tag that seeks confirmation falls).
So in written form, there's no way of telling except for the context.
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Registered 17 years ago"We need to decide what to do about that now innit." (don't we?)
"Now I can start calling you that, INNIT!" (can't I?)
"I can see where my REAL friends are, elsewhere innit!!" (aren't they?)
"I'll show young Miss Hanna round to all the shops, innit." (won't I?)
"I heard he was good in TNA when he was there so he can still wrestle good innit?" (can't he?)"
Taken from here.
morriss is right 'again', innit.
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Registered 17 years agograyson wrote:
Look up 3 posts. I think I've cracked it, innit?
morriss wrote:
So if that person said, "but it isn't raining any more." Or yes, I suppose you're right, then your 'innit' is a question, no?
my head hurts
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Registered 17 years agoGremmi wrote:
/bows
flawless victory for morrisses
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Snuffb0t wrote:
cthulhu_steev wrote:
Used like this 'innit' it isn't a question at all!
Grayson is correct.
Of course it's a question, albeit a rhetorical one, thus not requiring any response.
But not when it's used like it was!
GAH!
It's said more as a, uhm... filler word for people who aren't very literate. People who say "yer get me" and "you know what I'm saying" after every other word.
It isn't used as a question, rhetorical or otherwise. -
Khab 6,583 posts
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Registered 20 years agoKhab says: IT NEED QUESTION MARK! -
T.G. 5,989 posts
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Registered 15 years agoMorriss is still wrong IMO. 
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"nazis" has a capital letter, morriss. -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoOpinions are opinion. Grammar however, is a lethal, brutal mistress of a science and I've nearly tamed her. -
Also you missed out the apostrophe since you were using Nazi in the plural sense. -
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Registered 17 years agodeathgibbon wrote:
"nazis" has a capital letter, morriss.
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Registered 17 years agocubbymoore wrote:
Nope.
Also you missed out the apostrophe since you were using Nazi in the plural sense. -
Agent_Llama 3,691 posts
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Registered 16 years agocthulhu_steev wrote:
It's said more as a, uhm... filler word for people who aren't very literate. People who say "yer get me" and "you know what I'm saying" after every other word.
It isn't used as a question, rhetorical or otherwise.
Again, this depends on the intonation in which it is spoken. If the emphasis is on 'you' or 'know', it becomes a statement. If the emphasis is on 'saying', it becomes a question. Something like that - try it out in your head. -
cubbymoore wrote:
Also you missed out the apostrophe since you were using Nazi in the plural sense.
No apostrophe in the plural of Nazis. -
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Registered 16 years agocubbymoore wrote:
Also you missed out the apostrophe since you were using Nazi in the plural sense.
Apostrophes imply possession or a contraction, NOT a plural. -
morriss wrote:
cubbymoore wrote:
Nope.
Also you missed out the apostrophe since you were using Nazi in the plural sense.
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Registered 15 years agoI think that Morriss is happy to accept that he is right regardless of the fact that he is plain wrong!!! Well done Morriss. ;P -
morriss wrote:
Opinions are opinion. Grammar however, is a lethal, brutal mistress of a science and I've nearly tamed her.
How many times did you check that sentence before you clicked 'send'?
There's nothing scarier than replying in a spelling/grammar Nazi thread. -
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cthulhu_steev wrote:
Snuffb0t wrote:
cthulhu_steev wrote:
Used like this 'innit' it isn't a question at all!
Grayson is correct.
Of course it's a question, albeit a rhetorical one, thus not requiring any response.
But not when it's used like it was!
GAH!
It's said more as a, uhm... filler word for people who aren't very literate. People who say "yer get me" and "you know what I'm saying" after every other word.
It isn't used as a question, rhetorical or otherwise.
Yes, it's a filler, a verbal reflex...as for whether it's a sign of the illiterate, well, that's open to debate, innit. -
Gremmi wrote:
cubbymoore wrote:
Also you missed out the apostrophe since you were using Nazi in the plural sense.
No apostrophe in the plural of Nazis.
No apostrophe in any bloody plural!
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It's all in the tone of voice.
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